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moamed
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Zamnesia kit - stale growing
#27001247 - 10/24/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Peace to all! I'm new in this forum and I hope to be relevant to this forum. I purchased four grow kits from Zamnesia (don't judge me), two strains of McKennaai e two of Mexican. These kit seem stale because it's from long time that they are not growing as fast as they should. Now I will descre the life of two of these kits.

This first one is McKennaai and it is arrived 30 days ago with another kit (I'm talking only about the first one, in order not to say too many things). I placed them in a 50x50x50 container in a garage. 12 hour of light. Humidity kept around 85-96% with an automated humidifier. The problem I think is the temperature. The first week the temperature was around 25-27° Celsius. Then it dropped to 23-25° for the next week (autumn was coming). At the end of the second week, there were a lot of white stuff on the top of the strain, and something was aggregating like little cotton fiocs. In the third week, the temperature was dropping to 19-22°, but I thought it would not be so low to damage the shrooms. At this point the white stuff was becoming more intense (maybe to much humidity), and one little shroom appeared (the bigger one in the photo). In the fourth week, I decided to take my two boxes on my home, in order to have a decent temperature. The boxes where placed in plastic bags given from Zamnesia in order to have the right humidity: just two sprays at day. The temperature is ranging from 19 to 22°. Now the white stuff has withdrawn and more pins have appeared. They are stale from 4 days from now without growing, just more pins have appeared without growing so much. Was I wrong in something? What should I do in order to make them happy?

The other two kits have arrived 17 days ago. I will speak about one of them, the Mexican strain (from the photo is quite different from the other one). This kit has been some days in the garage with temperatures around 20-22° (at the end of the second week). After three days I placed it in my home. In this way the temperature was about 21-23°. The four week is like I described for the kit above: all four kits were in my home. The different thing is that this two new kits are placed above an "heater". This heater just raise the temperature up to 23°. As you can see in the photo, there are a lot of pins, but they are stale from five days. Just one big pin has appeared but it seems to remain like a little ball. I think the problem is related to the dropping of the temperature, what do you think?
Any advice is welcome. Thanks!
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Sandstone
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Re: Zamnesia kit - stale growing [Re: moamed]
#27002619 - 10/25/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, I believe 19-22C is on the low side, but then again, Cubes are supposedly quite forgiving regarding the temperature range, so if it dropped for a couple of hours it shouldn't be a major? I can completely relate though because not everywhere in the world is cosy enough to just go with ''room temperature is fine''.. I think it's highly advisable to figure out some form of additional heating, if growing all year round, in certain parts, you might need it like 4-5months a year. It's not that you won't be able to produce a mycelium and even fruit in whichever way you prefer. But sometimes rooms cool to low as 17-18C evenings, mornings, nights. Especially if you want to keep the place well aired.. Because I don't think you want to be heating the whole room to 23C, 24/7, to make 2 tubs or 10 cakes cosy and optimal, unless you're not paying the bill  BUT then again, you mentioned 25-27C..which I believe is too high of a temperature. Supposedly on the very edge on inviting infection/bacterial growth/mold? I would try to keep the temp at about 23-25C, and mist, it looks dry to me. Hope someone with more experience chimes in, it's probably really clear I just don't know what exactly I'm looking at XD Cheers
Edited by Sandstone (10/25/20 12:07 PM)
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Re: Zamnesia kit - stale growing [Re: Sandstone]
#27002712 - 10/25/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just read through a thread on colonizing temps for grain jars(cubes), bodhisatta replied, saying that anywhere between 65-75 (18-23C) is good. So that's that but I still believe that maintaining somewhat of a steady temp is better than fluctuating all over the place, I'd suspect it does impact myc growth? Anyways, mist them cakes though:D
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Re: Zamnesia kit - stale growing [Re: Sandstone]
#27003951 - 10/26/20 02:10 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi, the kits are placed in this manner:

The best of the four kits is this one:

There are some shrooms, but they are 3cm tall and they are not growing anymore. Moreover, there is a white fuzz on some of them. Is it normal?
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Re: Zamnesia kit - stale growing [Re: moamed]
#27003955 - 10/26/20 02:30 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks super dry
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Re: Zamnesia kit - stale growing [Re: Rafiikii]
#27004826 - 10/26/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok I'll moist them more frequently. I hope they won't die because it has passed so much time.
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Re: Zamnesia kit - stale growing [Re: moamed]
#27021536 - 11/04/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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How's it going with this kit?
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Re: Zamnesia kit - stale growing [Re: Sandstone]
#27022297 - 11/04/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Check out the teks here, you'll get much more bang for your buck than a kit. Like orders of magnitude more bang for your buck.
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Re: Zamnesia kit - stale growing [Re: LoadedFish]
#27022464 - 11/04/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I second that. Best of luck
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Re: Zamnesia kit - stale growing [Re: Sandstone]
#27024728 - 11/06/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi guys. The first two of the four kits have given to me a decent flush. There were some aborts but in the meantime a lot of other shrooms grew up.They just took a lot of time to grow up. One other kit has become crazy (I posted another thread) and it is definitely lost. The last one is still silent and I tried to do a cold shock as the last try, but I think this other one is lost too.
I know that it is better to make my own cakes, but at the moment I do not have the time nor the right place to do them. In time I'll do things as they should be...
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