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RW and PESA shoeboxes
#27002475 - 10/25/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Input is appreciated, please leave me a reply, comment, or whatever you think. Thank you!
I have two RustyWhyte shoeboxes with a 1:1 to 1:2 spawn sub ratio. I made two separate shoeboxes this time with only one myco quart in each beacause my last attempt I doubled the spawn and only came out with a massive blob fest that I had to get rid of.
My PESA shoebox, since it is a little bit bigger, I used both quarts I had into one shoebox.
All were spawned Friday October 23rd and are pictured 48 hours later as of this morning.
RW was a very slow colonizer for me when I put it A2G. I didn't even knock up my PESA jars until a week after my RW, and it was with an old MS syringe I had from a year ago I was messing around with no less, and it caught up and colonized in one week compared to the RW. So it doesn't surprise me that the RW is moving at a very slow rate since being spawned, which you can see down below compared to the PESA.
I have two shoeboxes of RustyWhyte, but one is only pictured since they look the same anyway.
RustyWhyte - spawned Friday October 23rd - 48 hours later. Seems to be a very slow colonizer again, I just hope it doesn't mess up somehow again or if I did something wrong myself. Compare this with the PESA after it and you'll see what I mean.

PESA - also spawned Friday October 23rd - 48 hours later. Now this is the one I put two quarts in, and it is just ripping through the coir and substrate, and has already overtaken RW. You can also see rhizomorphs also breaking the surface also.
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I put a top layer on all of them. Is that what you mean?
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RW is reliably slow for me as well. Worth the wait, but slow AF. First tub I ever grew was a 16qt 1:2 and it was like 27 days until I got pins. Was about to give up. Took a while to isolate something that finished more quickly and my best culture averages 18 days. Worth the wait though. My favorite "regular cube" to consume, hands down. I actually get my best BE with RW @ 1:3 and they definitely like that top layer.
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Then yes I did. I put a top layer on. I was getting confused because I thought casing meant some other type of mix that goes on.
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I’ve been consistently getting pins in the RW tubs I’ve been running since starting back up in about 10-14 days after spawning. Longer than that would have me questioning the health of my spawn and the vigor of the culture. Put spores to 10 plates. Make 2 transfers from the best of the best. Pitch the rest. Then make 2 or more transfers from what looks good. If nothing looks really good by the 3rd transfer I’d toss it all and start back with spores.
I find people get hung up on spore plates, like if they make enough transfers something good will emerge. Yes it can take 5 or 6 to narrow the good growth but, if you only see sluggish slow growth from the spores and T1 plates it’s doubtful that something amazing will pop up 2 more transfers down the road. If you’re on T2 and nothing stands out, start over.
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So should I leave these lids snapped and latched on until they grow and hit the lid? Or do I need to unsnap the lids beforehand? I've heard many different things that these shoeboxes still have sufficient FAE with the lids closed, etc. so will knotting and pinning still occur with the lids shut? Or do I need to unsnap the lids when the sub reaches 100% colonization?
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I’m not sure I can answer that question. Personally I put it into fruiting conditions immediately. But I just run monos, shoeboxes are weird to me. Some people do awesome with em no question, just not something I’m well versed in. Also I’d be more concerned with the headroom, are you planning on having a second shoebox go overtop? RW can get pretty tall if they get enough water.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27006696 - 10/27/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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No I don't want to dub tub it, I didn't know they get that tall. I was hoping they would grow to about average height where the lid is... I guess I will have to use a grocery bag or something...
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27008825 - 10/28/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's what I'm trying to learn also, what my boxes and substrates are telling me and how to read them. They're almost 100 percent colonized, but I haven't opened any lids yet, so I need to check for beads on the surface, but I don't want to do that and pull the lid off until it's fully done colonizing. They've lightened up a little on the condensation on the sides, but there's still a lot on the lids. The corners of all the tubs are dry, and I'm assuming that's because that's where the FAE is coming in from in the shoeboxes.
I can't tell or see any beads of moisture on the surfaces yet since I haven't popped the lids... But here are some updated pictures, 5 days since spawning. Also, it looks like my all clear shoebox with the PESA is retaining more condensation all over the sides sides compared to my shoeboxes with the grey lids.
What do you guys see or conclude so far? Any advice and input is appreciated please!!!
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PESA You can see it's a very rhizomorphic surface through the top!)
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Do I need to introduce more FAE to initiate knotting?
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Maybe. I introduce fruiting conditions the day I spawn.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27013514 - 10/31/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is it a characteristic of RW to look like random splatter when knotting?
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It’s prone to blobbing. Pics would help .
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27015321 - 11/01/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pictures below.
I think PESA is going to be the real winner and star here, it's knotting up phenomenally on the surface everywhere, and I think it is going to have a bad ass pin set if there's that many knots covering the entire surface. I have a feeling it's going to be a canopy shoebox... And this was the shoebox I was worried about that I had compressed the substrate too much...
The damn RW boxes aren't really performing how I thought it would be. Some knotting going on on the sides and a few here and there on the surface. Doesn't seem like I'll be getting a whole lot from these... Very disappointing that there's not too much happening with these with all the work and energy going into it and with my second attempt at these. My first attempt I did too high of a ratio of spawn of 2:1 and all I got was blobs. This time I decided to do the regular ratio of one myco quart in each shoebox, somewhere between 1:1 and 1:2.
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Man your spawn is still too high IMO. I’m doing like 1:3.5 or 1:4 with my RW right now. Make better use of your spawn and see better yields.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27015356 - 11/01/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well shit, that sucks... You're the first to tell me that high of a sub ratio... I was just told don't over spawn. It would be pretty hard to get a 1:4 in shoebox to fit nicely without the sub almost being to the top of the shoebox... So do these not look right to you?
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psycho_nauticus said: It would be pretty hard to get a 1:4 in shoebox to fit nicely without the sub almost being to the top of the shoebox...
What about splitting a jar between two shoeboxes?
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They look fine as far as health goes. High spawn ratios can delay pinning and increase blobs. I would look at a 1:2 to start and increase as you move into larger sub volumes. Those are knotting already, you’ll have pins soon.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27015386 - 11/01/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks Pasty. I see some knotting, but just randomly sparse only in the center. You have the TC eye, so maybe you see some knotting everywhere that I don't... but that's all I can really make out...?
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Surface conditions are dry, I’d give it a light mist. RW take their time getting set up usually but is usually worth it in the long run.
Patience is important. I waited like 3 months for my zaps to pin.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27015444 - 11/01/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I gave it a misting yesterday morning, and then early this morning also. Do you think I should do it one more time before leaving for work? I was afraid of over misting and getting too wet and matting down the mycelium.
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Pics aren’t the best but a light one might be okay. Those shoeboxes ain’t working for you if you are misting more than once every three or four days. Either dial them in or try a different approach.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27015491 - 11/01/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not sure how to do that with an unmodded shoebox tek. I snapped the lid off a bit since it had started knotting some to increase FAE and evaporation. Maybe I should snap the lid back on and leave it and forget about increasing FAE...? Usually when knots occur you would increase FAE correct?
I guess tomorrow I’ll give it a heavy misting. I was going to turn the lid upside down, but that would allow even more FAE than just unsnapping the lid like I have now.
Maybe a heavy misting then just snap the lid back on?
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Beats me, I run monos. I can’t get shoeboxes to work to my satisfaction.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Yeah those look fine to me, the rw is just super tomentose and grows in different than most other types I’ve done. Also I’ve had shoeboxes pin on day 9 and others three weeks it just depends what you’re working with genetically.
Did you try the flash picture to see beads?
If they’re drying out too fast and you don’t want to keep misting them sometimes moving them to another part of the room helps based on airflow. I’ve also put a plastic bag over the top and then snapped the lid over it when it was super hot/dry and I had to have the ac on 24/7 and everything was drying out like 5x as fast as usual.
If I’m home I don’t mind having to mist them twice a day cuz I figure more air is always better but it does get annoying especially if you have a bunch going.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: A.k.a]
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So you think I should keep misting for surface conditions everyday even when its knotting now? You don't get worried it will be over misting and matte any mycelium?
If I took a picture now yeah it would look like that because I misted this morning.
But I'm not sure if misting for surface conditions is a good thing now based on what Pasty just said...
So not sure what to do/go from here...?
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pasty, is knotting always so splotchy with RW?
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: A.k.a]
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There was a green blob looking thing on the side of both of my RW shoeboxes, I figured it couldn’t be any good if there was a spot of green showing up at the side of the tub, so I threw them out. All I have left is the PESA. Fucking pissed about the RW.
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You sure it wasn’t bruising? A picture would have been good. RW often forms blobs.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Me personally, with only several shoeboxes under my belt, haven't seen green side pin blobs before. Maybe that could of been a first for me, but side pins that I have seen come in are just like that white peach color pressed up against the tub and sub. Even with my first attempt at RW I had too high of a spawn ratio and all I got was massive blobbing everywhere all over, and didn't have something green. The fact that it was a dark green than just a bruising color also made me more worried.
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Man, I'm still so bothered about my RW not being successful!!! What other albinos are there I can try? I've already done AA+.
I've never seen so many pins and shrooms growing like my PESA shoebox. It hasn't even pulled off the sides yet and is already getting to be canopy level! Even though you constantly hear not to compress your sub, maybe that's the key...? I compressed this one somewhat and was worried that I ruined it, but there's only one side pins so far and that's it. Everything else is all surface. I think that compressing your sub is the key.
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I don’t know what to tell you, try something else. RW isn’t albino either, it’s a leucistic with rust spores. My last RW tubs would start like this

And then finish like this. 4 quarts WBS is doing alright, but I’m still gonna keep an eye out for a better clone.
I might be biased but I think RW has huge potential. Either source a different spore source if you suspect a corrupt line or, do more culture work.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
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I'm going to definitely do it again. I'm frustrated, but at the same time it motivates me more. I'm going to do it like my PESA also and compress it down. That seems to be the key that maintains perfect surface conditions and no side pinning. I don't understand why so many are against compressing the sub...?
This time I'll still use one myco quart, but then I need to use 3 to 4 times as much CVG correct? So it's 1:3 to 1:4? And the compress it down.
Sucks that I got a green blob on the side I wonder what they would've looked like now if that never happened...
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I'm going to be harvesting my first flush tonight of my PESA shoebox. Because I prepped my substrate a little more on the dry side and had compressed it, I believe it didn't have enough to support the entirety of the first flush. A lot have kind of stalled out while many more have broke their veil and starting to open their caps. I like to harvest when I have full open flat caps, it's more aesthetically pleasing to me also, so I will be letting the caps open up and flatten during the day and then harvest tonight.
I'm pretty shocked and surprised that I was able to achieve a first flush with no side pins without even using a liner! I will be dunking my sub for a couple of hours after harvesting, and was wondering is there any way to put on a liner after the first flush if I did not use one at the beginning to shrink with it? I'm sure once it is rehydrated I am thinking it is going to be side pin city.
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I’m not sure why you’re compressing the sub, that’s not going to be beneficial for cubes. Maybe a little push around the edges for side pins but cubes are not Hericium, they generally don’t like a compressed sub.
Adding a liner after the first flush isn’t going to do much. In this hobby it’s best to do things properly from the start, fixing things later rarely works out.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
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I meant like I'm compressing it down to make it level and flat. I did do that to the sides like I normally would and pack them down a little more, but that's why I was originally worried about this one, because I did it a lot more than I usually would of across the entire surface. I didn't mean it to seem like I'm compressing the sub to the point of smashing it down trying to get it as dense and hard as possible - only for flattening and leveling purposes. When I spawned I felt like maybe I had over did it, but it looks to of worked out! I'm thinking I used just the right amount. When using BOD's unmodified tek, most shoeboxes always got side pins every single time, and I asked about that in how he does that. He told me something along the lines of "you can't teach substrate depth, level, and compaction all at one time in the beginning, it needs to be learned". Anyway, it seems to of worked out while retaining perfect surface conditions; I wasn't trying to cram it into a brick or something.
However Pasty, in theory I can just line at least the very bottom of the shoebox so no pins start growing on the bottom of the tub don't you think?
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No I don’t think. It won’t stick the same and the pins will still form if conditions are good there.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Oh okay, well then I’m expecting one hell of an explosion of a second flush!!!
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said: No I don’t think. It won’t stick the same and the pins will still form if conditions are good there.
Have you already tried such a thing Pasty? Or has anyone else?
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Do I need to stick my head in a dumpster to know it stinks? I understand the principles behind how liners work in the first place well enough to know why what you’re proposing won’t work. But if you don’t believe me find out for yourself. It’s not my time or grow.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Yeah the liner gets pulled into the sub during colonization so it won’t work if it’s not done right away.
After the first flush the sub has usually pulled back enough that side pins just grow straight up the sides so they won’t even be smooshed anymore.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
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I was just asking to see what you would say about the bottom, not the whole substrate.
LOL the way you said it to me totally matches your avatar, going Tony Montana on my ass haha.
Yeah AKA, I actually don't mind that, that's fine with me, grows on the sides are more! I'm worried about the actual bottom because that happened a couple of times to me before where they literally grew at the bottom under the substrate in the grooves of the shoebox, looking like snakes slithering out. Looked weird and freaky at the same time, intimidating.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: A.k.a]
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I just don't feel like having to make more things like a fruiting chamber... I was contemplating on what I can do with the shoebox. I'm just going to dunk the whole sub for about 3 hours and put it back in the shoebox like it is.
That's why I was thinking about the idea of putting something only at the bottom because after I dunk it since it will be rehydrated and wet coming out I thought it could stick... But I'm just going to leave it be after dunking.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#27029775 - 11/09/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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First flush and no side pins at all mushboy!!!
I'm expecting the second flush to be exploding from everywhere.
I tried to clean off as many aborts as possible and leave as many pins as possible, but sometimes that's hard when harvesting. Hopefully everything works out!
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I think you'll be fine.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#27029801 - 11/09/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just harvested with a little twist and pull action, so it's kind of left some craters and divots that the block will have to cover up. I also dunked the block for 2 hours. I wonder if I'm going to have a very uneven second flush since some pins/aborts are left, and others I could not save when harvesting...
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Nice flush, seems to have done alright in the end. I swear these things do better when we don’t look at them every day.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27029874 - 11/09/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks Pasty
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I dunked it last night for 2 hours because I had prepped my CVG on the dry side. Is that enough or should it be dunked for longer?
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How long did it take your RW to show signs of colonization? did you start from a print or did you already have agar? Pasty obviously these are also directed at you, but I just took a RW print I got gifted not too long ago and scraped it into a glass bottle of water I PC'd and let that sit for a couple of days, except for a good shake every 6-8 hours or so. Then I made some syringes out of it and knocked a few bags of corn, a few jars of corn, a couple jars of wbs and a couple bags of BRFmix. it's been slow moving but so have my ksss, CRS and malabar bags & jars. Only ones really moving are my treasure coast and cambodian, the TC is MS but the cambo are from my own LC so that one makes sense. Anyways today is about a week and so far, I had to toss one BRF bag that went green, I'm hoping from something other than my RW solution being contam'd. I'm starting to see the very beginnings of myc forming on most everything else but I'm bracing for dissapointment. So longwindedly I'm asking you both, is RW a slow to start colonizer too? and does it prefer a grain? I like to think I know enough to not fuck up collecting and inoculating spore but fungus has a way of reminding me that I don't know shit and to keep my head down more often than not. I've been really excited to run the RW, I'd wanted to for a while now and I'm hopeful this is viable.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#27031823 - 11/10/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushboy, should I be be misting and spraying the surface right now to have beads on it? Or will that naturally happen over the next week or so?
And should I already be adding more FAE again? Or wait because it's too soon to start adding more FAE again?
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I’ve always found RW to be tomentose however it’s never been slow generally speaking. Most of the time it’s pretty fast for me. When working with spores things are a crapshoot, anything can happen. When I take 6 or 9 clones I run em side by side. The best one is the keeper. Then I just run that until I find something better.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27032188 - 11/10/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm just learnin to work with agar now so I'm a little behind on the isolated genetics/clones side of shit, But I'm getting there. Pressure's on when you have a single print to work from, lol. If ever you feel the need to fulfill what I'm sure is a line of 500 people before me, and then if I have something worth your time, I'd love to get a print direct from ya. OP, was your RW from a print? considering we're both having some turbulence with our individual specimen, would you be into the idea of trading swabs or something along those lines?
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Yes mine was from a print, not a swab. RW puts out spores and should be done by print, no need for a swab. Swabs are for true albinos that don't drop spores or that are clear.
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I was suggesting we both take swabs of our individual RW prints to exchange. This is a practice commonly used when one would like to share viable spore but not give up the only print available.
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#27041158 - 11/15/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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2nd flush looking sparingly, not nearly as dense, but much meatier fruits! Picked this beautiful thing since it was a little head, second harvest post pics coming tomorrow, I love the smell of the cottony mycelium base, smelled soooo good!
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Re: RW and PESA shoeboxes [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27055077 - 11/24/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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