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Vylie
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Filteria update
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Re: Filteria update [Re: Vylie]
#27005663 - 10/27/20 03:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can you explain what kind of filter? Just one of those that stand in the corner and filter the air while they circulate it through? Honestly not sure I knew those existed. If you worked in a SAB that would make a reasonable amount of sense though. Did you turn the filter off when working in it, since thats what would be usually encouraged since it creates airflow which one doesnt want. Or just straight syringe to jar. If so, did you have SHIP (self healing injection ports) or some other kind of lid hole or did you open the jair to inoculate? Again, if its the last, the whole thing makes perfect sense to me. Dont see how it would go against shroomery consens/canon either. I do see what you mean though that if not, it does go a little bit against what one often hears here, would be very interesting in that case.
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Vylie
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Re: Filteria update [Re: Vylie]
#27005667 - 10/27/20 03:31 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Filteria update [Re: Vylie]
#27005774 - 10/27/20 06:47 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I want to honor your discovery, but for me the same shift appeared after starting to use an SAB which you also describe. I nver ahad an air filter I could attribte it to. How can you seperate those causes out?
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I have an air filter like that. It’s something I like to have but in no way do I think it’s responsible for my cultivation success. That’s more attributable to my insistence on stringent sterile tek and how picky I am about spawn. I pitch spawn in the trash that looks better than what most people swear is clean spawn. When I got really fucking picky about what I was calling clean spawn, is when my success rates shot up.
When you come in the house there are literally billions of mold spores all over your body. Every breath you exhale contain millions of bacteria and every surface in your house is literally covered with CFU’s. I’m not saying the air filter hurt or that it didn’t contribute. But you have zero control employed here and your conclusion that the filter is the reason for your success (I didn’t see any pictures of a success so I’m assuming here that it was indeed a success and not some weak flush) is nothing more than a correlation. Sleep better at night if it allows you to but if you start to have issues again, I will advise again to check the spawn.
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For Pasty/Vylie.
How do those air filter units work? Is it just a forced air through filter situation or is there UVC inside or something else?
I have my original flowhood from when I started it's 13x13 and with the high CFM of the blower I've been thinking about just running it to clean the room air for shits and giggles. Otherwise it's just a footrest. It's got a thick Camfil megalam filter and I've got a spare for it too.
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A flowhood with a proper filter would work just fine to scrub the air, probably do a far better job on a continuous cycle than a commercial air purifier. It won’t move the same volumes of air but the efficiency would be far higher.
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Good enough for me. Thanks PW
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Re: Filteria update [Re: Vylie]
#27006203 - 10/27/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah it’s all nice and peace of mind to have a filter but my main point is it’s no replacement for good procedure elsewhere. I’ve grown 1000’s of tubs in an unfinished basement so filthy you could see the penicillium growing on the joists. In all those grows I wasn’t able to blame more than maybe a handful of failures on bad environment and my overall success rate was easily in the 90% range. I was able to do that because I’m picky as hell about my spawn. So yes if your spawn is shit you might see some better mileage out of it with air filters/smaller tubs/ lower spawn ratios/etc however none of those things will solve the problem entirely. Getting picky about spawn may help more in the long run.
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Re: Filteria update [Re: Vylie] 1
#27006641 - 10/27/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Pastywhyte said: Yeah it’s all nice and peace of mind to have a filter but my main point is it’s no replacement for good procedure elsewhere. I’ve grown 1000’s of tubs in an unfinished basement so filthy you could see the penicillium growing on the joists. In all those grows I wasn’t able to blame more than maybe a handful of failures on bad environment and my overall success rate was easily in the 90% range. I was able to do that because I’m picky as hell about my spawn. So yes if your spawn is shit you might see some better mileage out of it with air filters/smaller tubs/ lower spawn ratios/etc however none of those things will solve the problem entirely. Getting picky about spawn may help more in the long run.

People grow mushrooms in musty huts in undeveloped parts of africa after western growers go there and show them how to make the best of what they have available. As well the fact that tens of thousands of individuals from many diverse living situations all figure it out but every now and then someone has a house that they can't grow in because of contamination but isn't condemned... 
That's why no one believes the mycology equivalent of the you bought the only honda civic that can't be parallel parked
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