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Mescaline is not mushrooms
    #27008575 - 10/28/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This might be obvious to most but I have only come to this realisation recently.  I had an invalid assumption that the three classic psychedelics are all similar.

A mate and I have spent some time communicating with the cactus.  First psychedelic for him.  I wasn't quite sure what he expected but I was fairly sure the experience would be more introspective than it was.

I have done a bunch of reading and had a couple of experiences and I think you don't get the same life revelations with mescaline that you do with mushrooms.

As the internet says, mushrooms tell you things about yourself, mescaline tells you things about the world.  Mescaline is also a more pleasurable and less visual experience than mushrooms.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: SpacedX]
    #27008636 - 10/28/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

They all have their unique signature.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #27008666 - 10/28/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Mescaline has generally less depth than mushrooms or LSD. I think it's harder to have a full blown freak out. You can stay relatively level-headed and even communicate clearly.

I had a great time once talking with three friends for many hours on mescaline. It was like a stimulant, it was like being on a low dose of MDMA but way better. We mixed some mushrooms with it because the cactus was underwhelming, and the result was awesome - it still had the character of the mescaline experience, but more intense and with more visuals. I'd highly recommend the combo in low doses. Keep the mushroom dose low to retain the mescaline character. There is a synergy between the two. I'm sure it would work great with half a hit of acid in place of the mushrooms, too.

I find LSD and mushrooms to be very different, but even then, they have more in common with each other than mescaline does with either of them. It is a different class of psychedelic, it often gets lumped in with mushrooms and LSD but only because those three were the first well-known and studied psychedelics.

The closest thing I've experienced to mescaline was 2c-b.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: drr]
    #27008775 - 10/28/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It's all very interesting.  It almost feels like cheating without the nervous anticipation of being taken to a place you might not want to go.

A lot dose of mescaline is great, I would describe it as a brain accelerant rather than a trip.  Your brain works well but is going faster than normal.  Colors look brighter.

I chickened out a little and didn't take the full dose (full does was 800mg of extract) but it wasn't a ego death experience like I had hoped.

While there are similarities mescaline does not have the liquid love feeling that MDMA does.  Nothing beats that feeling.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: SpacedX] * 1
    #27009135 - 10/28/20 07:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I found that mescaline was a very expansive experience, whereas with mushrooms it was much more inward & personal processing.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: rustygrape] * 1
    #27009190 - 10/28/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

What kind of extract are you working with?  Crystalline extract?  800mg of crystalline extract is a pretty dang high dose of mescaline.  Yeah I've found that with mescaline I definitely got nice CEV and light OEV, but when combined with like 100-150ug of LSD and like 300mg mescaline you get the ultimate experience.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27009216 - 10/28/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It was the 69ron tek using vinegar as the acid.  The unknown factor is how much of what I scraped up was mescaline acetate and how much is just vegetable fat.

I measured out 800mg as I figured that couldn't be over the max and is probably well under 800mg.  I had tried 200mg a couple of times and that was pleasant but not psychedelic.

When it came to the moment I wussed out a little and took one cap out (best guess was 200mg) because as you say, 800mg is a lot.

I don't have access to LSD sadly so can't try that combo.  I do have access to LSA which is worth trying at some stage.

As some point I am going to try some raw cactus juice (freeze cactus, collect what comes out when defrosting) and see what the difference is.  It's a different experience for sure and I don't just mean the puking part.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: SpacedX] * 1
    #27009298 - 10/28/20 09:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yes indeed, Mescaline is quite different than the shroom experience for a number of reasons. The first main reason is Mescaline is a Phenethylamine compound while Psilocybin/Psilocin (found in Mushrooms) is a Tryptamine compound. Pretty different chemical structures and thus different effects.

Mescaline is a lot longer lasting with trips lasting up to 24 hours in high doses! With shrooms, the trip is typically about 5-6 hours and 7-8 with larger doses (excluding any redosing).

As others have mentioned, the Mescaline trip is more "outward" as in connecting with Nature, the Expansiveness and Beauty of the Natural World, where you wanna go outside and explore while with Shrooms there is that aspect to it but its more about the inward introspection Journey thru the mind and the subconscious. In general terms of course.

I find Mescaline feels more closer to LSD than Shrooms in terms of trip comparisons. :lsd:


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #27009510 - 10/29/20 12:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Has anyone taken mescaline at a music festival?  Reccomended?  I have two coming up, one is a muddy paddock rave which I am thinking might be a bit short for mescaline.  The other is a 24 hour music festival which sounds ideal for it.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: SpacedX] * 1
    #27009668 - 10/29/20 05:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I have actually, a lower-common dose at the Oregon Eclipse Festival. Its a perfect psychedelic for festivals in my experience.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #27010358 - 10/29/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, mescaline at a music festival is great. Especially at a stoner-rock festival where 90% of the people are either competly stoned, or high on acid, or both.
So many good vibes floating around it's incredible.

And YES to the mesc + LSD combo. :laugh:

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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: Pandemoon] * 1
    #27010469 - 10/29/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yep def taken mesc @ a festival, very fun time indeed. Not 2 hectic with visuals, and not 2 much body load, just that nice resemblance of mdma. Just a great high to ride them bass waves :prettyflyforawhiteguy:


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: Blazer420]
    #27011187 - 10/29/20 09:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I am def hoping to be the bloke in red.

While I agree with you boys it's not quite the liquid love experience that mdma is.  Having said that it feels much more natural and healthy.  I am thinking md for the first one and mescaline for the 24 hour one.

If I had some LSD to up the visuals I would def go for it.  I can buy HBWR seeds off the net so that's worth exploring.

There is no covid in my country so we can do this sort of thing.  Looking forward to it.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: SpacedX] * 1
    #27011188 - 10/29/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Re base waves:  I am getting into CloZee at the moment.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: SpacedX]
    #27012630 - 10/30/20 06:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Has anyone taken mescaline at a music festival?  Reccomended?  I have two coming up, one is a muddy paddock rave which I am thinking might be a bit short for mescaline.  The other is a 24 hour music festival which sounds ideal for it.



Yeah I did. I'd recommend to prepare it properly, you don't wanna be walking around with stomach cramps :lol:


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #27013157 - 10/31/20 12:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Mescaline is greater than mushrooms in my opinion.  I really like the longer duration of mescaline.  I also find that at high enough doses mescaline becomes very visual, surpassing the OEV's of Cubensis mushrooms.

It all depends on the cactus you're using and how big the dose is.  The big doses always make me feel nauseous, especially with Bridgesii.  Thats the real downside to mescaline.  To trip hard on it you're going to puke or at least feel like puking at some point during the trip.  If you feel fantastic the whole time then it wasnt that big of a dose.  Those lower dose trips are nice too.  But there's more if you go deeper.  It can be just as introspective and psychedelic as ANY of the other substances.  And it grows easily as a beautiful plant in the garden that will outlive us all.  Hard to beat that.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: Grey Fox]
    #27013215 - 10/31/20 02:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I like mushrooms, and appreciate what they have done for me in my life. The older I get though, the less I enjoy them overall. I tend to get somewhat weak and tired feeling, and just curl up and forget that I have a body and go inward while listening to music...very dreamlike. They used to be much more energetic for me, but not anymore for some reason. They definitely have their place and I will continue to use them from time to time.

I used to love LSD, but these days it makes me feel kind of confused and psychotic. I don't know why. It used to be my favorite. Maybe I over used it or something. I have a very hard time communicating while on it. I actually had to make a rule that I won't take it at parties anymore, because I meet people I want to talk to but can't properly for whatever reason. I rarely use it or want to anymore. Maybe once or twice a year, and that's it. I might get to a place where I am done with it altogether someday.

Mescaline is what I always wanted acid to be. Clear headed with MDMA like feelings and communication abilities. It can be very visual at higher doses in a deeper way than LSD for me. I feel connected, but able to have insightful introspective moments too. I actually prefer the full spectrum extract or tea to pure hcl or sulfate version. The purified version gives me leg cramps sometimes like 2cb does, and something feels like its missing compared to full spectrum or just tea. 2cb is close to mescaline, but pretty different too. Cactus is also easier to grow than mushrooms, which is nice. Every cactus has a slightly different and unique experience  in my opinion. I'm a big fan of most bridgesii personally as well.

I know that's all subjective because everyone's brain chemistry and mind state is different. If I could only pick one of the three, it would be cactus hands down. The only downside is slight nausea and a little bit of a hangover...for me anyways, and neither are very bad. YMMV, but that's how they compare for me.


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    #27013227 - 10/31/20 02:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah there is something about the mental clarity of a San Pedro trip that makes it special.  On the one hand its a powerful psychedelic, but on the other hand it is almost like a nootropic, producung incredible clarity of thought and openess.  San Pedro has revealed more to me about the inner workings of my mind than anything else.


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Re: Mescaline is not mushrooms [Re: SpacedX]
    #27013611 - 10/31/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

SpacedX said:
If I had some LSD to up the visuals I would def go for it.  I can buy HBWR seeds off the net so that's worth exploring.





I just want to chime in and say this is not worth exploring and the thought of combining this makes me shudder. Vasoconstriction on this is bad on its own. Better invest in high quality drugs.


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