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Is my SGFC too small? * 1
    #27013960 - 10/31/20 02:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)



Above is the 20 qt container I will be using to fruit 5 half pint BRF Cakes. Is this too small?? I think it will be okay since it’s only 5 cakes.

If this 20 qt will work, how many inches of perlite should go in do you think?

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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: MushroomNewbie2]
    #27014114 - 10/31/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

pf tek God fanaticus  uses 10 gallon (40 quart) for 12 half pints, so at 5 cakes to 20 quarts, you're perfectly within his recommendation.


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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: EdGeinsHeart]
    #27014225 - 10/31/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

4-5 inches of perlite

For 5 cakes lots of room

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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: Dw3] * 1
    #27014351 - 10/31/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

That should be plenty big.. you can really cram them in there.. if anything, it helps being close together.. less environment to maintain.  I did 8 in a similar size



I use to put 24 (double stacked) in a 54qt bin



Or you can just use what you have on hand 2gallon ziplocks and glad container

 

If anything, you should be worried about it being too big, but I think 5 would work well

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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: fahtster]
    #27014422 - 10/31/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

great post Faht!

Yes, that container is plenty big OP. I have the same one but I was using it for a Humidity Chamber (i didnt like the coir smell thou). Its a great container and would be perfect for a SGFC.


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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: EdGeinsHeart]
    #27014468 - 10/31/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I’m glad I’m perfect :smile:
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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: Dw3]
    #27014472 - 10/31/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Glad everything is all good. Thanks for the perlite recommendation!
I’m looking forward to continuing my shroom journey.
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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: fahtster]
    #27014508 - 10/31/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I’m glad you think everything will be alright. And clearly based on your cultivation pics, you know what you’re doing :smile:

I’m curious as to what the black is underneath your cakes? I’m planning on little foil circles.

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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #27014509 - 10/31/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I’m making my perfect SGFC as we speak then :smile:

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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: MushroomNewbie2]
    #27014619 - 10/31/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I used upside down lids filled with wet verm that the cakes sit on.  Foil works too.  I like to sandwich my cakes between wet verm on the top and bottom to help keep them hydrated.. I water the tips if they need it.. those are all PE varieties and take longer to pin so the option to add water later in the fruiting cycle helps a lot

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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: fahtster]
    #27014999 - 11/01/20 01:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Do you recommend that wet verm instead of tin foil on the bottom?
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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: MushroomNewbie2]
    #27015196 - 11/01/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Wet verm goes on the foil, cake goes on the Verm, more verm on top of the cake.  It’s called a DEC or double ended casing... I use an upside down jar lid instead of foil.. that just because I had extra lids lying around.  That’s one way to do it. 

Or you can just dunk the cake for 24 hours in water and when you take the cake out of the dunk water, rinse it and roll the wet cake around in dry verm so that it sticks to the outside of the cake and set it on foil in the fruiting chamber... that’s called the dunk and roll. 

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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: fahtster]
    #27015430 - 11/01/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

That’s great to know :smile:
Since this is my first grow, I’m debating on doing two in a double end casing and 3 dunk and rolled. I love to experiment but I also want a decent first grow. It seems like you’re getting some good flushes! And yes it has to do with genetics as well, but it also has to do with that knowledge of growing.
Thanks for the info!
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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: MushroomNewbie2]
    #27015576 - 11/01/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I’d say go ahead and do it both ways.. see which one you like more.  Also forget to mention that you can also dunk the ones for 24 hours that you double end case.  I make the DEC really thick because I didn’t dunk those cakes.. I Watered the casing til dripping when I birthed the cakes and then again on the 3rd day.. it does the same as the dunk but slower and in an oxygen rich environment.. it takes a bit of knowing what you’re doing so I’d suggest just doing a dunk and then adding a 1/4-1/2” DEC that’s saturated (for those 2 that you’re doing a DEC with).. that should be plenty to of water to get you to a solid first flush with non-PE varieties.

I should also say my cakes’ cultures are clones so your results may vary from mine.  With multispore, there’s lots of competition between substrains, which can Lead to diminished flushes (not always, there’s plenty of high yielding MS grows)... just keep you expectations realistic.. especially for your first grow. 

Cloning reduces competition between cultures and makes results pretty reliable between substrates.. you should look into cloning for when you get fruits.  Like everything in this hobby, there’s multiple ways to go about it (agar, brf paste, cloning straight to grain—which is what I do).

Check out Pasty plates. Good luck!

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Re: Is my SGFC too small? [Re: fahtster]
    #27015604 - 11/01/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for your tips on casing! I’ll definitely try double end casing and regular dunk and rolling.
And also thank you for giving me some insight into cloning! I’m looking forward to experimenting with that.
I’ll have realistic expectations for my first grow :smile:
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