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Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy?
    #27004382 - 10/26/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Been having massive contamination issues. Four different genetics on display here all from a2g using wedges from clean plates. Figured I would give it another go in a gnat free environment. Spawn jars looked healthy and happy. No bacteria at all.

Coir is Beatspeat, something I'm suspect of since I only used EE before. I also neglected boiling water when making it because I seen a few TCs just use warm now. Who knows.






The bright white gives me the heebie jeebies but I see some of the bright white is also growing on the ends of some aeriel mycelium.

Tubs are Pastydials, FAE was introduced 48 hours ago and one tub has a pin already. Didn't wait for full colonization
The contamination rate of tubs and shoeboxes is really getting to me at the moment and I'm fuckin out to lunch that I can grow mushrooms with a broken jar of oats shoved into a half of can of paint but my monotubs/shoeboxes are getting moldy. I did have a huge gnat problem which seems to have been rectified more or less with ACV bowls, gnat strips, fly strips, BTI and peppermint oil. Thanks all.


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: starbones]
    #27004411 - 10/26/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Looks good to me. I was having spawning bacteria, then I started venting my PC for 30 mins before putting the weight on and boom clean spawn! I think BOD has a write up about it, just search โ€œventing PCโ€


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: Mr_enforcer1]
    #27004425 - 10/26/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

They look ok to me but the flash is throwing it off a bit. You introduced FAE 48 hours ago - are you sealing the holes in the tubs up to that point?


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: pureshrooming]
    #27004492 - 10/26/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27004167#27004167

Please dont make multiple threads/posts about the same thing. Its redundant as f.

They look good tho.


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: pureshrooming]
    #27004512 - 10/26/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Without flash.



Knotting mycelium?

Also.

That is a seriously early pin for me. This tub was spawned less than a week ago. Supposed to be PE6 but doesn't look like my past PE6 pins so who knows. Cute tho


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: mushboy]
    #27004514 - 10/26/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27004167#27004167

Please dont make multiple threads/posts about the same thing. Its redundant as f.

They look good tho.




Got spooked after the folks telling me it was no es bueno and I figured not everybody reads the cultivation pic thread and I didn't want to shit it up with contamination questions. Didn't mean any harm just wanted to double check after the responses telling me it wasn't looking good.


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: starbones]
    #27004542 - 10/26/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yah closer inspection I'm downgrading my 'good' assessment to 'ok but dont be surprised if it tams out' assessment.

Dont overmist tho. Soaking that surface will matt those structures out. They are not knots. Knots are little white dots.


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: mushboy]
    #27004574 - 10/26/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Ah fuckwhistles. Yeah it's weird and I assume at some point it's going to turn bright yellow/green. It's just weird that lots of it starts to grow on aerial mycelium that pokes through when CO2 is high.

Probably going to become this shit again which I think is Aspergillus Flavus.


Don't know how to get past it if this is what it is. The only common denominator left anymore is the coir and not using boiling water. These tubs are gnat free, spawned with stuff off clean agar. Spawned in isolation outside of the home after having one heavy duty shower with clothes fresh from the dryer. Doesn't matter what spawn I've used like I've said before. Stuff from earlier in the year on oats that was stored in the fridge same. Spawn from A2G that was then cracked infront of my hood and some spawn put to agar, clean but then the shoeboxes got it.

I know the common knowledge is coir is contam resistant but Aspergillus Flavus is the most common mold of coconut meat and from reading it's the most common airborne spore in pith processing places. Even if the brick reaches 700f during compression it could get motherfucked with spore again prior to packaging.

Watch and wait I guess. I have bags spawned with EcoEarth coir made with boiling water so here is hoping. EE is certainly a great deal cleaner than Beatspeat which I guess is saying somehting.

If the bags contam I guess it was nice knowing all of you but I'll have to throw my hat in the ring and find a new hobby. Don't know how I go from a year of nothing but net running over a hundred monotubs and now I suck shit and can't do anything right.

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Dont overmist tho. Soaking that surface will matt those structures out. They are not knots. Knots are little white dots.




Like these?

Two shoeboxes of these that were crawling with gnats. How these two are thriving and nothing else is beats me. They're a clone of a Brazilly I really liked. I fully expected them to turn green as well but they won't. Honestly baffled. Ignore the little chunks of stuff that's BTI granules left over from adding them to the dunk.


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: starbones]
    #27004821 - 10/26/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Mang that coir is so dry it turned dry coir brown.  You too legit to mist?  If you don't see a million micro droplets all over the surface you aren't doing it right.  Can I get an amen?

Coir shouldve been field capacity and pasteurized too.  RR said mycelium says no way to unpasteurized coir. 


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: Lieutenant Pan] * 1
    #27004900 - 10/26/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:justno:

I've never pasteurized coir in my life.



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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: Lieutenant Pan]
    #27004910 - 10/26/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Mang that coir is so dry it turned dry coir brown.  You too legit to mist?  If you don't see a million micro droplets all over the surface you aren't doing it right.  Can I get an amen?

Coir shouldve been field capacity and pasteurized too.  RR said mycelium says no way to unpasteurized coir. 




That's just the way this BeatsPeat shit looks. My EcoEarth goes dark as hell when moist but not this crap. Look at the picture there is microdroplets but when dealing with mold I'm misting very carefully.

The coir is field capacity and plenty of Trusted Cultivators do not pasteurize their coir. Bucket Tek is not true pasteurization. Please show me where RR stated that mycelium won't colonize unpasteurized coir? I know it will.


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: starbones]
    #27005193 - 10/26/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I can't remember if RR was talking about cubes or pan mycelium but the legend has spoken.  I don't have to prove myself to anyone.


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: Mr_enforcer1]
    #27005202 - 10/26/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Looks good to me. I was having spawning bacteria, then I started venting my PC for 30 mins before putting the weight on and boom clean spawn! I think BOD has a write up about it, just search โ€œventing PCโ€





30 min ??????????

I was doing 10.


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: Lieutenant Pan]
    #27005226 - 10/26/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I can't remember if RR was talking about cubes or pan mycelium but the legend has spoken.  I don't have to prove myself to anyone.




:joneswtf:

I'm pretty sure he never said that at all. I've been looking for his words on that and I'll quote RR as much as the next guy but RR is one of MANY legends around here now and many of those legends don't pasteurize. No you don't have to prove yourself to anyone dude and nobody asked that of you, no need for static. Relax.


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: starbones]
    #27005453 - 10/26/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The man said it.  I never came across people trying to justify what has been said before lol.


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: starbones]
    #27005455 - 10/26/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

hey starbones

sucks to have tubs turn out like this

if you are sure of the rest of your process, I would eliminate the coco as a factor and try to pasteurize it, see if that changes your outcomes

regardless of what legends or others get up to, I recommend doing what works for you locally, even if that means you gotta make an extra small step in the process to make everything work

if it still fails after past on the coir then likely the failure is not the coir at all, which may have always been the case, but you have to eliminate things in a systematic fashion before jumping to conclusions IME


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: SingularFusion]
    #27005941 - 10/27/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

New pics today, got some weirdness going on.

So the bright white to me is.. tomentose growth. I think you can see in the pictures the rhizomorphic mycelium going aerial and then turning tomentose.





Am I off base here? You can see the rhizmorphic spikes reading out of the coir and then the tomentose growth on it. Now my question is if I'm correct about this happening why is it happening across four different genetics? There is PE6, GM, B+ and Brazilian on display.

Could it all be infected with a parasitic fungus?
The only thing I've done different with these tubs is I've added BTI in a miniscule amount to my mister for gnat control but these tubs are completely gnat free.

Stumped here and getting in a funk about this. Grew wet pounds in the triple digits this summer but now things are fucky wucky.


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: starbones]
    #27005943 - 10/27/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I think it's trich but I'd wait for a pro


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: Wall.E] * 1
    #27005953 - 10/27/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Honestly it looks like a response to bacteria. Not always a death sentence but, when the sub looks like that, mold will be testing for a foothold somewhere.


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Re: Anyone want to weigh in on if these monotubs look healthy? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #27005962 - 10/27/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

That's what gets me. I've had trich and it's not looking like any of the trich I've had before. Pulled this picture from google.



My trich has always looked like such, growing in a patch and really nut hugging the substrate with a drier more solid appearance. It's hard to get my phone down to substrate level for a picture but all of this growth is coming from what looks to me like healthy mycelium underneath. It's 100% growing off of mycelium strands which makes me think it's simply just bit blobs of tomentose growth but I don't know what I've done to cause that.

Normally when I have trich it begins to sporulate quickly but this stuff is just hanging out.

Bod says new cultivators get hung up on rhizo/tomentose and that's not what I'm trying to do here. I probably am though cause I'm simple in the brain.

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Honestly it looks like a response to bacteria. Not always a death sentence but, when the sub looks like that, mold will be testing for a foothold somewhere.




Well, I mean that's entirely plausible since I added 50ml of bacillus thuringiensis israelensis I took from a quart jar I had let sit with the granules in it to my 1 liter misting bottle as a first strike against gnat larva. I was expecting to see metabolites if it was having a rough go. Other than looking weird it seems happy.

As an aside the tubs smell wonderfully mushroomy, as if I took a big sniff from a bowl full of freshly harvested fruit.


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