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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#27003406 - 10/25/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I watched the clip. That was never said before or during the interview.
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It was very clear she and Sasha said she was underaged
through this bad grammar it sounds like your trying to say that it was mentioned ahead of time that the girl was fifteen, it was not.
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she did look in her 20s but Rudy didn't dispute the age.
Her age was not an issue till Sasha came running in the room in drag screaming ‘she’s fifteen!’
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He said he didn't do anything inappropriate and was tucking his microphone or some shit which is ridiculous.
Ive seen the video, he was tucking in his shirt.
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He also said he felt proud he didn't get punkd like borats usual targets 
I’d say he didnt.
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At the least he uses his political and celebrity power tries to fuck everything he sees 50 years younger
I didn’t see him do that, but what’s the problem if he was?
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then him but he's newly divorced as of 2019 so it makes sense.
Yes, it does. Very good of you.
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His case is he didn't do anything but adjust his microphone not that he knew she was an adult and it was consensual.
Nowhere was it established ahead of time that she was a fifteen year old(which she isnt).
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It's it's just more proof that he's a piece of shit.
for what? That man is worth more than you’ll ever be(and I’m not talking monetary denominations).
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He has been proving that for a long time though
Congratulations. You’ve just insulted an American hero. You’re way too young to know who Rudy Giuliani is.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: christopera]
#27003597 - 10/25/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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christopera said: Cities will have filming permits of the film is going to attempt a profit. Lots of areas also have really strong film lobbies, my wife sat on the chair of a local film lobby board (because her boss was too lazy to do it himself). So those permitting processes tend to be pretty weak in the knees compared to any professionally operated film company.
my sister does make movies proffessionally
she says she always needs permission and there is a bunch of red tape and stuff.
idk what you are trying to say.
I’m trying to say your sister doesn’t make enough money making films to deal with the bureaucracy. I was trying to say it in a rather nice way. The system is rigged and I know that because my wife held a very powerful position on the very system that rigged it. She quit some 6 years ago because she hated it.
but my sister says she DOES have to go through beurocracy and red tape. I repeated that many times.
SHE was trying to convince ME that they weren't allowed to use the footage without permission.
you totally misunderstood what I was saying.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: lowbrow]
#27003601 - 10/25/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Everyone not blurred out signed a release.
Borat's daughter is hot I'd bang. The thing I don't like about these movies is you don't know who is in on it and just acting. I laughed a few times but this should have been about 30 min, really stretched out a few gags into a full movie. I do like the wuhan flu song lol 7/10
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: koods]
#27003610 - 10/25/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you were single, or even worse, fresh out of a marriage, would you be turning down hot consenting adults even though it was their idea just so people don't get the wrong idea?
I have done exactly that.
well good for you but you were no by means obligated to assuming thr situation is in fact just like Rudy's.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#27003633 - 10/25/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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my sister does make movies proffessionally
she says she always needs permission and there is a bunch of red tape and stuff.
idk what you are trying to say.
I’m trying to say your sister doesn’t make enough money making films to deal with the bureaucracy. I was trying to say it in a rather nice way. The system is rigged and I know that because my wife held a very powerful position on the very system that rigged it. She quit some 6 years ago because she hated it.
but my sister says she DOES have to go through beurocracy and red tape. I repeated that many times.
SHE was trying to convince ME that they weren't allowed to use the footage without permission.
you totally misunderstood what I was saying.
I know she does. What I’m saying is that it’s trivial for companies with budgets to handle it.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: christopera]
#27003654 - 10/25/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: lowbrow]
#27003661 - 10/25/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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It was very clear she and Sasha said she was underaged
through this bad grammar it sounds like your trying to say that it was mentioned ahead of time that the girl was fifteen, it was not.
If you explain what you believe is wrong with his grammar, i’ll show you what is wrong with yours.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#27003718 - 10/25/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you were single, or even worse, fresh out of a marriage, would you be turning down hot consenting adults even though it was their idea just so people don't get the wrong idea?
I have done exactly that.
well good for you but you were no by means obligated to assuming thr situation is in fact just like Rudy's.
It has nothing to do with obligation. It has to do with having enough good judgment to not put yourself into an awkward or embarrassing situation that harms your reputation.
And no, it’s nothing like Rudy’s situation but I won’t describe it because people will get the wrong idea.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: koods] 3
#27003736 - 10/25/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I watched Subsequent Moviefilm two nights ago after reading much of the hype online. I was a huge fan of the first one but this was actually quite a let down.
It was clever in its own way and did show up a few groups to be ignorant or bigoted but that didn't translate into many laughs. Those groups he targeted are already objects of ridicule for what they believe or the way they behave so it was really just picking some low hanging fruit.
My favourite scene was in the Christian parenting centre implying an incest baby was to be born. This was cleverly done, being a play on words that was set up from the previous scene but again it didn't translate into outrageous humour and I wouldn't expect a Christian fundamentalist to change their opinion on abortion or act any other way than what was shown.
I agree with viraldrome, a few good gags dragged out too far and in all I laughed maybe 4 or 5 times. As someone who is generally a left leaning centrist, I found that the movie was really just pandering to the far left side of politics and their pre-established views; the jokes were more like "look at these silly right wingers" without being objectively funny or actually challenging anything new about society or politics in America.
In regards to the Rudy Guliani scene I gotta say I agree with lowbrow on this point. I had heard all about the compromising scene from various media outlets so I was watching it rather critically. It was not made clear to him that she was 15, it was never mentioned before or during the interview until Borat came in yelling about it. If this was to be a real exposé of pedophilia wouldn't her age have been highlighted to Guliani in the preceding scenes to establish the fact beyond all doubt?
Besides that, she is very clearly openly flirting with him with words and mannerisms, she is the one who initiates physical contact by touching him on the leg and arm etc and she is also the one who invites him into the bedroom. Even with the scene edited the way it was to portray him as creepy/sleazy as possible he still wasn't really doing anything other than being led around by a pretty and flirtatious woman. He just comes of as another silly old goat  In all, it was a poorly executed attempt at a publicity stunt to generate media hype and some outrage. The after-the-fact framing of it by Sacha Baron Cohen in the media that he was worried for her safety is just that; after the fact framing.
Asante is correct in saying this movie is racist. In the same vein as how blackface is racist, to a much lesser degree this portrayal of Eastern Europeans as backwards bigots is also racist. It seems like a bunch of you are trying to argue that portraying racist stereotypes is ok when used for progressive leftist agendas. It is exactly this kind of ass-headed thinking, virtue signalling and ideological hypocrisy that is stopping real progressive social and cultural change from being taken seriously by the right wing. You don't win over people with condescension, degradation and ridicule or by browbeating them with an ideology.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: koods]
#27003747 - 10/25/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you were single, or even worse, fresh out of a marriage, would you be turning down hot consenting adults even though it was their idea just so people don't get the wrong idea?
I have done exactly that.
well good for you but you were no by means obligated to assuming thr situation is in fact just like Rudy's.
It has nothing to do with obligation. It has to do with having enough good judgment to not put yourself into an awkward or embarrassing situation that harms your reputation.
And no, it’s nothing like Rudy’s situation but I won’t describe it because people will get the wrong idea.
Oh I fully agree there. I thin the Mike pence rule would have served Rudy well.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: BANANA.MAN] 1
#27003817 - 10/25/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not one person posted the fucking rudy clip yet.
That shit was fucking weak. That hunter laptop has got the establishment pulling out all the stops.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: lowbrow]
#27003833 - 10/25/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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That shit was fucking weak. That hunter laptop has got the establishment pulling out all the stops.
You know this was filmed before a few weeks ago lol have fun fantasizing it's all a big conspiracy by the "establishment"
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#27003842 - 10/25/20 11:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I see you decided to ignore me critiqueing you on your fanciful version of the video.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: morrowasted]
#27003908 - 10/26/20 12:50 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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How many states did this movie crew visit in the middle of a pandemic? Interacting with unwitting strangers regularly? Surely they were all being tested daily. Was this essential?
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: ModularMind] 2
#27003909 - 10/26/20 12:51 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is an example of Sasha sabotaging Ron Paul.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: lowbrow]
#27003933 - 10/26/20 01:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Swing and a miss again, the reason there's no video clip of the entire bit with Guliani is because it's at least 15-20 min long and it's a brand new movie. You can't get 20 minute clips from brand new movies on YouTube that's called piracy. What you did was run to YouTube to confirm what your saying through small clips people cherry picked when I encourage anyone that's wondering to watch the damn movie before chiming in.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: Seriously_trippin] 2
#27003956 - 10/26/20 02:30 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Swing and a miss again, the reason there's no video clip of the entire bit with Guliani is because it's at least 15-20 min long and it's a brand new movie. You can't get 20 minute clips from brand new movies on YouTube that's called piracy. What you did was run to YouTube to confirm what your saying through small clips people cherry picked when I encourage anyone that's wondering to watch the damn movie before chiming in.
In my opinion lowbrow is correct. The entire bit is a weak setup which only has impact because it has been framed with all the preceding scenes of the movie, of which Guliani wasn't aware. It is also framed with Sacha Baron Cohen's after the fact commentary in the media. If you take time to watch the scene objectively it is clear that she is the initiator of the event with flirting, touching his leg, complimenting him and inviting him into the bedroom. Rudy does nothing other than lie back on the bed waiting to get lucky. He doesn't manhandle her or try to force himself upon her, he doesn't expose himself or even fondle himself inside his pants and the implications of rape or danger are simply manufactured statements added after the fact. She is also a 24 year old actress, well out of her teens, and at no point is her character's age of 15 years mentioned before Borat storms in. At worst Rudy is a horny old man trying to bang a younger woman who is of legal age.
It is exactly these kinds of cheap shots that do the left a huge disservice, inadvertently working to discredit all the legitimate reporting of real indiscretions, bigotry and corruption of senior politicians. There is no use in trying to make progressive commentary if you can't retain your integrity in the process; if you do you are a hypocrite and become what you are criticising. It really is just a stunt to generate outrage and publicity, nothing more.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#27003957 - 10/26/20 02:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Doubling down huh?
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I doubt it.
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the reason there's no video clip of the entire bit with Guliani is because it's at least 15-20 min
Bullshit.
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long and it's a brand new movie.
This has nothing to do with anything.
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You can't get 20 minute clips from brand new movies on YouTube that's called piracy.
There’s no way the Giuliani scene lasted for twenty fucking minutes.
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What you did was run to YouTube to confirm what your saying through small clips people cherry picked
That scene was edited to smear Giuliani, the only thing cherry picked was the editing tricks they used for the hit job.
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when I encourage anyone that's wondering to watch the damn movie before chiming in.
No thanks, I’d rather hear about the laptop.
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: lowbrow] 1
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Love the long title haha very funny!
I wonder if Borat really speaks Kazakh language in the two movies, does anyone know? Or is it just made-up?
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Re: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kaza... [Re: Asante]
#27003976 - 10/26/20 03:21 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Two thumbs down for Sasha Baron Cohen and his disrespectful ethnic minstrelry.
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