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physical healing on LSD trip
    #27011080 - 10/29/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I want to share my story in connection with energy, healing, and psychedelics.

Five years ago, I got genital herpes from this chick.
As a person who does not follow the mainstream, I started looking for a real cure cause Let's face it.

I'm not going to accept the "medical establishment" position that I'm stuck with sores on my penis forever.

We can do so many amazing advanced things, but we can't kill a simple virus? Yea right.

A week after being tested positive, I flew to India to clear my head and game plan a strategy to heal.
About a month into the trip, I took my motorcycle and ride to a cool mountain area in south India, which is known for psychedelics.
I got some excellent LSD and started tripping every week or two in the forest for a few months.

Around two months into the infection, I had four outbreaks; I was drinking my urine, using oregano oil, and looking for information on killing this thing, one day, I met this hot girl. She told me she never tripped and She would like to, so I told her to come by my place at 9:00 am, and we will trip in the forest, and so she did.

About 3 hours into the trip, I started feeling a massive breakout, and my penis was burning bad; I'm tripping balls in the forest with a hot chick while this is happening, talk about blue balls.

After that day, I didn't have any more outbreaks. Still, obviously, I was paranoid about it; five months later, I flew back to the USA and got tested; results came back negative; since then, I did three tests, and all came back negative. Almost five years now. I didn't have any outbreaks, and the results are still negative.

Only recently, I started to realize what happened there entirely.

I came across a device called parasite zapper. It's basically a frequency transmitter you connect to your hands and feet and choose a frequency that kills a specific organism. If this device is legit or not, I don't know, but I do know that LSD frequency at the right moment killed genital herpes. Apparently, when the virus dies, it comes out of the body in the same spot it entered and created a massive healing breakout.

So it is possible in theory, which makes sense as we are energy, and if a certain amount of voltage can kill us, why wouldn't it kill a smaller creature with lower voltage? The healing power of the psychedelic experience is much more than only "mind change. And it can heal us on a physical level.

Since then, I did 4 grams after 24-hour fasting in a dark room and asked the mushroom to help me fix my back as I'm hunching forever, and the mushroom actually gave me a message and moved my body for 2 hours with stretches I didn't even know are possible. Since that trip, my posture improved drastically. It's not perfect, but at least I can stand straight if I try.

This is connecting to paul Stamets story about how mushroom cured his Stuttering speech.

The key to healing in the trip is to set a clear intention on what you want and need along with the right set and settings.

If the psychedelic experience can kill viruses? Fix Stuttering speech and fix bad posture; what else can it do? And does it do it? Or the power is within us the entire time, and we only realize our potential during the experience?

I want to end this with a personal recommendation to every truth-seeker who wants to shape his/her reality without psychedelics; you should read the book reality creator by Tom Deliso. It's a practical guide with step by step methods to be in the driver seat in this simulation we call life.

Much love and bless your journey.


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: vinny_vega] * 2
    #27014848 - 10/31/20 10:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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vinny_vega said:
I was drinking my urine, using oregano oil, and looking for information on killing this thing, one day, I met this hot girl.



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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Rhizomorph] * 1
    #27017788 - 11/02/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

hey!
thanks for sharing your story!
this might help answer your question

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_vibrationalmedicine.htm


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Rhizomorph] * 1
    #27017926 - 11/02/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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vinny_vega said:
I was drinking my urine, using oregano oil, and looking for information on killing this thing, one day, I met this hot girl.



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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: nooneman]
    #27034622 - 11/12/20 06:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I crushed some nerves or vertebrae or disc's in my back one day doing squats in the gym.

It was so bad I could taste the taste of tangerines in my mouth for days after, like I was leaking spinal fluid or something.

Two trips later, I was healed.

I broke my finger, two trips later I was healed.

Every time I get sick, one trip will usually knock 85% of it out.

I don't know what or how they work, but I believe they are a blessing.


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: cube talk]
    #27043634 - 11/17/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

yes, indeed very very interesting experience, thank you for sharing it with us.


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: vinny_vega]
    #27046930 - 11/19/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So my grandmother got into microdosing lsd... It has turned out to be very beneficial to her. She had major swelling in her legs that has totally disappeared. She had extreme depression and says she feels the best she has felt in 20 years. I have seen benefits for myself such as mood improvement..productivity.. a newfound wonder for life, and so many other things. This is amazing stuff and excited to see what it can do for not only psychological ailments but for physical ones, too.


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: MrToon]
    #27047332 - 11/19/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

this is such great news!!!!
what did the doc say ??

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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Visionary77]
    #27066096 - 12/01/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'm going to be real with you: psychedelics cannot cure your herpes. You seem conspiratorial so I know nothing j say will convince you that drinking your own urine is a terrible idea. Conduct your own research instead of watching nutjobs on YouTube who drink their own piss and you will come to the same conclusion.


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Corundum]
    #27066419 - 12/01/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'm pretty sure OP is a troll...

Either way telling people like this to conduct their own research for many is interpreted as the same as "go on YouTube and watch people talk about how drinking their piss cures herpes"

We should be telling people to conduct their research using peer-reviewed academic literature that is taken from primary sources, or at the very least well-established secondary sources (since primary sources can sometimes have barriers to access).

There is a well-established system to verify the legitimacy of science nowadays; to not use this system is absurd and yet so many people and the media constantly overlook it.

I like your ferret. :super:


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Corundum]
    #27085009 - 12/12/20 04:05 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

hey man,
i think y'all should stop making fun of him or his story or trying to discredit him, before you do a well informed research! The idea of drinking my own urine digusts me as well as the most of people :thumbdown:,
but imagine you have a real life threatening situation and your own pee may be of help?

He's talking about being in India at the time, trying to cure his infection, well India's Ayurvedic medicine which is almost 5k years old and often times better than our Western Medicine.
Amaroli is the term used in Ayurevda for urotherapy.

The Western Medicine System is a wonderful and much needed tool for emergency medicine and acute symptoms but when it comes to lifestyle aka chronic illnesses and symptoms, then the medicine based on chemicals will simply not work good enough to get rid of the source problems.

I simply do not believe he is a troll who just wants some attention. I'm thinking, that the combination of all the used methods to heal helped in a way, with that electric device which he used on his feet and hands being the main one which killed the virus, IMO.
here are some links backing up my idea.

https://www.amazon.com/Uropathy-Most-Powerful-Holistic-Therapy/dp/1929831005/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=uropathy&qid=1607768163&sr=8-1

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/esp_salud06b.htm

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326949593_Urine_therapy_in_Ayurveda_Ancient_insights_to_modern_discoveries_for_cancer_regression


https://news.psu.edu/story/187690/2002/12/11/ultrasound-potentially-safe-effective-way-kill-bacteria
http://www.rifeenergymedicine.com/dnaantivirus.html
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20100113983A1/en

blessings 2 each n every one
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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Visionary77] * 1
    #27086515 - 12/12/20 11:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Just because you can cite literature that claims to be and appears scientific at first glance does not mean it is scientific. The Journal of Ayurveda and integrative medicine has an impact factor of 1.41 currently which doesn't exactly put it in great standing. Besides that the article appears to base its findings off a very small sample size (very prone to error) and the effect sizes are small at best - placebo has larger effect sizes. They don't even discuss what inferential statistics they used meaning, even despite the probable error in the reported effect sizes, it is impossible to generalize to other populations.

The TEDx video is... well its TEDx. Virtually anyone can do a TEDx since they're independently run (separate from TED which actually fact checks their information). Moreover, just looking into the speaker's background you find lots of ties to conspiracy theories which is questionable at least.

I won't cover the rest of the sources you mentioned given that half of them have 0 scientific basis and the other half just fundamentally look absolutely non-scientific in structure (webpage layout, journal credibility, # of citations, types of articles citing them, clear conflicts of interest, poor and journal reporting standards, limited and biased referees/peer-reviewers, etc. etc.) so I won't spend time looking into their credibility in depth.

I shouldn't have to tell you that Ayurvedic medicine being 5k years old is fallacious as it simply appeals to history. Time does not make something scientific. The scientific method does. The scientific method may have been developed primarily by the western world, and thus knowledge is often developed by the western world, but by no means does this mean the scientific method is inherent to the western world. Ayurvedic medicine is free to use the scientific method it just has a long history of either failing to find anything significant in valid research beyond placebo, producing invalid research, or avoiding science altogether.

I agree that Western medicine isn't perfect (I mean how could anyone on this site given that psychedelics are criminalized?) but this does not mean we should go balls to the walls and abandon reason. If the issue has to do with lifestyle changes then sociocultural treatments are very effective and better than placebo (unlike drinking your urine :wink:) If you want a placebo try homeopathy instead. It may not have any actual effects but at least you are not exposing your body to the well-documented harms that come from consuming urine.


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Visionary77]
    #27086529 - 12/12/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4293744/?tool=pmcentrez&report=abstract

This article is peer reviewed and actually used a randomized controlled trial with actual inferential statistics.

"The Ayurvedic community is often accused of citing epistemological differences conveniently to evade the need for generating evidence to demonstrate the efficacy of Ayurvedic treatments."

By all means I'm not implying these treatments can't have some effect by the way. Things like ashwaganda have been shown to have a very small improvement on thyroid functioning, I'm just saying that there is no well-documented valid research that drinking your own urine is healthy or effective, nor is there any valid research that doesn't basically agree that there are almost always far superior medications to treat the ailments Ayurvedic medicine attempts to treat.

It certainly cannot cure STIs. At best it mildly increases things like thyroid function, digestion or semen count. Other medicines are way better for these things though and generally are more focused rather than having a variety of seemingly random effects on hormones, immune functioning, etc. I.e. they're more predictable & consistent.


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #27104126 - 12/23/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Im not either implying it is a cure, i was just saying lets just not discret him directly because he comes with an unsual way of acting. If you read well what I said, you'll see I never said that urine drinking does work. I said, that most likely that parazite zapper, or electrical device, for with I linked u a google patent may have killed the virus and also willpower in an enhanced conscious state may have something to do with his healing.

Im convinced we have more methods to heal that those the FDA/Gov, or mainstream media tells us we have.
Anyways, Im not trying anyone to convince of anything, DIOR and believe what makes sense to you.
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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Visionary77]
    #27105080 - 12/24/20 12:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I don't mean to be rude by all means - as I stated before I'm not saying atypical treatments cannot work - all I'm saying is that they still need to go through the scientific rigor that other treatments are compared with. urine, healing with electricity or parasite zappers, etc. have all undergone ages of critical thinking and their efficacy has been undermined. Alternative treatments like psychedelic therapy, third wave behavioural therapies, etc. are promising because they have not been subjected to scientific exploration prior (whether due to novelty or political agendas or whatever). I can assure you that drinking urine is a practice that has been around for ages, but once the scientific method rolled around a few centuries ago, it was shown to be no more than placebo (and toxic). bug zappers have also been around for a long time and if they were curing diseases scientists would have been on that long ago. There have definitely been scientists across many times and places in history who thought of simply using electricity on an infected area lol.

My main point is just that, yes alternative treatments can work, but we shouldn't lose our critical thinking hats for them. Critical thinking & science may have been developed by the west, but the principles behind it (namely empiricism) are not unique to any one culture - any culture wanting to prove something as definitely as humans are capable of must do so by abiding to the principle of empiricism. Urine and bug zappers have not stood up to this principle in the countless times humans have examined them in the past.

It becomes laughable when there is such an abundance of evidence readily available (by both mainstream and scientific literature) that bug zappers do not cure serious ailments nor does urine, and yet a person continues to believe this. I don't mean to be cruel but something this ridiculous just does not deserve my time of day to take seriously unfortunately. I still wish the best for everyone, but I refuse to waste my time :goodluck:

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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #27105267 - 12/24/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I shouldn't have to tell you that Ayurvedic medicine being 5k years old is fallacious as it simply appeals to history. Time does not make something scientific. The scientific method does. The scientific method may have been developed primarily by the western world, and thus knowledge is often developed by the western world, but by no means does this mean the scientific method is inherent to the western world.



The ancient greeks used to believe in stuff similar to ayurveda. Obviously they updated their medical knowledge with scientific methods. They used to believe that there are several constitutions that have to do with your "juices" like sanguinic, phlegmatic etc. This maps to similar classifications in ayurveda like vatta pitta etc.which is obviously outdated today.
We don't practice alchemy today because we have better methods, same with medicine if you ask me.
Yes there are maybe some benefits to drinking your own piss that we don't know about yet. Yes there may be Indian herbs that actually help you, but that does not make the whole ancient Indian medicine system valid.

@OP fantastic shit post you already have the pro and con people going. :grin:
I think I'd rather put some dick cream from the pharmacy on it instead of trying LSD. But if psychs healed anything in you, good for you.


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: LittleBoard]
    #27117231 - 12/30/20 10:39 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

god dammit is that what I've become? a pro and con person... fuck :tongue2::rolleyes:

Also I think Hippocrates called those fluids "humors" - although it is very far off from reality, for the time it was still quite intuitive. Along with ayurvedic medicine they both reveal basic understandings that bodily fluids are important to our health - still not worth practicing today of course :wink:


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #27147046 - 01/14/21 03:55 AM (3 years, 14 days ago)

That's amazing I definitely think it's possible and if you ask any shaman from South America and they will tell you they heal physical disease all day long it's just that the west hasn't quite caught up yet! It's crazy to me how much our thoughts and frequency effect our environment and our bodies ability to self-heal... thanks for sharing!


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #27147432 - 01/14/21 10:20 AM (3 years, 14 days ago)

I also was told I had herpes. It was in the early 80s and herpes was a big deal. However,the doctor I had siad it was a media scare. I had maybe 8 break outs and none in the past 25 yrs. It burns itself out. Also,some people get it once and that's it,others are carriers. I'm not putting doubt into what you siad,in fact I'm a huge self healing believer.  Done it once myself,the other I should be dead,but had some divine intervention. Magical shit.Resorting to drinking urine is a new one I hope to avoid. Don't trust all doctors, they live in a fantasy world. Media and government are not going to tell you about cures. So you did right. I didn't have the internet back then,but had a no BS doctor. One more thing,a girls genitals are inside so theres a good chance she didn't know. But guys,well we know,and some go at it anyway. Not the kind of person I could tolerate.  Peace


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Re: physical healing on LSD trip [Re: Visionary77]
    #27147446 - 01/14/21 10:27 AM (3 years, 14 days ago)

Thank you for sharing. I really needed to see that post. I suffer from disabling depression.  I started Spravato and learned quickly the trip is part of the healing.  Ive been microdosing B+ for several months with little luck,so I'm switching to Golden Teacher. Wish me luck


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