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    #27000914 - 10/24/20 07:59 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'm planning a therapeutic trip without a guide. I'll be folllowing the John Hopkins protocol of lying down with headphones and music.

What I havewn't been able to find is what dosage they use for these trips. Or rather the information I've found in publsuihed studies seems to be off. The dosages they are quoting at the highest amount was 30mg which is a size 00 capsule. This dosage seems to small to have a full on trip considering 30mg just tweaks me slightly if I microdose with that amnount.

In Michael Pollan's How to Changed Your Mind he has a full on trip and I'm assuming his dosage was much higher than 30mg.

Has anyone done a trip like this with a professional or is anyone her a guide and could you possibly advise me on dosage?

Thanks


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Re: Therapeutic trip dosage [Re: Loppy1512] * 2
    #27000939 - 10/24/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

30mg refers to actual pure psilocybin dosed, John Hopkins wasn't using actual magic mushrooms as there is too much variability and would add an unknown factor in the experiment.

Magic mushrooms tend to be between 0.5% and 2% psilocybin, but can also contain psilocin and other active alkaloids as well. But this is a highly variable, not only between species butt even between individual fruits of the same species that grow right next to each other.

As a rule a good starting dose is 1.5-2g, to get used to it. 3.5g begins to be profound for most people. 5g and more can be very intense. But of course this is all variable as well depending on an individual persons biochemistry, not all people trip the same from the same amount of shrooms.

So, yeah. It's one of those things. You have to find your own way. Invariably you will find what you're looking for though.


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Re: Therapeutic trip dosage [Re: Northerner]
    #27000988 - 10/24/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Very subjective. From a scientific standpoint point 15-30 of isolated psilocybin was considered "therapeutic".

From a psychonaught perspective anywhere from 1g to 20g(exaggeration). I find that 2g can be very therapeutic on days I just need to unwind and enjoy the little things. I also find 8g of ps caerulescens therapeutic though, in a unplug and plug it back in hard reset way. Ultimately I think its what YOU the person having the experience to decide what was therapeutic and why.


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Fellow man is either a fool or a coward
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Re: Therapeutic trip dosage [Re: Loppy1512]
    #27002109 - 10/25/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Aha that makes sense now. Thanks for the clarification folks, much appreciated. I suspected as much, having to work out your own dosage while factoring in variances in potency but forgot that the studies were using pure psilocybin...


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