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Making microdose capsules with honey o2 barrier
    #27004553 - 10/26/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)


I wanted to make micro doses with multiple different doses and with protection from oxygen for longevity of potency. It's mostly a pretty standard procedure:
Grind mushrooms in handheld coffee grinder.

Put intended weight of powdered material into the long end of the capsule.

Tamp (pack) the mushroom powder tightly into the end of the capsule. I used the butt end of my dab tool.


Finally, squirt a small amount of honey into the capsule (I used a 10ml liquid medicine oral dosing syringe), covering any exposed mushroom material with a little extra in order to prevent erosion of the packed mushrooms.


After sitting for a little bit in the upright position you can see that the top layer of mushrooms has soaked up a little bit of honey. This plus the surface tension properties of honey have ensured a good seal and protection from erosion and suspension of the material.


It was a fairly time consuming procedure. I was able to process about 5 grams in an hour with a result of about 30 capsules. I didn't make enough to last a year or anything, but I will set a couple aside to assess at 6 months and 1 year for potency and quality. I don't anticipate any spoilage or loss of potency as honey basically never goes bad and I have kept mushrooms well over a year just in a ziplock with no discernable negative results.

I would love any review, advice, or information any of you can give!


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Re: Making microdose capsules with honey o2 barrier [Re: RichardCranium]
    #27004631 - 10/26/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This is incredible and really interesting.
So the honey is just for longer preservation?

I wish I could have some advice for you but I don't. Just curious to follow this thread.


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Re: Making microdose capsules with honey o2 barrier [Re: RichardCranium]
    #27004647 - 10/26/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Very smart. I usually dissuade from large capsule projects due to potency risks, but I cant poke any holes in this technique.

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Re: Making microdose capsules with honey o2 barrier [Re: Kmacmo]
    #27004763 - 10/26/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yes the honey is just to protect from oxidation. I actually had another idea to make a honey and powdered mushroom mixture. The only problem would be that a homogenized solution with a powder and a slow moving liquid would be nearly impossible to accomplish, otherwise I believe that would be the best way to preserve a powder as each granule would be encased in honey.


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Re: Making microdose capsules with honey o2 barrier [Re: The Mycologist]
    #27005156 - 10/26/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

The Mycologist said:
Very smart. I usually dissuade from large capsule projects due to potency risks, but I cant poke any holes in this technique.

:doublejointed:



Do you mean because of the excess air in a large capsule will diminish the potency?  If the capsule is completely full does this mitigate that risk?


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Re: Making microdose capsules with honey o2 barrier [Re: SideStepReality]
    #27005253 - 10/26/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yes if it is packed tightly in both ends, it shouldn't be an issue, but this is less accurate and flexible for the dosage.


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Re: Making microdose capsules with honey o2 barrier [Re: RichardCranium] * 1
    #27005553 - 10/27/20 12:01 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Excellent idea and perfect for easy dosing. Although your measures in your picture seem to be a little inconsistent. I might very well steal the concept.

As to mixing powdered mushrooms in honey, it's my usual way to microdose. It's made a lot easier if you use a double boiler. Place a glass a glass bowl into a pan of slowly simmering water and then mix the honey and mushroom material in the bowl. The heat keeps the honey liquid enough to mix easily and you can easily get a nice, homogeneous mix.

Here's my recipe if you want to give it a go:

125mls honey, 5gms powdered mushrooms and 1/2 teaspoon of citric acid.

That'll give you a 0.2g microdose per level teaspoon of finished honey. Not as convenient as your capsules but it'll last forever and you can stir it into tea. I hope it helps.


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Re: Making microdose capsules with honey o2 barrier [Re: Ignorantape]
    #27005620 - 10/27/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

There are different doses in the lineup there, .1, .2, .4, and .6. I wanted to be able to make whatever dose I wanted and not have air in the capsules oxidizing the mushrooms. I made 18 at .1-.12 and 10 at .17-.2 plus a couple bigger individual ones.

I hadn't thought about heating up the honey for mixing, that's a good idea.


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Re: Making microdose capsules with honey o2 barrier [Re: RichardCranium]
    #27006657 - 10/27/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Ah well that explains it then. I like it. Gives you a good, quick visual way to decide on your dose. Nice job.


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Re: Making microdose capsules with honey o2 barrier [Re: Ignorantape]
    #27745703 - 04/21/22 07:02 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Well it's been a year and 5 months and I finally tried the last dose that I prepared with this method.
Because of the length of time between me using these preparations, I do not have a very detailed memory of their potency, but it did not seem to have diminished much. It still gave me the energy I like to use them for at work and had the associated mood lift I was expecting. So they seem to have kept well in the little glass bottle I stored them in.
I will have to experiment a little more to prove the method but so far it seems to have accomplished the goal!


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