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Have you ever met an angel?
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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I have not, to my knowledge
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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I don't believe i have. I have had contact with something but i have never had the notion that they expected anything of me let alone refer to them as angelic of any kind. If anything the contact i've made had lead to me believe that these labels are nonsense.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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I've never met an angel, not religious so not something I tend to have stashed away in my head. I did however take 10g of pan cyans and had damn near a DMT like breakthrough. I stood in front of an entity much like something you'd see in an Alex Grey painting. It was communicating something i don't remember now and had these fountains of rainbow neon colors surrounding it. It was magical but I havnt returned since.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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Oh god.
You realize you are the one thats coming to that conclusion? It isn't being revealed to you in any way. You saw something and then afterwards you are trying really hard to connect the dots. I'm more than willing to discuss the idea of entities but once we start getting into the realm of hard definitions and attempts to dust your hands and call it a day, i find this unfortunate. The possibilities should not be so limited to simply angels. It does the whole thing a disservice.
Edit: i just realized that this sub-forum and the other drug sub-forum are the websites drunk tank. Hey yall.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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Vylie said: I didn’t believe them either. During one of my trips, I saw two humanoid entities flying towards me. Their bodies were glowing in dark blue. They had magical runes on them.
It crossed my mind they could have been angels. I don’t know. I saw them only once.
But there was something I saw many times. I started seeing "it" months ago. I use the word "it" because I didn’t consider her an entity. I considered "it" a divine symbol of God, due to the look and the context in which they appeared.
Two days ago, I found an image that shocked me. I searched and found more.
None of the images look like my angel but the shapes and forms are close.
Now I believe angels and that at least one of them is with me.
Check out this painting and the artist Robert Venosa, these are the kind of "angels" that appear on large psychedelic trips.

I can't remember encountering an angel yet, but they seem to be prevalent on large quantinties of LSD or DMT/aya.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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Iv never seen any thing yet like an angel!! But i really love reading your guys experiences i finde them pretty darn fascinating. I feel like when im on mushrooms i feel like stepped in to a different dimension like im here but yet im some where else. Like they allow us to pick up that right frequency.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Mach z 800]
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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Have you ever met an angel?
Many times. Mostly they manifest as light, mostly.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: PrimalSoup]
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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If demons are indeed fallen angels then yes!
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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MentalPariah said: I've never met an angel, not religious so not something I tend to have stashed away in my head. I did however take 10g of pan cyans and had damn near a DMT like breakthrough. I stood in front of an entity much like something you'd see in an Alex Grey painting. It was communicating something i don't remember now and had these fountains of rainbow neon colors surrounding it. It was magical but I havnt returned since.
It turned out I’ve seen many of his work but I didn’t know his name. I saw these images every time I googled for DMT.
Do your DMT trips look like his art? None of my DMT or mushroom trips did.
The closest visuals to my trips are these:
Alex Grey does amazing psychedelic art, hell he even designed a tool album cover. As far as my visuals looking like that...only that one time. Most of the time my CEV are more H. R. Ginger, very machine like, very dark and alien....I love it. Moving machinery and gears combined with the noises and rhythmic droaning is beautiful to me but someone else might find it terrifying.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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I had an experience on 5g cubes. I was watching a wave of color behind closed eyes when I remembered a podcast with Hamilton Souther from Blue Morpho comment on someone asking what do the shapes and colors mean and a ayahuasca shaman said to ask the shapes and colors. In that moment those words rang through, the wave appeared to wash over my field of vision, as I passed through to a place of darkness with fine filaments of light collecting together. My next few moments have changed how I precieve consciousness and afterlife. A voice said, 'enjoy these earthly 'things', for once you're back to being a being of light, you won't have these 'things'.'
This has been my only encounter with entities, though I hesitate to say that because they had no distinct differences, all being individual strands, collecting together into groups of white light beings. Similar to how some mycelium grows.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: HamHead]
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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A demon for me is pretty much as the legends tell, a parasitic entity that feasts and fattens upon negative energy growing stronger as the user himself crumbles, by bullying, or terrifying him/her and turning his deepest, darkest subconcious fears and weaknesses against him, not only to control the person but in order to actually exist in a way. Negative emotions are their sustenance and they will try to extract as many delicious nutrients as they possibly can.
Many (if not hyperspace itself) of the DMT entities work on this same pennywise principle, whereby if one manages to face them down his own power will grow as theirs diminishes (and vice versa). Psychotic delusions (that orginate as auditory hallucinations) work in the same manner and are much more dangerous than the entities one encounters within hyperspace.
So if this is an accepted definition of what a demon is, it must then surely follow that an angel would be the reverse of this? An entity of positive energy and love and kindness?
Personally though I think demons are angels and angels are demons again (and interestingly) just as the ancient legends imply! It is only by facing the demons that you can experience the angels, or even if initially you meet only angels IME they will test and turn on you sooner or later, because it is just what they do.
Whatever or not they are actually extant, they seem to seek out nourishment by pushing us to emotional extremes in either one direction or the other. This IMO is where the therapeutic benefits of the experience come into play, there is no heaven without hell, and no angel that is not in reality actually a demon.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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Some people see angels on psychedelics. It has to do with your own preconceptions not anything that's actually real or even related to the drugs.
Lots of people who know angels are bullshit never see them on trips of any dose on any psychedelic. If it's what you believe in or are even slightly susceptible to then your probably will see them. Ask christians that trip. You'll meet significantly more people that have seen angels
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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Susceptible. Like a propensity.
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Also TAS Visuals has the best "digital" style DMT/Aya or LSD visuals ever! Check him out. I think that where your captain hook visuals are from.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said: Some people see angels on psychedelics. It has to do with your own preconceptions not anything that's actually real or even related to the drugs.
Lots of people who know angels are bullshit never see them on trips of any dose on any psychedelic. If it's what you believe in or are even slightly susceptible to then your probably will see them. Ask Christians that trip. You'll meet significantly more people that have seen angels
That's not what I was getting at myself, though I can't speak for others. I myself call them demons/angels not because of how they appear (Angel Gabriel these creatures aint!) or my having a religious background (I don't) but because of how they behave and how that behaviour so closely resembles the ancient legends.
They are not just demons/angels but hyperspace itself.
I may be speaking in metaphors describing mechanisms explainable by science or they may really be demons. I don't claim to know for sure either way to be honest.
It's easy to dismiss these creatures as mere hallucinations now but at the time nothing one has ever seen or experienced in his life could possibly explain or rationalize his own new found ability to suddenly imagine the unimaginable.
For me personally hyperspace confirms its validity by allowing you to gaze into something that is literally impossible knowing you will never be able to verbally explain or truly believe what you have experienced unless one day you return. Only then will it all be real again.
But as they are metaphysical entities that inhabit a metaphysical reality I don't think whether or not these entities are 'real' is really the point. They are obviously not real in the manner in which we normally determine things as real but I don't believe this rules out the possibility they exist in a manner we physical beings find almost impossible to comprehend.
As everything in the universe comes in two's, I for one find it quite plausible that just as there is a physical reality full of demonic/angelic humans, a metaphysical reality full of non-physical demons/angels also exists.
But absolute declarative's either way amount to the same thing IMO as nobody really knows. For all we know the physical reality we inhabit could be as equally false as the one we experience through substances such as DMT.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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wolf8312 said: That's not what I was getting at myself, though I can't speak for others.
I’m not arguing with you. We seem to understand each other. I just rather reply to your post than to Bod’s.
When people see things on mushrooms in which they believe, it doesn’t mean that those things are not real. Neither does it prove they are real. But saying that it proves they are unreal is quite stupid.
If I believe that Jupiter has moons because people I consider reliable told me about them, and then I buy a telescope, and I see the moons, does it prove the moons of Jupiter are unreal?
It’s the same situation. They are equally stupid.
At the moment, I can’t physically visit Jupiter. I can’t land on its moons yet. (Working on it). Considering the possibility that a curved mirror and a curved piece of glass allows me to see the moons of Jupiter is the same as considering that a magic mushroom allows me to see aliens and angels.
In fact, now I can see and even touch some of the "unreal" things at any time with sober mind yet I still cannot see Jupiter’s moons without a telescope. So, which one is more real?
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wolf8312 said: It's easy to dismiss these creatures as mere hallucinations now but at the time nothing one has ever seen or experienced in his life could possibly explain or rationalize his own new found ability to suddenly imagine the unimaginable.
I found dozens of things I’ve had never heard about, thought about, imagined in any way before I saw them on my trips. After I saw them, I found them in Vedic literature, Hinduism, and even new age books.
I know what you mean mate. I myself find the DMT/mushroom realm to be synonymous with Buddhism and its teachings (surrender let go etc). Entering a Buddhist temple I was once struck by how the imagery and artwork so closely resembled the DMT/mushroom realm. Felt so familiar! Maybe I should look into what the Buddhists have to say about demons.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: wolf8312]
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Or what they have to say about psychedelics. I think most buddhist and zen scholars have called psychedelics bad names
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bodhisatta said: Or what they have to say about psychedelics. I think most buddhist and zen scholars have called psychedelics bad names
Doesen't mean they are right.
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Re: Have you ever met an angel? [Re: Vylie]
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Thats very interesting. It is unfortunately true some assume that because an experience is obtained through psychedelics that it must therefore be invalidated. I can understand the tendency to think this (I still entertain this possibilty myself) but as it stands I feel have seen/felt more evidence that there is something else out there, than I have that the universe is spiritually empty.
Don't think it was a Hindu temple buddy, but now you say that as I am in China it may have been Daoist or something closely related. I think it was Buddhist though but agree that the imagery was similar to what one would see in a Hindu temple.
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