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Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience (did) *DELETED*
    #27002206 - 10/25/20 04:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Planning to lemon deck a small amount for first experience [Re: RonsonD]
    #27002212 - 10/25/20 05:05 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Lemon decking sounds all wrong.

Its Lemon TEK !

Sounds fine, otherwise.


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: RonsonD]
    #27002565 - 10/25/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Its really tough to recommend dosing semi-dried shrooms cause its much easier to dose fresh or dried (not inbetween shrooms).

But the Lemon Tek is a great idea. I can attest, it works very well. :yesnod:


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #27003559 - 10/25/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I can't vouch for lemon Tek with liberty caps because I have only ever done cubensis but doing a lemon Tek will make your trip approximately double or even triple of the actual dosage you are doing. like for example if you were doing a lemon Tek on two grams of mushrooms it would probably feel more like anywhere between 4 to 5 dry grams depending on the genetics. and you really don't know what kind of genetics it has until you try the batch out. Some mushrooms give a more visual trip with a more clear head and less mind-fuck whereas other mushrooms give you a real powerful emotional mind fuck.

The first time I did lemon Tek was 2 grams of some really potent cubensis. I had a bad trip because I didn't know how strong it was going to be. if you could imagine having no clue whether you are awake or dead or alive or sleeping or dreaming or what where your consciousness is just everywhere. And also imagine saying to yourself oh my God I'm dead and panicking. This was several years ago. Fast forward to a few months ago where I did another lemon Tek with two grams but with shrooms that were more clear-headed and more visual and it was much more tolerable. That lemon Tek was actually one of my most beautiful psychedelic experiences ever where I experienced complete Ascension into the heavens and I felt like my entire essence was being guided and lifted by the entire spirit of the mother Gaia planet and lifting me and completely supporting me and guiding me up into the heavens.

I think you should try doing mushrooms without a lemon Tek first just to dip your feet into the water. you don't know what kind of genetics they have and if they happen to be super potent then you can be in for a very wild and possibly scary ride. it is always better to trip too lightly than to trip too hard. You can always eat more mushrooms halfway into your trip.

If you were talking about regular cubensis then I would say hell yeah go ahead and do one gram on lemon Tek because that would be similar to 2-3.5 dry grams which is very tolerable.


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27003923 - 10/26/20 01:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Well I chose 12 rather small libs from the bunch, they were half-dry. Made them into small pieces with knife (not dry enough to powder). Put them in lemon juice which had seeds removed. It was in there I think for 30ish minutes because I was doing stuff before going and was legitimately scared shitless, like I had diarrhea from the existential fear. So as with most things, I didn't do it at first. I got an intent to integrate my "parts" into a greatly harmonious and understanding integral being.

Contrary to recommendation to stay home with friends I went to very close-by park alone, which felt way "safer" than home. There the fear went away and it felt totally ok to drink it. Drank the thing, started feeling motions in body pretty much in matter of minutes. Walked around a bit, changed seats.

Started listening to Eckhart Tolle seminar on youtube and kept listening to it for what would in wordly terms constitute for bigger part of the experience.

Sat next to bond with ducks and communicated with ducks. The "up" going was actually very very smooth, it went from almost nothing to "talking" to ducks to a group of trees talking to me to talking to every single existing entity. Around "this point" I pretty much stepped out of existence and daily time and asked and heard answers to mostly all the questions I had in existence at this point. There was also some joking about my "questions and intent" that I had set before starting the thing (or rather the "non-thing").

Returning to world was by choice. In my experience I could've stayed out or in other worlds for as long as I wanted and go back and forth as many times as I chose to. So I did go back to world, back out in different layers pretty much countless times or infinitely. Eventually it became clear that this existence  is about coming back for longer than just a couple of seconds and that "we" are playing a game where we keep forgetting and re-remembering the possibility of going out.

Perhaps it's useful to say that the method for stepping out (once I had come back in) was to not pay attention to pressures of reality. Like cold, hunger, need to pee but other stuff as well. The reality was reconstructed by honoring and pushing against these pressures and if I didn't do that I was out again very easily as many times as I wanted.

I did set stopper in this world before taking the drink and it had counted up to around 6 hours when I had gone to talk to a friend and felt more than 50% re-self-entangled / re-materialized. It doesn't make any sense in bigger picture but if I had to say how long the part in the park was then in current terms it would've been around 2-4 hours. When I returned I had a lot of tears on my face but don't remember crying.

Anyways, don't worry, there's a bunch of mechanisms and a very obvious automatic mechanism that will prevent the experience of being "forever trapped " by choice (!) in this trip of reality.

End of spiritual lorem ipsum. As far as recipes go, 12 smallish semi-dry libs + 1 lemon .


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: RonsonD]
    #27003964 - 10/26/20 02:47 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I heard that the lemon tek only works if you pulverize the mushroom like a powder since the alkaloids are in the inside. Can someone else answer if this is true?


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27004057 - 10/26/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I heard that the lemon tek only works if you pulverize the mushroom like a powder since the alkaloids are in the inside. Can someone else answer if this is true?




That's not true. Personally I don't grind up my mushrooms anymore. Just break them up just a little bit with your hands and bring to a boil for a minute and then steep for 10-20 minutes. You'll get all the actives without grinding it up. Grinding them up only makes more work when filtering with coffee filters and makes more small particles that may pass through the filter and make it worse tasting.


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: Messiah of Savants]
    #27004612 - 10/26/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I heard that the lemon tek only works if you pulverize the mushroom like a powder since the alkaloids are in the inside. Can someone else answer if this is true?




That's not true. Personally I don't grind up my mushrooms anymore. Just break them up just a little bit with your hands and bring to a boil for a minute and then steep for 10-20 minutes. You'll get all the actives without grinding it up. Grinding them up only makes more work when filtering with coffee filters and makes more small particles that may pass through the filter and make it worse tasting.



I'm talking about for lemon tek, not tea.


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] * 1
    #27004678 - 10/26/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm talking about for lemon tek, not tea.




Oh, when I think of lemon tek I think of tea. I guess you're old school. :X


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: Messiah of Savants]
    #27004689 - 10/26/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Lemon tek is different than a tea. Lemon tek is pure fresh lemon juice with your shrooms soaking in it. A Mushroom tea is mushrooms simmered in water with a tea bag which may or may not have lemon juice added to it (your preference).


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: Messiah of Savants]
    #27004694 - 10/26/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I live by the lemon tek and I can confirm, pulverization is not required for lemon teking.

My preferred method is to just use some clean scissors, making small cuts, then toss into the lemon juice, letting soak 15-30 min.

Of course pulverization may speed up the process somewhat, but its not necessary in order to achieve a fantastic lemon tek experience.

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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: 1Love1]
    #27004732 - 10/26/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I know that lemon tek is originally mushrooms in lemon juice and drink basically, but I think a lot of people around here view lemon tek as tea made with lemon too.

After all my years of tripping and many experiences eating them, I don't know why anyone would ever want to eat the mushrooms. Tea is the only way to go in my book. But then again, I usually take around 14g and that's REALLY no fun to eat, no matter how you get it down. I'm sure you guys probably aren't choking down that much.


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: Messiah of Savants]
    #27004774 - 10/26/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: Vylie]
    #27004825 - 10/26/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

LemonTek and tea are identical.
Both extract the actives into the water, then you drink the water. Lemon juice is just water with citric acid, so why should it be different? .. :shrug:

There is no magical transformation from psilocybin to psilocin in lemon juice, that's a widespread mistruth.

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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: Pandemoon]
    #27005162 - 10/26/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

When I've done lemon tek (not tea) it always makes the trip more intense and it makes the trip last longer. Dry mushroom trips last about 5-6 hours for me whereas a lemon tek trip lasts a good 7 hours.

Can someone answer me if it is true that you get less body load when you drink tea? I'm not talking about lemon Tek but straight-up steeped mushroom tea.


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27005275 - 10/26/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

HI never tried it with lemon juice yet but have some in the cupboard waiting, went hunting today and got 18g wet of libs and not going to consume until Friday night, and going hunting again Friday.
What is the best way to keep them ?. Let them dry naturally, make a tea now with lemon by steeping and then freezing until fri, or dehydrating (I have an air fryer with dehydrate function, min temp 40) them. also what sort of dose for a normal trip.


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: Chedderfish7]
    #27005290 - 10/26/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

If you Don't have a dehydrator, use a box window fan. Prop it up  off the ground and put it facing up. Put a screen on top of the fan then lay the mushrooms down and turn the fan on low. Put them in a brown bag with a desiccant pouch afterwards.


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27006475 - 10/27/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Epsom salt method for drying worked great, I followed these instructions:
https://www.zamnesia.com/content/285-how-to-dry-and-store-magic-mushrooms


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Re: Planning to lemon tek a small amount for first experience [Re: RonsonD]
    #27007318 - 10/27/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

A good way to dry is to use a needle and thread to thread through the bases of all the stems and hang them upside down.  Makes nice decoration too.  Thumbtacks in opposite walls will hold the ends of the threads if you wrap the thread around.  A normal heated room should be sufficient.  Fans would hasten.


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