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How many people can feel .05 grams (1/20 gram) *opioid rehab*
    #26999130 - 10/23/20 05:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My partner is starting to experiment with micro dosing and started with .05 before bed, waking up remarking "I feel that" (only slept 10-20 minutes about 120 minutes after ingestion following a restless 45 minutes or so of laying down and waking from a bad dream relating to many concerns for the following day). Our belief is that they are particularly sensitive to psilocybin so I am curious how many people can feel that dose as I cannot, or haven't yet. This is parallel with a taper off of 2 mg of suboxone. They are trying to use this to aid their discontinuation of this long lasting opioid and rehabilitation drug. It is a prescription and they started at 8mg. Research has revealed 2mg is the most difficult dose to go down from. If any one has experience using mushrooms to aid opioid rehab I would love to hear from you. Any more specific info would be much appreciated.
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Re: How many people can feel .05 grams (1/20 gram) *opioid rehab* [Re: RichardCranium]
    #27000399 - 10/23/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yes using LSD or mushroom microdoses can help amazingly during suboxone taper.  I did it myself, almost every if not every other day during the taper.  The last 2mg are absolutely the hardest, with going down from 1mg->0mg being the hardest part.  This should be done very slowly, carefully and methodically.  Go from 2mg to 1.5mg, then 1.25mg, then 1mg, then .75mg, then .5mg, then .25mg, then after a few weeks at .25mg he can jump to 0 or .25mg every other day until he jumps.

The microdose is very helpful, but is better taken around the time he wakes up rather then before bed.


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Re: How many people can feel .05 grams (1/20 gram) *opioid rehab* [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27000417 - 10/23/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

What dose seemed to help you the most? Or did you use LSD? We have a small supply of that, 8 tabs of unknown mpg level, most likely around 75 I would guess. So probably not enough for the whole taper.


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Re: How many people can feel .05 grams (1/20 gram) *opioid rehab* [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27000571 - 10/23/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hello! I am said partner and I'd appreciate any advice on how you did it. We are doing a slow taper over 6 weeks. I actually was around 16mg at the most but ive been stuck at between 2-3 mg for about a year. I was able to go down quickly before I hit that mark, now its super super rough.

I seem to be sensitive to psyolisibin, or that's my theory anyways as I seem to feel much smaller amounts. .05 I barely felt but it did keep me from sleeping and when I did sleep I had strange dreams.

Do you take the microdose at a certain time of day or just as needed?

Anything else that helped?

Sorry for all the questions, ive just never been able to talk to someone who has been thru it and was successful.

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Re: How many people can feel .05 grams (1/20 gram) *opioid rehab* [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27000785 - 10/24/20 03:52 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Typerwritermonky said:
The microdose is very helpful, but is better taken around the time he wakes up rather then before bed.




I second this. It does interfere with sleep, even if it's barely noticeable. For waking microdosing, you might have to bring it up to .1 or so.

I've never taken opioids, I only have some experience with using microdosing for nicotine addiction, but I hope I can still be helpful here.

What is your suboxone schedule? I see no point in taking suboxone and shrooms at the same time, coz shrooms are supposed to get you through withdrawal. So, if you take suboxone before bed, that's another argument for microdosing during the day. Psilocybin microdose lasts about 6 hours. Maybe take a microdose in the morning and then half that amount in the afternoon as a booster.

LSD acts longer and is definitely more stimulating than shrooms. Here is what I did once. I put 1/4 of an (allegedly) 200ug tab in a syringe with 20mg alcohol and took 1-2 mg orally every now and then. It's very easy to dose after you test the potency. I liked shrooms more coz they're more gentle, but give it a shot and see which helps you better. After all, you can always switch back to shrooms if acid doesn't do it for you or if you run out of tabs.


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Re: How many people can feel .05 grams (1/20 gram) *opioid rehab* [Re: RichardCranium]
    #27001308 - 10/24/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with TWM that it would be much more ideal to take it early in the day rather than before bed.



Also....I highly recommend taking an actual full dose periodically. I don't know how long ya'll plan on taking to taper down off the sub, but just an idea is sticking with micro-dosing daily and taking a full dose once every 7 to 10 days or so.

Microdosing has its place, but I feel a full dose has much more power and potential to help with such things in various ways. The experience/trip itself can be refreshing and encouraging and motivating and uplifting, and from a neurological stand point I feel psychedelics like mushroom and LSD can play a part in lessening physical dependence on opioids and "work magic" on neuroplasticity and basically "re-wiring" the brain to put it crudely.

I find the day after a trip (with mushrooms or LSD) I can go with out my daily dose of kratom and basically not experience any symptoms of withdrawal setting in like I normally would...And when I do take my daily dose the day after a trip I find it is much more potent than usual and I can basically cut my dose in 1/2.

So there is def something going on with serotonergic psychedelics having some sort of influence on the opioid system/receptors and lessening dependence/tolerance. But I feel this potential won't come about from tiny micro-doses. (tho I'm not saying micro-dosing doesn't help, no doubt it can)


just my 2 cents tho...:shrug: .



I consider myself to be pretty sensitive to psychedelics and I don't think I would notice a 0.05g dose of typical cubensis...If they were cyans or a woodlover species then that's probably the very lowest dose I'd notice, because I can feel 0.1g of cyans/woodlovers.

That's such a small dose I'd almost say if one is "feeling it" I'd say it's placebo, but it's possible.


Keep at it tho...Hope you manage to get off the things :thumbup: .





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