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Jamie333
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Please ID newbie Liberty collection!
#26998114 - 10/22/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi, pretty confident I have some libs. Found about 80 two days ago in a field nearby, and noticed some guy shroom grazing. Went back two days after some rain and couldn't believe my luck. Got more this time, but did get carried away with the big ones, very excited, then a little deflated, wondering "But can they get this big?!"
I have taken 4 photos. Each photo is a slightly different kind of shroom, it seems. Photo 4 I'm pretty sure they're liberties just like the last batch. They were classic with bell-shaped caps, teats, and grey-brown gills. Classic looking, except a few big ones, less bell-shaped and longer.
Photo 2 they were lighter in appearance and the gills not as dark as Photo 1 (more clay coloured but NOT white or yellow). With teats, mostly, but slighting different in shape,and found together with some classic libs nearby.
Photo 3 Bigger lib lookalikes? As they get bigger I become more doubtful. Also I wonder if ALL libs have the bell shaped cap and teat, or do they sometimes vary? These were same colour as the classic libs, olive-brown when wet, beige when dry. Gills the same, grey-blue.
Photo 4... Even bigger again and caps far less bell shaped, semi-disc shaped. Gills similar shape and brown.
Photo 5 spore prints. All of them spored brown-black. So at the least it seems I don't have anything likely poisonous?
Habitat: Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc.
Field where cows sometimes graze. Seen plenty of manure there in past, but shrooms in the grass, mostly near the feeding trough where wet. All shrooms same location.
Gills: Photo 1 - grey brown to purple, Photo 2 - lighter grey to beige (but no white or yellow), Photo 3 - Grey brown, Photo 4 grey brown
Stem: All shrooms 2-3 inches, straw colour (yellow-white), tough like straw, solid, thin but thick in the big shrooms. 0.2-0.5cm
Cap: 0.4-2.5cm, brown-olive when wet, turning beige when dry, including the lighter coloured shrooms (photo 2). Conical mostly, some not so, especially the biggest ones, became less conical, a little more 'disc' shaped.
Spore print color: Brown black
Bruising: No bruising visible.
Other information: ? Smell same as previous libertys.



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ambc
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Re: Please ID newbie Liberty collection! [Re: Jamie333]
#26998170 - 10/22/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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All look good, in jumbles like that sometimes a random other species can hide, though.
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Re: Please ID newbie Liberty collection! [Re: ambc]
#26998175 - 10/22/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
ambc said: All look good, in jumbles like that sometimes a random other species can hide, though.

like the two on the bottom right corner on the 4th image
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Re: Please ID newbie Liberty collection! [Re: ZenZone]
#26998194 - 10/22/20 03:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks Zenzone
Are they poisonous though?
Of course I don't want shrooms which are inactive and may water-down the final product,so to speak, but my main concern is not to poison myself! haha
I did spore prints however and they all spored the same so at least there isn't a poisonous "lookalike" like Gallerina in there?!
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Re: Please ID newbie Liberty collection! [Re: ZenZone]
#26998200 - 10/22/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here's the spore prints
All look the same dark brown/black.
I have heard gallerina is rusty-brown, although I just saw a picture it was dark with some browner areas. I was hoping it would be more obvious than that!
Quite a learning curve. ...
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Re: Please ID newbie Liberty collection! [Re: ambc]
#26998206 - 10/22/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks AMBC
Any advice on how to "organise" my self when picking?
I had a bag with multiple compartments and I was placing different types found together with each other, thinking they'd need IDing, although I may have mixed some up for sure.
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Re: Please ID newbie Liberty collection! [Re: Jamie333]
#26998213 - 10/22/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Zenzone,
Can I please also ask you, what is it about the two bottom right of the fourth picture that doesn't look like liberty?
Thank you
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Re: Please ID newbie Liberty collection! [Re: Jamie333]
#26998231 - 10/22/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry, I meant 3rd image, and there are more there that I see now. I don't think those are poisonous but rule no 1: never eat unidentified mushrooms, so wait for more experienced members, I could be totally wrong here. So I'm having trouble saving and editing the picture atm for some weird reason otherwise I would have circled the ones in question. They have more of a dome shaped caps / lack of the nipple makes me think those might be some mycena species, but like I said, wait for more experienced members
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Re: Please ID newbie Liberty collection! [Re: ZenZone]
#26998261 - 10/22/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jamie333
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Re: Please ID newbie Liberty collection! [Re: ZenZone]
#26998269 - 10/22/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks
Don't worry. That's why I'm here. Although last time i was confident as they looked exactly like libs as per all the classic pictures and real life examples I've seen.
it's just today I could identify some obvious libs, but unsure abuot some at the end, mostly because of their size and as you say sometimes lack of nipple or different shape of cap.
Question is, what to do with them all - they are all sat on separate sheets of paper? More research! Do I keep them in fridge for now?!
Won't begin drying them out yet until clearer on their ID
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Re: Please ID newbie Liberty collection! [Re: ZenZone]
#26998276 - 10/22/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for that
So I am wondering why you think those are different from the rest? Quite a few don't have teat, but even then clearly look like libs (to my untrained eyes anyway).
Is it that they are darker too. Those you ringed seem to not be drying as quick, wet, so remaining darker? Or you picking up on the different shape, kind of rounder.
Except the top one you ringed, it's the angle the cap is facing to camera as the stem bent, and that one does indeed have a teat.
I'm determined to learn. Clearly a long way to go!
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