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McDominator



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Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying
#26997807 - 10/22/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey Guys, I don't see very many conversations on this topic. I assume most people don't have to worry so much about this sort of thing. I notice that for maybe a few weeks up to a few months after I do shrooms that my attention span isn't what it used to be making memory acquisition more difficult. Problem is, I need to be studying for a massive test for the next 6 months. I feel like I need to put a halt on shrooming for a while, but I recognize that my depression will likely also get the best of me in that timeframe.
Do any of you have experience with studying dense, detail oriented material in the weeks after a shroom trip? Do you notice a difference? Do you have tips and tricks for maybe bouncing back more quickly?
Thanks!
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Edited by McDominator (10/22/20 12:06 PM)
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AlexHoratio
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Re: Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying [Re: McDominator] 1
#26997822 - 10/22/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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honestly i think studying is a lot to do with the sheer amount of time you can spend with the material. your brain will get some idea about it eventually if it's there, just don't try and burn through all your energy until you start to hate it. IMO it gets way harder to learn once i'm just legitimately sick of the stuff i'm supposed to be learning.
as with many things, attaining a calm mind is somewhat of a more worthy goal than attaining a purely focused mind!
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Re: Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying [Re: McDominator]
#26998065 - 10/22/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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You might try zen meditation. Stimulants are also another option.
I've never really felt any impact on attention or memory from mushrooms. In fact, if anything I always felt a little better mentally after mushrooms. But that's when doing them infrequently, if you're doing them frequently, yeah, you should stop for a while.
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Re: Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying [Re: nooneman]
#26998075 - 10/22/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've never had an issue with attention or energy a couple of days after tripping. If anything, I have more energy and notice more for 1-3 days after, then the benefits seem to drop off.
I'd say, if it impacts you in such a way, take a break.
I find that enough sleep + daily exercise (and one day being extra intense cardio) keeps my energy and focus up, irregardless of whether I trip or not.
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Re: Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying [Re: McDominator]
#26999197 - 10/23/20 06:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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switch to microdosing.
also for studying switch to pad and pens, write everything, then summarize those notes into a smaller set of fewer notes, and then to a smaller set of points. do this for all your courses.
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McDominator



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Re: Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying [Re: redgreenvines]
#26999253 - 10/23/20 07:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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AlexHoratio said: honestly i think studying is a lot to do with the sheer amount of time you can spend with the material. your brain will get some idea about it eventually if it's there, just don't try and burn through all your energy until you start to hate it. IMO it gets way harder to learn once i'm just legitimately sick of the stuff i'm supposed to be learning.
as with many things, attaining a calm mind is somewhat of a more worthy goal than attaining a purely focused mind!
Yes, this is true. You may be onto something with the "calm mind" idea. When I can't focus it's typically because I have too many other things I want to think about.
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nooneman said: You might try zen meditation. Stimulants are also another option.
I've never really felt any impact on attention or memory from mushrooms. In fact, if anything I always felt a little better mentally after mushrooms. But that's when doing them infrequently, if you're doing them frequently, yeah, you should stop for a while.
I am trained in transcendental meditation if that works. I do that 20 minutes twice daily.
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Socrateshroom said: I've never had an issue with attention or energy a couple of days after tripping. If anything, I have more energy and notice more for 1-3 days after, then the benefits seem to drop off.
I'd say, if it impacts you in such a way, take a break.
I find that enough sleep + daily exercise (and one day being extra intense cardio) keeps my energy and focus up, irregardless of whether I trip or not.
I've been starting to exercise more lately to help my brain. This test is super important so I'm trying many things to keep my brain in good shape!
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redgreenvines said: switch to microdosing.
also for studying switch to pad and pens, write everything, then summarize those notes into a smaller set of fewer notes, and then to a smaller set of points. do this for all your courses.
Honestly did think about trying to microdose. I tried it before for a period of a few weeks (1 day on 2 days off) and it seemed to make me feel more depressed (perhaps I needed to work through something?) Might try this again though.
A common theme through some of these posts is that it doesn't affect you in this way, which I'm sort or surprised to see. Either it doesn't affect you this way or you haven't had to use enough of your brain to run into it but I'll trust your judgement on your functions. Another theory of mine is that perhaps I just I have ADD and it's more noticeable (or more pronounced?) after I trip. Hmmm. Maybe I will squeeze a trip in early on in my studies and reflect once more on how it affects me. Now I'm wondering if I'm just blowing this out of proportion.
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Re: Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying [Re: McDominator]
#26999342 - 10/23/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes all that study use this method
we would like to see it being used more it is the best method of studying
politicians and schools implement this method of studying

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17821161#17821161
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#26999437 - 10/23/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying [Re: Lion]
#27000503 - 10/23/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Iv done mushrooms 100s of times no lasting side-effects that are negative. Iv allways felt better afterwards like life is amazing an the things i worry about are waste of energy an time.
I think tripping is a good mental vacation as well an helps clear the clutter out.
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Re: Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying [Re: Ferdinando]
#27001156 - 10/24/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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thanks Ferdinando for finding that reference, and sharing it here.
the thing is that when you study with or without drugs, you are not spending time in the cycles that spin endlessly around depression.
using the same energy as spinning, while studying, you are reviewing, categorizing, assessing, intoning, checking facts, comparing dates, measurements, spelling, writing lists, drawing the connections, checking requirements etc.
there is no time to crash.
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Re: Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying [Re: redgreenvines]
#27002142 - 10/25/20 03:24 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I became more aware so it is easy for me not to crash

basically it is like I am driving around and not attracted to crash so I just don't go there
that's best
for me and my surroundings
and my time
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Re: Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying [Re: Ferdinando]
#27008273 - 10/28/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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the lectures say all they have on the tests
your grade will depend on how much of it you have learned
and wtehr you pass will depend on how much of it you have learned
when you get the books read everything then write everything as redgreenvines said
some personal tips:
good pen
buy the best you can find
it might just be a thing
but things have different qualities and looks
and studying has high priority
and importance
so when you get a pen that looks good and appealing
that can make you study more
you are more likely to sit and do it more with a good pen
google search
top 10
this is paraphernalia though and might not be that important but maybe the same with pad
at lectures write everything the lecturer sais
something I do and you might get benefit from but might not be that important or important if it works for you you can do it
recite
learn point by point
repeat so you know several points
connect to root title
write root title
be able to say all of it
3 or 10 points or something like that
good luck with the microdosing
you have great taste in chemicals
I'm glad you choose the best
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McDominator



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Re: Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying [Re: Ferdinando]
#27009729 - 10/29/20 06:57 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think I figured out my main issue. It always comes back to Trauma. Just gotta keep my focus and keep working out my issues.
Thanks all who replied, I did pick up some good tips
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Re: Shrooms and brain function - Specifically for studying [Re: McDominator]
#27011786 - 10/30/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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good luck with that
yes there is lots of work to do on oneself
all good
milling
processing trauma and dark stuff to happiness
drawing helps too
there are many alternatives to what redgreenvines said subjects that spin endlessly around depression
or what it was
you know becoming happier because doing something meaningful or productive
drawing does something similar
painting
etc.
lots of portalt into a better and happier etc. world
and life
and time
it may take a long time to figure out
but it does not take long to do it
it is about what activities one is in
and what one is doing
common sense
the essence of zen
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