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Mimosa Hostilis - Growing from seed & planning for harvesting
    #26998592 - 10/22/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I have searched for many hours and cannot find answers to the following questions & would be overwhelmed with appreciation by anyone who has experience or knowledge (ideally both) in this area.

A bit of background, I live in the wet tropics at 16.9 latitude & have about 8 Mimosa Hostilis seedlings that are about 6 weeks old & seem to be doing well.

I live in Australia and have become really jaded with the 2 main go to places to obtain bark (Australians will know who I am talking about)
Over the last 5 years I have undertaken at least 100 separate extractions & never obtained more than .25% yellow crystals (more like .15% if honest)

You cannot stuff this up that badly for so long. If you stuff up every step, you can still over basify at the end and in theory, be able to recover any missed actives.

This made me come to the decision to grow my own and my goal is to have a sustainable home grown supply to see me into retirement & I am fully aware that it may take 5 years to get a yield this way.

QUESTIONS

1) BARK WEIGHT IN GRAMS - Best case return
As mentioned, wet tropic location, on a per tree basis, assuming a healthy tree in a sunny location, cared for over say 4 years, what would be the best case return of dried root bark while also allowing the tree to survive for another harvest?

2) BARK WEIGHT IN GRAMS - Worst case return
Same as above but has anyone had a tree that even though it showed outward signs of being a healthy tree, just did not produce very much in the way of root bark & if so what was the worst return you have ever seen on an otherwise healthy looking tree?

3) HOW TO PLANT IN THE GROUND - For both the trees benefit & ease of harvest.
Could I plant from the pot into the ground onto say a artificial mound a foot or two off the ground?
That is an example of what I mean by planting in the ground. In my uneducated mind, by planting on a mound of soil say 2 feet high by 5 feet wide, when the time came to harvest some roots, it could make things easier, can I confirm this?

4) TYPE OF SOIL
There is no choice regarding the actual soil it will eventually grow into however, would there be an advantage of creating an area of a more sandy or breathable mix of soil surrounding the plant or should it just learn to work with the soil that is native to where I plant it?
In my mind it makes sense to use a less dense soil out to at least 3 feet and say 2 feet deep however does that mean it will become the equivalent a mars bar eating, computer game playing, chubby soft body of the plant world?

Would it be better to make it work hard to live early on? I do not know which way to go as they both seem to have merits.


5) AVOIDING OVER HARVESTING
Is there a rule of thumb with harvesting rootbark from MHRB?
I realise it is probably not as easy as a simple answer but is there a formulae like "do not remove more than 4 roots from any one tree at any one time"
The issue I have is that how do I know how many roots I can safely remove when I do not know how healthy and how many total roots there are because they are all hidden under the ground?

6) NUMBER OF TREES FOR HEALTHY PERSONAL USE (Plus being generous with friends)
OK, truth is in the past, I have vaped a gram and a half of DMT in a weekend without what I believe was overdoing it. Not even breaking through, just sitting on the balcony at 2 am in the morning hitting 70% breakthrough admiring the clouds and the little skulls in the trees etc.

Say someone who had the expectation of consuming 2 grams a month or 24 grams a year. 
How many mature (I have heard a mature tree is anywhere from 3-5 years old) trees would I need to have in my flock so that I could sustainably harvest them and hit that 24 gram yearly supply?

Thanks for any responses.


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Re: Mimosa Hostilis - Growing from seed & planning for harvesting [Re: mrbiggles0007]
    #26999899 - 10/23/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

"hitting 70% breakthrough admiring the clouds and the little skulls in the trees etc."
hmmmm, really? That's how you used 1.5g? That'd be like 20 scifi movies worth of content for me.

I don't think any of us here can answer these questions. Container growers will never get enough root mass for it to be worth the time growing a multi-year tree outside its climate zone. Rules out a lot of us. If you can find the seeds I'd just plant as many as you can and well, you have 4+ years to find the answers to these questions.

I do know the natural climate is arid, so I'm guessing a looser more draining soil would be ideal. Checkout documentaries for other possible answers. Hamilton's pharmacopeia has an episode where he interviews some mimosa farmers.

Australia is tough. I can get MHRB for $50/kilo anywhere else. May be faster to just run for political office and change their import laws.


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    #27000224 - 10/23/20 06:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

If you search you will find :nicesmile:


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Re: Mimosa Hostilis - Growing from seed & planning for harvesting [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #27002234 - 10/25/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I see, thanks for imparting your knowledge.


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