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Oldnameforgotten
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Some shit I think.
#27003275 - 10/25/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wonder if love is a temporary delusional state that some people stay in until they die. Like.... you dont really "love" that person. "Love" isnt what its supposed to mean. Its more like youre tricking yourself into thinking there is something special there. If for example.... you were married and that partner died you would be able to move on. Or if you had your mind erased and found a new partner then you had your memories given back.... how would you choose which partner was really a "soulmate". Also... a lot of it is just loneliness and carnal nature to breed. If not ALL of it.
I think about how little people need to try to be able to vastly outperform everyone. I work in security and recently left a fucked up job for a much easier job at a nightclub. I see this guy who comes in regularly and he has a dance move hes learned. He will start dancing and people will form a circle and let him dance then he has a "finisher" that makes everyone scream and yell as he does it. Then all the girls go try and get with him and all the guys give him high fives. I think to myself..... if 30 minutes of practice for a couple months can achieve this kind of superiority amongst peers.... how fucking low is the bar set?
I think about how... the moment youre in and the experiences youve recently had... heavily impact your perception of events that could take place in that moment. If you just saw your first death maybe a couple days later someone that doesnt know what happened to you might make a joke about death. Youd find that offensive when everyone else doesnt. Perhaps youll be more offended for the rest of your life by those jokes. The only difference is the experience you went through that has changed what your "objective" reality is. Your older self might say "how can that joke POSSIBLY be offensive?" while your newer self definitely believes it is.
I think about the way people speak with each other. Or how they communicate. Little things like handshakes amongst men. What is the point in trying to squeeze the other persons hand? Why must I squeeze back and join in your little ego contest? All I have the effort to do is listlessly blank stare and wait for them to give up trying to make me feel pain. And how about all the stupid little half high five half handshake gestures that vary from person to person? Just shake my fucking hand.
The only things I love in this world are fucking dogs. They are the only ones I can trust. I understand what they are all about. I get it. I like the simplicity. But then they fucking die.
Sorry bit of depression seeping out. I wanted to try and list the way my mind works to see if there was some fix for it. But its just not possible to list the way a fickle machine works when every day its something different.
Basically just typical nihilism bitch. I have tried for the last 10 years to be a post-nihilist finding my own meaning in a meaningless world. Its so hard. I wish I could self-delude back to my former glory as a fool. Icarus I am. Flew to close to the god damn sun now I'll never fly again.
Hope yall having a good day.
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Rahz
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I guess some kinds of love are special and made just for two. Maybe not for everyone, but there's nothing wrong with thinking that way. It's just, bonds can change. "Forever" maybe, but assumptions aren't always true. Better to let today be today.
Regarding dogs, I've seen a lot of people express that same sentiment. You guys should get together! I guess regarding humans you just try to see the good without reading too much into it. Appreciate it for what it is. Trust is an entirely different matter, though I've read that the best way to find out if someone is trustworthy is to trust them. Of course, that's how people get burnt! Hopefully we bet better at discernment and taking chances over time and perhaps get past our "trust issues" by doing so, but dogs ain't so bad. Or is it sad?
Would be nice if every good boy and girl had a few good friends.
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OutsideOfMyMind
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Re: Some shit I think. [Re: Rahz]
#27003969 - 10/26/20 03:02 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're on to something. I think being "in love" could be an illusion because what if the other person doesn't share the same feelings? Does that invalidate your feelings?
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laughingdog
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Actually your post, Oldnameforgotten, covers a lot of human behavior, so it sounds to me like maybe you're developing an interest in human psychology. If that seems the case the easiest way to check it out for free, is to listen to some of Robert Sapolsky's lectures on YouTube. This is very high quality material. Human psychology, is both complex and fascinating; so it takes some persistence and curiosity, to answer all your questions in depth. You definitely have the curiosity and also seem observant, so you may be off to a good start.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=robert+sapolsky+lectures
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nooneman


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Why all these posts about love lately? I find it highly suspicious that a bunch of posters just randomly happen to be posting all at once about the same weird crazy topic that no one else is talking about/cares about.
Sounds to me like coordinated inauthentic behavior.
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Oldnameforgotten
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Re: Some shit I think. [Re: nooneman]
#27005400 - 10/26/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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nooneman said: Why all these posts about love lately? I find it highly suspicious that a bunch of posters just randomly happen to be posting all at once about the same weird crazy topic that no one else is talking about/cares about.
Sounds to me like coordinated inauthentic behavior.
I reckon love becomes a boring topic to people who are in relationships. Perhaps we could make a guess that someone talking about love is single?
I can confirm though that I am not part of some coordinated effort. I dont have friends I have been a rando on this site for years and years now after getting embarrassed on my previous account. I prefer no one "knows" me. Just a bunch of armchair philosophers chatting it up.
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MarkostheGnostic
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There is a sound reason why nihilism along with eternalism are the two great no-nos in Buddhism. One is purely pessimistic the other is purely optimistic but both are equally delusory. If you want to focus on the meta-meaning of meaning itself, Victor Frankl's writings have been the most instructive for me. As to love, Frankl wrote:
“Love is the only way to grasp another human being in the innermost core of his personality. No one can become fully aware of the very essence of another human being unless he loves him. By his love he is enabled to see the essential traits and features in the beloved person; and even more, he sees that which is potential in him, which is not yet actualized but yet ought to be actualized. Furthermore, by his love, the loving person enables the beloved person to actualize these potentialities. By making him aware of what he can be and of what he should become, he makes these potentialities come true.” ― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning
Theology as a field gave me more insight into the different forms of love than life itself did as the young man I was before I embarked on a theological inquiry. The word love in the New Testament is Agapé. Like meaning, love in its more profound forms is a result of the pursuit of something greater than one's own desires or needs, not an object to be obtained like a commodity. Dogs are wonderful but love in a fully human context means an I-Thou relationship that our canine companions are incapable of fulfilling on human levels. This is not to diminish canines in any way and there is much we can learn from them (or from cats as I have come to learn late in life).
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hide-and-seek/201606/these-are-the-7-types-love
An extension of Agapé is the metaphysical assertion in 1 John 4:8 that says that "God is love." This is not interpersonal love but rather what Ram Dass said of love as a state of being. This universal, dispassionate form of love carries greater potential for eliciting meaning qua meaning than other forms which may satisfy certain socio-biological needs. https://books.google.com/books?id=Ske6kzQlmKcC&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=love+as+a+state+of+being,+the+only+dance+there+is&source=bl&ots=sPflz2EzVh&sig=p6XPeimyMkpRfhNItYpPcZzF_TY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JPjTU-CfF4OYyATh8YKAAQ#v=onepage&q=love%20as%20a%20state%20of%20being%2C%20the%20only%20dance%20there%20is&f=false
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sudly
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Handshakes offer insight into character imo, the demeanor the individual carries can be conveyed in how they behave and treat you, eye contact, firmness, smile etc.
Sometimes it's a pissing contest for people, there are a number of individuals who try to put others down with an alpha male mindset. In my experience there is more to talk about than boobs. Good for you if you have a woman in your life, but you're not the only one, (is the mindset I took XD)
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if 30 minutes of practice for a couple months can achieve this kind of superiority amongst peers.... how fucking low is the bar set?
That's a goddamned high bar for some people.
But it's that 30 minutes a day that turns a cashier into Jimi Hendrix.
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Re: Some shit I think. [Re: sudly]
#27032407 - 11/10/20 10:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've read that the best way to find out if someone is trustworthy is to trust them.
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nooneman


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That's how you get arrested.
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sudly
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Trusting someone is one thing, forgiving then for absolutely obliterating your trust is another.
I had it happen to me once and I chose to try and trust again, and it was hands down the biggest mistake of my life.
Trust until it's broken, and if it gets broken, and u mean evidently and plainly broken in an openly severe manor, I would leave that relationship for good, in the dust. Gone.
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Re: Some shit I think. [Re: sudly]
#27032608 - 11/11/20 12:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I tend to trust most people. But nothing in my life is particularly critical, only best mates are to be trusted with critical shit and even then you have to evaluate their capability in the area.
-------------------- Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. "Chat your fraff Chat your fraff Just chat your fraff Chat your fraff"
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sudly
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Some advice I got once was never to rely on other people, and not doing that has bit me in the ass a number of times.
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OutsideOfMyMind
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Re: Some shit I think. [Re: sudly]
#27032655 - 11/11/20 01:56 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't trust most people. When I see smiles, I see deceit. When a stranger is being nice to me it is because they want to gain my trust so they can take advantage of me.
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sudly
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If it makes a profit it's going to happen.
That often seems to be the go, but some make honest mistakes.
I think trust grows over time based on actions, but that it's based on a glass like medium and damage can have shattering results.
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Re: Some shit I think. [Re: sudly]
#27033599 - 11/11/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trust. Idk as in to place faith into someone or something. People or organizations with good websites and online platforms tend to be trustworthy in terms of business related. Personally it might be the opposite.
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nooneman


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Trust no one.
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sudly
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Re: Some shit I think. [Re: nooneman]
#27036447 - 11/13/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Beat yo meat.
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