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OfflinePsilocybin Man

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Uk - Semilanceata ID Please
    #26997972 - 10/22/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hey all,

Found these in fields grazed by sheep in the midlands UK.

Pretty confident there all libs but would be great if you could take a look over them and let me know if there are any imposters.

Much appreciated

Thanks.



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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: Psilocybin Man]
    #26998042 - 10/22/20 02:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You definitely have libs but also cant see close enough to spot out any ones that wouldnt be libs.


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OfflinePsilocybin Man

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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: 1kldude]
    #26998067 - 10/22/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I can take more photos if required. Not sure how id take close ups without taking lots of photos though. Are the images not in focus when zoomed in? I just had a look and they look ok to me, I am using a phone though.

Let me know if better photos are needed.


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: Psilocybin Man]
    #26998076 - 10/22/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

looks like 100% libs, nice haul


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: circles]
    #26998125 - 10/22/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks circles.


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: Psilocybin Man]
    #26998159 - 10/22/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I think you have 2 Paneaolus in there and maybe 3, all in group #4.

Page 4- Sixth from the left.
Page 3- seventh from the left.
I think are a probably a Panaeolus species.

Maybe the fourth from the right on page 1, but I think it’s more likely a lib.


quote]Psilocybin Man said:
Not sure how id take close ups without taking lots of photos though. Are the images not in focus when zoomed in?

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As far as photos are concerned, in general the closer up the better, The focus isn’t the issue it’s that the camera is only focused on the outline and most superficial of detail. The characteristics  that are often most important in order to differentiate between similar looking species are the ones that can o ly be seen in close up photos. Most people do take a ton of pictures, whether they are taking them for purposes of identification, whether they are requests, or as examples.
Even if they are just being taken for purely aesthetic/artistic rather than scientific reasons, regardless of the subject matter, most photographers take multitudinous photos, in order to get any at all that are able to communicate the intended message.

That being said, in this instance, your photos are pretty much satisfactory, but that is because there isn’t very much in question, because they are a particularly easy mushroom to ID, for a exceptionally large number of people.


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: ambc]
    #26998255 - 10/22/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'm quite sure the one on page 4 was a lib, maybe I'm wrong or maybe the photo doesn't do it justice.

I see what you mean about the one on page 3 though the stipe looks straighter than the others.

There in the dehydrator now though. *sigh*

Am I right with my understanding there are no toxic mushrooms in the Pan genus? Any harmful ones?


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: Psilocybin Man]
    #26998385 - 10/22/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

First Image under number 3, first one right under where the number is written. Maybe not a lib, but you seem to have the identifying down, because the rest look brilliant. Maybe that one just slipped in.


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: Psilocybin Man]
    #26998400 - 10/22/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Psilocybin Man said:
Am I right with my understanding there are no toxic mushrooms in the Pan genus?



Yeah.


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: ambc]
    #26998411 - 10/22/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

ambc said:
I think you have 2 Paneaolus in there and maybe 3, all in group #4.

Page 4- Sixth from the left.
Page 3- seventh from the left.
I think are a probably a Panaeolus species.

Maybe the fourth from the right on page 1, but I think it’s more likely a lib.


quote]Psilocybin Man said:
Not sure how id take close ups without taking lots of photos though. Are the images not in focus when zoomed in?

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ambc- I’m not seeing at all what you are seeing...hoping to learn more about libs can you elaborate the ones you pointed out seem to match for libs imo and don’t seem to look like pans at all.
Thanks for spreading the knowledge


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #26998548 - 10/22/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Really I can’t be sure those ones have stems broken off short so it’s difficult to see any real detail in a pic of that size and roundish caps which lots of libs do anyway. But if they are pans it is not a big deal so it’s kinda a non-issue for any reason other than being good protocol to ID anything you plan to eat 100%


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: ambc]
    #26998575 - 10/22/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:cheers:


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #26999024 - 10/23/20 02:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the input all, its all good learning to me being new to this.

Kicking myself for putting them in the dehydrator as would have liked to look at the two questioned in more detail.

I suppose my last question is should I chuck them because there are a couple of potential pans in there? There are a little over 10.5 dried grams there so would be a waste, but I'm more interested in being safe.


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: Psilocybin Man]
    #26999087 - 10/23/20 04:21 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Why though? There are no known toxic Panaeolus species, you're safe. :thumbup:


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: Nickoloxious] * 1
    #26999093 - 10/23/20 04:28 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I know, I'm just being over cautious is all.

Shame I didn't get chance to look over the questionable ones again. I looked at each mushroom closely before posting pics and was adamant they were all libs. Would have been good to either prove myself wrong or confirm and post close up pics.

Thank you for all the help as always anyway guys. Great community 👍


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: circles]
    #26999122 - 10/23/20 05:28 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

circles said:
looks like 100% libs, nice haul




:whathesaid:

No Panaeolus or any other impostors here as I can see.


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Re: Uk - Semilanceata ID Please [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26999152 - 10/23/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for confirming Anglerfish, much appreciated 😁.


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