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OfflineDonger
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    #27007103 - 10/27/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I was wondering if you like the accord or camry better as far as handling goes? I was thinking of getting a camry because they're comfortable and real reliable but I'm finding the suspension is lousy I thought I was going to loose control because its really floaty and the steering is too light aside from that i like most everything else and the engine has some nice torque. So I'm wondering if maybe an accord has stiffer suspension maybe with more road feel. I'm talking about models in the 2011 range.

I got spoiled with my subaru legacy the suspension was perfect, firm but comfortable with good road feel so I wanted something remanicent of that


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Re: car choice question [Re: Donger]
    #27007108 - 10/27/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I have a legacy for the same reason. I hate loose steering. Tight control is what I prefer.


Not sure on the accord though.


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Re: car choice question [Re: Donger]
    #27007109 - 10/27/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I do think an Accord would handle better yes

And dude I'm liking those new Accords



They have an Audi A7-ish look to them a little bit


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Re: car choice question [Re: Donger]
    #27007113 - 10/27/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Haven't drove either one, but I recently had to change my struts/control arms/tie rods/sway bar end links and a 10 year old car might need the same kind of work done.  This might be why you think one feels "floaty" or "loose".    I'd consider the mileage and maintenance and cost when making the decision between the two.  Toyota has a better reputation, the accord might be more DIY repair friendly.


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Re: car choice question [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #27007119 - 10/27/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

That's a good point.id just stick with subaru they're my favorite there's just something about them but the two I had didn't last as long as I wanted so I have to try something else. Yeah the new accords are nice they have the turbo too so theyre kind of quick


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Re: car choice question [Re: Donger] * 1
    #27007345 - 10/27/20 10:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Buying the Camry will immediately degrade your driving abilities and you will become a nuisance ov the roadways. See https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Toyotadope for an outlining ov the disease that is Toyota ownership. Go with the accord or stick with the subarus if you do'nt mind a diet ov head gaskets, catalytic converters and rust, not to mention all the vaping supplies that subaru owners steam through with abandon.


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Re: car choice question [Re: lavod]
    #27007448 - 10/28/20 12:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Toyotas and Hondas have very resilient engines. Meaning if you are bone dry on oil, it will probably still run surprisingly well. One time my old Corolla was bone dry on transmission oil. I took it to my mechanic for some work and he discovered it was bone dry. His whole crew was surprised the car hadn't stalled completely. Another time I was bone dry on engine oil, still ran and everything. I don't do that anymore. I check my oils now. I also got the leaks fixed altogether.

That Toyota you tested might need a replacement somewhere in the wheel, tire or steering department. You'd be surprised how one small replacement makes the steering nearly perfect. I thought I needed an alignment but all I needed was a new tire and the steering went straight again even with my hands off the wheel.

For driveability, you should probably go with the Honda because Hondas are made more for the driver where as Toyotas are made more for economics. People who really like to drive and go fast get a Honda where people who just want a simple car that does everything they need gets a Toyota. They are both good cars though.

I heard somewhere that accords get broken into a lot more than a lot of other cars so be careful with that.


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Re: car choice question [Re: Donger]
    #27008623 - 10/28/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Get a buick lacrosse, you're welcome!


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Re: car choice question [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #27008653 - 10/28/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Subaru are cheaper for a reason. They're disposable. Expect 100k miles then tons of issues. Thin, soft paint that scratches like none other.

They drive pretty nice before you beat up the suspension though, for sure

I don't think you can go wrong with Toyota or Honda

My personal preference is Toyota


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Re: car choice question [Re: drr]
    #27009025 - 10/28/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Toyotas are easier to repair because they share a lot of parts with other car manufacturers.Toyota's last a long time. 200,000 mi is basically breaking the car in and then it will last much longer than that as long as you take care of it.


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Re: car choice question [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27009065 - 10/28/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Accord. Those things go forever with basic maintenance.


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Re: car choice question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #27009085 - 10/28/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds good I'm leaning towards the accord because it sounds like they handle better and my OCD needs responsiveness in a car. I do have a soft spot for camrys though maybe it's toyota in general but they have that tractor feel to them


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Re: car choice question [Re: Donger]
    #27009110 - 10/28/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'll admit, Toyotas sort of have a fragile feel to them like they were made with the cheapest parts that will still hold up well. Not cheap in a bad way but just you can sort of tell that some of the things are just cheaply made in the interior. One like you mentioned the steering wheel handling. I've had to replace my door handle a couple times. The outer door handles are broken also so I have to open it in a weird way but I sort of like that because it's sort of a security feature because nobody knows how to open the doors except me and my mechanic.


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Re: car choice question [Re: Donger]
    #27009116 - 10/28/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Toyota’s are basically appliances. I currently own one with 190k on it. It’s been very reliable. It’s also probably the least sexy vehicle I have ever owned. It’s fucking pathetic in its own utilitarian greatness.

My Saab 9-5 broke 300k, I still have it but I’m probably sending it off the yard soon. It was not always an easy car to maintain but it was a fucking great car in many ways. Very fast for a four door saloon, extremely comfortable, and looked great doing it.

If you want something that handles well buy a German car. Even cheap VW’s handle great (I’ve owned 6). Don’t expect the same reliability though. Even BMW’s are pretty shit maintenance wise.

My current long distance driver is a VW Sportwagen TDI. It’s basically an Audi but was cheaper. Great driving car but its constantly got nagging issues. 47mpg and 300 ft/lb of torque is pretty sweet though, especially for $12k.

I get a $800 a month stipend for a work car so I go through cars quickly. I have put 60k on a car in a single year. So when a car starts having issues some times I have to just move on.


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Re: car choice question [Re: christopera]
    #27009152 - 10/28/20 08:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Toyota’s are basically appliances. I currently own one with 190k on it. It’s been very reliable. It’s also probably the least sexy vehicle I have ever owned. It’s fucking pathetic in its own utilitarian greatness.








poetically said :lol:


I used to have a Camry. I can attest.

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Re: car choice question [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #27009206 - 10/28/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I like Toyota because they make great trucks.

Million-mile pickups, their successor the tacoma, the classic land cruiser... and the current 4-runner is undoubtedly the best looking SUV on the market, and also probably the toughest and most reliable.




Honda just made that goofy Ridgeline which was basically like a minivan with a bed.

For trucks, definitely toyota. Passenger car? Whatever you prefer


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Re: car choice question [Re: drr]
    #27009242 - 10/28/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

If you're concerned about handling then why are you looking at a Camry or Accord?


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Re: car choice question [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #27009396 - 10/28/20 10:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

hey what do you guys think of A Lexus is 250? I don't want to make a new thread because I'm not actually in the market yet but next year I probably want to buy a new used car. I'm a little sick of Toyota because they don't really get up and go real fast but I still want something super reliable.

How is the Lexus IS 250 in terms of repairs and maintenance and reliability? my mechanic and his crew told me A Lexus is a really great car very reliable. It's basically a Toyota but nicer. I was thinking maybe a 10 year old used Lexus IS 250? I test drove an IS250 about 12 years ago it was an old friend's car. It was really fun. If it's not a good car then I'll probably just get another Toyota.


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Re: car choice question [Re: Donger]
    #27009447 - 10/28/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I don't care what kind of thing you're getting from a tiller, to a lawn mower, to a motorcycle, to a car( and lots of others) HONDA is a very reliable brand of motor/make if basic maintenance is kept up with.


I had a 1990's something accord a long time ago with 275,000 miles on it I bought for like $500 and drove that sucker till like 320,000( only basic upkeep) and then sold it for $300 and the other guy drove it for a while before scrapping it for $200.. haha!


I hear it over and over that HONDA is a well made engine. But nothing can replace BASIC CARE MAINTENCE .



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Re: car choice question [Re: Fiery]
    #27009475 - 10/28/20 11:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I had a 1990's something accord a long time ago with 275,000 miles on it I bought for like $500 and drove that sucker till like 320,000( only basic upkeep) and then sold it for $300 and the other guy drove it for a while before scrapping it for $200.. haha!



Same here. Loved Accords ever since.

Although I have a Honda Legend now for the extra luxury.


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Re: car choice question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #27009492 - 10/28/20 11:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

True that... My neighbor is selling a mid 1970's honda's motorcycle with 3k miles on it for $2 grand... I've been wanting to get into riding for a while, but I might not for safety reasons... but I mean from a collectors standpoint that would be a nice toy to have...

The problem is I'm not rich, and 2 grand would cut into my emergency fund.. and I don't NEED IT...

but.... it's a Honda 1970's bike with 3k miles( I can't say the make and model or year to protect his privacy), but....
That's about as win win as it gets.:biker:

You ride bikes right? It's easy to learn, ehh?


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Re: car choice question [Re: Fiery]
    #27010422 - 10/29/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Why can't you say what model it is??

I do ride bikes. I fucking love riding bikes. It's pretty much my favourite thing to do and getting my licence to ride them is one of the best things I've ever done.

Not easy to learn, no. One never stops learning when it comes to riding.


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Re: car choice question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #27010445 - 10/29/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ah that's pretty cool. I'm just worried about the other drivers... Most bikers seem to be the best drivers on the road, it's the other idiots that you probably have to look out for!



It's a pretty big investment because I'd have to buy my license/class.... safety gear/helmet, etc...

But I won't be meeting with the guy till next week to discuss the deets.


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Re: car choice question [Re: Fiery]
    #27010708 - 10/29/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I reckon a Honda would be just fine for ya...  But...  My very 1st car was a 1990 Camry.  Wasn't a Whole lot great about it, sold it at around 300,000 k miles though.  Boy howdy that thing would Keep on chugging with very little if Any problems / maint. issues from what I can remember. (Approx. 20yrs ago. Lol )


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Re: car choice question [Re: Fiery]
    #27010805 - 10/29/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Ah that's pretty cool. I'm just worried about the other drivers... Most bikers seem to be the best drivers on the road, it's the other idiots that you probably have to look out for!



Spending time on a motorbike absolutely makes you a far, far better driver. It teaches a skillset that one would just not learn only driving a car, so yes, I'm with you there.

As for the investment; yes, the initial outlay is a lot, especially if you stump up for quality safety equipment. Again, well worth it, because it's kind of invariable that you'll have an off at some point if you ride for long enough. I've had three in a dozen years of riding and didn't have quality gear for the first and broke my foot pretty badly. After that, it was full leathers and quality boots/gloves/helmet and I only ever had bruises since.

Being a biker is a labour of love and passion though. Do it!!



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Re: car choice question [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27011017 - 10/29/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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hey what do you guys think of A Lexus is 250? I don't want to make a new thread because I'm not actually in the market yet but next year I probably want to buy a new used car. I'm a little sick of Toyota because they don't really get up and go real fast but I still want something super reliable.

How is the Lexus IS 250 in terms of repairs and maintenance and reliability? my mechanic and his crew told me A Lexus is a really great car very reliable. It's basically a Toyota but nicer. I was thinking maybe a 10 year old used Lexus IS 250? I test drove an IS250 about 12 years ago it was an old friend's car. It was really fun. If it's not a good car then I'll probably just get another Toyota.




From what I know lexus and the is250 is all around a good choice and will treat you well. I would just have the car checked out before buying to make sure it was taken care of and it will treat you well. I test drove one as well and was impressed. I was supposed to get one originally but the seller never came through


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