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Any up to date teks for extracting from Syrian Rue seeds
    #27003411 - 10/25/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I've been searching for like a week trying to find a good extraction tek. Each time I find a different one the steps are somewhat different. Like some call for salt other don't, lye or sodium carbonate, boil once vs doing 4 boils.

Too much confusion for me some help would be much appreciated.


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Re: Any up to date teks for extracting from Syrian Rue seeds [Re: Ganja420Boy]
    #27003463 - 10/25/20 07:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I basically followed this with minimal differences (it works fine for harmala seeds):
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Easy_Caapi_Vine_Alkaloid_Extraction_Guide

I did 4 boils on the seeds (without powderizing them), to get most stuff out. Water of the 4th boil was pretty pale yellow so I decided not to do a 5th one. I didn't powderize the seeds because otherwise there's way too much gunk and you'll not be able to filter it in any effective manner.

I used NaOH and 30% vinegar during the extraction steps.

I got total of 7 grams of alkaloids out of 100grams of seeds, 5 grams directly from the extraction, and 2 more grams from the leftovers from the whole extraction steps. This is the result from the main extraction :


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Re: Any up to date teks for extracting from Syrian Rue seeds [Re: Ganja420Boy]
    #27003489 - 10/25/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Boil whole seeds in water with a splash of vinegar for 20 minutes. Make sure it doesn’t go dry. Strain. Keep the liquid. Put seeds back in the pot with new water and a splash of vinegar. Repeat. Do the same a third time. Throw the seeds away. Combine the liquid from the three boils. Let it cool to room temp. Slowly add NaOH and stir until the whole thing turns milky. It will take maybe half to one teaspoon of NaOH for a cup of liquid. Be very careful with the NaOH. Use nitrile gloves and do it in a well ventilated space. Let the freebase harmalas drop to the bottom. Filter using a paper coffee filter. Keep the freebase in the filter. Now combine 3/4 cup of hot water with 1/4 of white wine vinegar, and pour that over the freebase in the filter, and collect the liquid, which now has the goodies. Wait 12 hours, run through a filter. Keep the liquid and discard the solids. Now repeat the whole thing when you add NaOH. Repeat a third time, except this time stop where you collect the freebase. Dry the freebase. The end.


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Re: Any up to date teks for extracting from Syrian Rue seeds [Re: igorcarajo]
    #27003648 - 10/25/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks, this was one of the teks I was looking at.

Would this be doable with powdered seed. I have a pretty fine piece of mesh screen that would catch the majority of plant seed matter.

I would assume the clean up stage would handle any material that slips though.


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Re: Any up to date teks for extracting from Syrian Rue seeds [Re: Ganja420Boy]
    #27004804 - 10/26/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Some people use powdered or ground seeds. I’m not 100% sure of this, but I think that with multiple boils you can get almost as much goodies out of whole seeds compared with ground. The benefit of whole seeds is much easier filtering.


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Re: Any up to date teks for extracting from Syrian Rue seeds [Re: igorcarajo]
    #27004934 - 10/26/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I tried ground ones first and it took forever to filter anything, it immediately clogs your filter and nothing goes through. Whole or merely crushed seeds are definitely way to go.


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