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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: Xlea321]
    #2711827 - 05/21/04 05:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So then, you can't show where it's been proven he lied.

That's what I thought.


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2711958 - 05/21/04 05:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You mean apart from no WMD actually being there?


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #2711961 - 05/21/04 05:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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The_Red_Crayon said:
Vietnam didnt start seeing a abundance of casualties intill about 1966 through 71. Iraq already has more deaths than the first 3 years of vietnam.




This is a pretty stupid statement. The first time US ground combat troops met with NVA resistance was in late '65. Up in untill that point only US crewed helis and american air raids were being executed. I mean hell the guld of tonkin resolution was passed in late '64.

Now where is this story being told i would like to know.


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: Xlea321]
    #2711963 - 05/21/04 05:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Alex123 said:
You mean apart from no WMD actually being there?



So then, you can't show where it's been proven he lied.

That's what I thought.


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2711969 - 05/21/04 05:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Apart from no WMD actually being there..

If someone says something is there, and it isn't, what do you call that?


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: Xlea321]
    #2711987 - 05/21/04 06:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Alex123 said:
Apart from no WMD actually being there..

If someone says something is there, and it isn't, what do you call that?



Depends. Could be a lie, could be they were wrong.

If you tell someone you have a ten dollar bill (believing it to be true) when you really have a five and three ones, is it a lie? Nope. You were just wrong. If you knew you had a five and three ones, then it's a lie. Why it's necessary to explain the difference to someone who claims to be an adult who thinks, is a mystery to me.

When it's been proven he lied, get back to me.


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2712037 - 05/21/04 06:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Could be a lie, could be they were wrong.

If you want to believe they were totally innocent and simply "wrong" in pushing the WMD story then go ahead. Generally once someone is past kindergarten they have more grasp on the nature of politicians.

When it's been proven he lied, get back to me.

Hi, I'm back. The WMD still arn't there.


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: Xlea321]
    #2712062 - 05/21/04 06:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

If you want to believe they were totally innocent and simply "wrong" in pushing the WMD story then go ahead.



Show me where I claimed Bush is telling the truth. I haven't. I don't know and am too honest to make claims one way or another.

Quote:

Generally once someone is past kindergarten they have more grasp on the nature of politicians.



And you'd know this how?


Quote:

Hi, I'm back. The WMD still arn't there.



And I see neither is your proof that Bush lied.


Here, repeat after me.....

I

have

no

proof

but

I

believe

Bush

lied.

You can do it if you try. And then you'd be accurate. And honest. Well.... at least honest on this subject.

Come on, give it a try.

You can do it. One word at a time. Come on Alpo, form the words.... sound them out. You'll feel better.

Come on..... work those jaw bones.... it's not so difficult.


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2712076 - 05/21/04 06:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

THE

WMD

ARE

NOT

THERE


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: Xlea321]
    #2712102 - 05/21/04 06:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Show

where

that

has

been

proven.


Oh, wait.... you can't.


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2712106 - 05/21/04 06:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

They arn't there. What more proof are you seeking exactly?


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: Xlea321]
    #2712116 - 05/21/04 06:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
They arn't there.



Prove it.

While you're at it, prove Bush lied.


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2712130 - 05/21/04 06:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

At some point reasonable men have to draw conclusions based on the evidence before them. There is no evidence WMD exist in Iraq.

prove Bush lied.

Did his administration tell the UN that Iraq's WMD were a threat or not? Have any WMD been found?


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: Xlea321]
    #2712138 - 05/21/04 06:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So.... as I thought. You can't prove he lied.


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2712151 - 05/21/04 06:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You mean apart from the fact that the WMD arn't there? What more proof are you looking for?


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: Xlea321]
    #2712166 - 05/21/04 06:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So then, you can't prove it.

That's what I thought.


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2712174 - 05/21/04 06:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So then, you can't prove it.

They arn't there. What more proof are you looking for?


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: Xlea321]
    #2712182 - 05/21/04 06:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Prove they aren't there

Prove Bush lied.


Look, I can do this all day. You have no proof of either claim.

Admit it's your belief or not. Fact is, until you can show proof, a belief is all it is.


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2712190 - 05/21/04 06:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The WMD arn't there. Why not just tell us what more proof you need instead of repeating yourself all day?

Admit it's your belief or not

It's only my "belief" there are no WMD in Iraq? Are you serious?


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Re: Iraq isn't another Vietnam [Re: Xlea321]
    #2712197 - 05/21/04 06:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Why not just tell us what more proof you need instead of repeating yourself all day?



As I am not making a claim as to whether they exist or not, I need provide no proof. You however are making such a cliam. Show the proof.


Quote:

It's only a "belief" there are no WMD in Iraq? Are you serious?



Yup. Until such time as proof exists.


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