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Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy?
    #27002022 - 10/24/20 11:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Seriously dudes?
WTF?

Nazis using psychedelics is documented part of the history of human race.


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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 3
    #27002053 - 10/25/20 01:03 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I think you're taking it too personally, I don't think he moved it because of your post.

I think he moved it because the idea that psychedelics will change your political beliefs from conservative to liberal is a baseless conspiracy theory, which is what that thread was about.

Also psychedelics were practically unheard of in the time period of WW2. It's possible the nazis tested mescaline as a chemical weapon, but even that I somewhat doubt. Mescaline was practically unheard of at that time. The favorite drugs of the nazi army were the old classic performance enhancers: steroids and meth. Now if you want to get into conspiracy theory territory, I think it's possible that hofmann might have originally invented LSD as part of the war effort, but he was swiss, so it would have been the swiss war effort, not the nazi war effort. And that's just my own little pet theory with zero evidence anyway.


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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: nooneman]
    #27002056 - 10/25/20 01:06 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I'm pretty sure the US was the first to really try and weaponize pshycidelics. Ww2 was a meth show on both sides.


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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: GreenHorns]
    #27002062 - 10/25/20 01:15 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #27002068 - 10/25/20 01:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Well I'll be, but according to your articles, the nazis quickly abandoned it:

From your first source:
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Nazi physician Kurt Plötner forced concentration-camp prisoners to take mescaline to see whether it would serve as a ‘truth serum’ during interrogation

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the concept was quickly rejected: the nausea stopped participants trusting their interrogators.




Your second source is some crazy book that claims a lot of crazy shit about reptillians and other insane shit like that with zero proof. Seriously, here's the synopsis for that book you linked:

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Evil has been discharged hither and thither, and as a result a war is being waged between the Light and the Dark. Powerful occult reptilian bloodlines have commandeered the corporate-mass-media and the military-industrial complex, the everyman no longer a free entity. Why these torturing gifts, and wherefore lent to the people? No reason except for the desire to dominate and suppress. It is an inkling the beasts of prey within man and reptile cannot control. Secret societies are the gatekeepers to a much greater secret that encompasses extraterrestrials and cultures spanning across dimensions. The labyrinth has already been entered - next stop, a closer inspection at money and the big business of Big Brother. Are there more cards up the magicians sleeve? Only one, and that is the possibility for enlightenment




Yeah, not a reliable source. Clearly the nazis experimented with it in some capacity, you've proved that much. But damn, that book you linked is some crazy shit.


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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 1
    #27002082 - 10/25/20 01:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

conspiracy??? where!???...  :tweak: let me at em let me at em :tweak:


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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #27002092 - 10/25/20 01:51 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Just google the name of said book seller. Enough links on that.
If too much to belive I try to find you source that you consider reliable.

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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #27002188 - 10/25/20 04:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

About the history of mescalin synth.

"Mescaline was first isolated and identified in 1897 by the German chemist Arthur Heffter[8] and first synthesized in 1918 by Ernst Späth.[9]"

The Germans had it in theyr arsenal long before Hitlers rise to power.


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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #27002193 - 10/25/20 04:31 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Said Kurt Plötner was later integrated as part of Americas similar program.


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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #27002196 - 10/25/20 04:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

hitler knew what'z up


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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: zZZz]
    #27002201 - 10/25/20 04:43 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:fistbump:

You made me laugh big dawg!


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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 1
    #27002202 - 10/25/20 04:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

LeningradCowboy said:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01571-2

About nazis giving mescaline in jews as human experiment.





We all know the atrocities of Dr Mengele in Auschwitz injecting peoples eyes with dyes trying to make them blue eyed, but a lot of what the camp doctors did was commit human testing of just about any product of German pharmaceutical companies, testing all their potential medicines for side effects - mescaline included.

They got boxes of sample bottles from the pharmnaceutical companies to inject and report on.

A very fucked up part of the history of German pharmacy that the big corporations want you to forget.


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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: Asante]
    #27002301 - 10/25/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
Quote:

LeningradCowboy said:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01571-2

About nazis giving mescaline in jews as human experiment.





We all know the atrocities of Dr Mengele in Auschwitz injecting peoples eyes with dyes trying to make them blue eyed, but a lot of what the camp doctors did was commit human testing of just about any product of German pharmaceutical companies, testing all their potential medicines for side effects - mescaline included.

They got boxes of sample bottles from the pharmnaceutical companies to inject and report on.

A very fucked up part of the history of German pharmacy that the big corporations want you to forget.



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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: 28064212]
    #27002313 - 10/25/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hitler on one of his many trips sent out an expedition to find the holy grail.


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Re: Talking about dmt in pub is now conspiracy? [Re: Yokal]
    #27002316 - 10/25/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

They found it. Some chose poorly, some chose wisely, then it was lost forever.


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Re: Talking about DMT in the Pub is now conspiracy? [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 4
    #27002513 - 10/25/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Of course its not.

If you read the context of the OP, you will know why I moved it: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27000577#27000577

The OP has a screenshot of a Reddit post about how DMT can turn you "leftist". To me, this is a political-leaning conspiracy on Reddit towards DMT, trying to demonize the use of it. Also, in the OP, "Deep State" is mentioned as well as political names, thus giving the context that the "Deep State" government has a conspiracy against DMT. So in summary, both Reddit and the "Deep State" have a conspiracy against DMT.

And thats why I moved the thread.


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Re: Talking about DMT in the Pub is now conspiracy? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #27002591 - 10/25/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I just read it like can smoking dmt give you more liberal values, not as political thing.
But understand you and your decision.

But honestly most I got out of it was just humor.


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