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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: LosTresOjos]
#27000459 - 10/23/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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As mush as i love tripping with people i do prefer solo tripping my self i feel like less distractions the better an you can also really focus on what you want to improve your life an break bad habits.
I really appreciate LSD an mushrooms for the benefits they give us the rides are some of the most beautiful things ever to experience 😉.
The best thing I have learned is respect your substance an never over do it. They have special magic an you can lose it if you abuse it. Iv done it my slef i had to take a year off an come back with a different minde set. As much as i get fuck up i think its more important to go in with an intention an use it as a tool to better your slef.
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
#27000495 - 10/23/20 09:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I tripped often from about 16-23 or so.
Then I had some anxiety attacks that put me off psychedelics for a while, even though I wasn’t tripping when they happened.
Now I’m older and I’ll do half a hit of acid every 2-3 years. I smoke a lot of weed the rest of the time. Tripping is something amazing and I treasure those memories. But I doubt I’d go that deep again. Life gets in the way. And I don’t even have a family. I’m just trying to stay sane and keep the visual disturbances to a minimum
Btw nonagon infinity is a great album
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: drr]
#27000718 - 10/24/20 01:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I like to set aside time in advance and know that the trip is coming. Last few years I have been setting aside the Solstices and Equinoxes as dates to trip on. It doesnt always happen on that exact night. But usually within a week or two, often on the night of the full moon. It just depends upon commitments and when I know for sure I can have a solid day off to recharge, and then I'll set aside the night before to trip on with no disturbances or responsibilities. If I dont sleep at all that night its ok, because the next day is downtime to recharge on. Sometimes I'll trip in between those dates; but often I wont.
Knowing in advance that the trip is coming and I wont back out means that I have to face the trip even if I'm not really feeling like it. The seasons of life always change, especially this last year. There is something to be said about experiencing all of those seasons with some trips, no matter what. It can be challenging, but in the challenges is when we grow the most.
I also recognize that the potential outcome of never taking a break can be a gradual disconnect from reality. Losing that grip on reality is not something that I want to experience. But at the same time, with each trip there is an element of disconnect from day-to-day reality, especially the deeper that you go. And over time these experiences stay with you and become a part of you.
Even as we grow older we evolve. I want to evolve in the direction of being more open and true to myself, warts and all. Psychedelics seem to be the best way forward with this, but only if the lessons are applied in real life and result in real growth and refinement and change. Otherwise too much psychedelics is not good. It can shake too much of what you know be true, and a world like that can become dark and cynical. Taken too far it can even become tragic.
So I think that it is good to have purpose and intention. Restraint is good. How many times a year actually make sense and will be beneficial? Its good to think about that and make a plan that works for you.
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: LosTresOjos]
#27000732 - 10/24/20 01:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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LosTresOjos said: I feel as if i have to train my mind to focus. In the past i have just allowed the experience to sweep by but these days i try to interact and be with the experience instead of observing. If that makes any sense.
As far as I understand, it's impossible not to "be with the experience". Even if you're just approaching it as an observer instead of an active participant, it still happens and you still experience it either way. Still, I understand that you're trying to shift your intention with it, which can be useful. I think your intention has a significant effect on the outcome of a psychedelic experience.
Thanks for sharing your story
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: Mach z 800]
#27000740 - 10/24/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mach z 800 said: As mush as i love tripping with people i do prefer solo tripping my self i feel like less distractions the better an you can also really focus on what you want to improve your life an break bad habits.
Often times, for me, it just depends on the circumstances. When I trip with people I love and care about, I find that it can often show me aspects of my relationship with them that isn't obvious in everyday experience, and that can be really useful. I often find that tripping with people I care about increases my gratitude towards them, which is nice! This can also backfire, though. My most recent mushroom trip was with someone who was a friend, but who I also wasn't very close with. While we were tripping, I discovered that he had been dating my ex (not his fault at all - he had never met her while we were dating). That was a tough one 
I agree that tripping alone comes along with less distractions. I also find that I'm a lot less anxious when I trip on my own. There are fewer variables, and I feel a greater sense of freedom on my own, which generally puts me more at ease.
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: drr]
#27000742 - 10/24/20 01:52 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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drr said: Now I’m older and I’ll do half a hit of acid every 2-3 years. I smoke a lot of weed the rest of the time. Tripping is something amazing and I treasure those memories. But I doubt I’d go that deep again. Life gets in the way. And I don’t even have a family. I’m just trying to stay sane and keep the visual disturbances to a minimum
I feel ya. It's always important to prioritize your sober life above drugs, in my opinion 
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drr said: Btw nonagon infinity is a great album
It's legendary, dude. That album changed my life.
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: Grey Fox]
#27000749 - 10/24/20 02:03 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Grey Fox said: Even as we grow older we evolve. I want to evolve in the direction of being more open and true to myself, warts and all. Psychedelics seem to be the best way forward with this, but only if the lessons are applied in real life and result in real growth and refinement and change. Otherwise too much psychedelics is not good. It can shake too much of what you know be true, and a world like that can become dark and cynical. Taken too far it can even become tragic.
So I think that it is good to have purpose and intention. Restraint is good. How many times a year actually make sense and will be beneficial? Its good to think about that and make a plan that works for you.
This is all very sound advice. Thanks for sharing. Restraint is absolutely a good thing (as others in the thread have described it, every healthy relationship has boundaries).
I think I'm at the stage where I'm still figuring out what my plan is. I don't know how many times a year makes sense right now. I think I'm more at the stage where I just trip whenever it feels right from day to day. I never do it more than once every two weeks, but the primary reason for that is to keep my tolerance low.
You're also absolutely right that abuse of psychedelics can shake too much of what we know to be true. I've met a few people who have gone too far with psychedelic usage, and it's sad to see because they become very alienated from other people. Every psychedelic experience I've had has been something that I've carried around with me since it happened. Thankfully, all of my experiences have had useful lessons, and I still feel very much in-touch with reality, but I'm also aware that this isn't something I can take for granted, and that carrying around all of my psychedelic experiences with me will be something that happens for better or worse.
Again, thanks for sharing
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
#27000763 - 10/24/20 02:36 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hate tripping with other people. Way too much planning and the other people usually don't trip for the same reason you do. other people bring down my trip and I always feel like I have to check in on them and make sure they are doing okay. I can't just immerse myself in the trip and get what I need out of it.if any of you have followed any of my posts you might be familiar with the one in psychedelic experience where I asked people advice on doing a day trip at the beach. Well I canceled that trip because one of my friends is a fucking high functioning ADHD narcissist bitch who is always rushing the shit out of me and I'm not going to fucking handle that when I'm tripping. like literally every time she is on the phone with me her voice sounds like she has a million better things to be doing than talking to me. after that I vow to never trip with anyone else again unless it is maybe a low dose of LSD. I should have just gone to the damn Beach myself and fucking taken acid myself.
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#27000807 - 10/24/20 04:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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It isn't always the case the one just gets old, gets married, has kids etc. and time/priorities change, although it's often a factor in reduced/eliminated use of psychedelics.
For me though, and where I'm at in life at 40 years old, I just don't feel the need to trip often, if ever.
I think if you get too sucked in to the state of the world and stress and any other concerns in this dream we call life, they can be a great tool to put things back into perspective. But with a healthy level of spirituality (whatever that means lol) and positivity in life, I just don't find it necessary any more.
For me, having gone through troubles with abusing drugs most of my life, I find it's a whole new experience living without them. And I don't just mean quitting the hard ones, I did that years ago, I mean cutting out alcohol, tobacco, pot, caffeine, ALL drugs. It's a crazy new experience not needing anything to get through the day or sleep through the night.
So anyway, that's where I'm at right now. Times and headspace change though, I'm sure the psychedicelics will call to me when they might be useful and I'll probably visit them again.
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: Forrester]
#27000843 - 10/24/20 06:24 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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that is very true. at times of implementation and labor - recreational chemistry stops. when all the ducks are lined up - more recreation is possible.
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: redgreenvines]
#27000855 - 10/24/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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that's one of the coolest things I've heard
I'm at a similar stage
I don't believe in cutting out psychedelics life long though
sometimes long breaks are necessary but one has to revisit them
at least like at age 60 or something like that
friends have totally quit and their life is not worth living
or close to
that seems to happen when one quits for life and life is worth living and exciting with them later it seems
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: Ferdinando]
#27000866 - 10/24/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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it is probably preferable to not overdo it so one doesn't have to take a break
with the internet and so many substances it is easy to do so many substances with such a high frequency that a break becomes necessary or psychosis
for this not to happen it is important to be moderate
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: Ferdinando]
#27000870 - 10/24/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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with so many substances it becomes important to choose the best and most awesome of them
my choices would be bc bubble has marijuana or the best kief legally and easily bought, salvia and 1plsd
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: Ferdinando]
#27000871 - 10/24/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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it becomes important to choose the best
and those are relatively benign and safe and good
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: Ferdinando]
#27000874 - 10/24/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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when psychosis sets in it is usually becauce of quantity and it is important to be moderate so
maybe not so many substances and not so frequently and not so high dose
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: Ferdinando]
#27001608 - 10/24/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your doses are really not high at all and I really don't see any derealization happening from your usage. People who go crazy from these drugs are using it all the time like what Syd Barrett was doing.
Even when I was working before covid-19 I always set time for tripping at least once a month. With three days off per week I would trip either the last day of the work week or the day after. I don't have kids and never want them.
I have undiagnosed ADHD and I have other mental issues so tripping is definitely not anything that I would quit doing all together. as long as I have access I will do them at least once a month. I love to go outside of my mind so I can learn about the inside of my mind and handle life more easily. I like switching back and forth between mushrooms and LSD. mushrooms can be an emotional roller coaster sometimes where LSD can be more gentle and loving to contrast the mushroom trip. Lsd for introspection and fun and to let loose, mushrooms for learning about my cognitive behavioral psychology.
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#27002588 - 10/25/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Your doses are really not high at all and I really don't see any derealization happening from your usage. People who go crazy from these drugs are using it all the time like what Syd Barrett was doing.
Yeah, I'm very careful with dosage and with frequency. Psychosis was one of my biggest fears when I first started using psychedelics, but now that I'm out of my early twenties (the most vulnerable time in life), it's not as big of a concern for me.
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OutsideOfMyMind said: mushrooms can be an emotional roller coaster sometimes where LSD can be more gentle and loving to contrast the mushroom trip. Lsd for introspection and fun and to let loose, mushrooms for learning about my cognitive behavioral psychology.
That's funny - this just shows how different everyone is when it comes to psychedelics. Personally, I find mushrooms to be a much more gentle and loving experience, and I find LSD to be more of an emotional roller coaster. That's just me, though haha
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
#27003287 - 10/25/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: What a great post to read. I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with tripping once or twice a month if you can get your hands on it. I personally try to take psychedelics at least once a month because I feel it gives my emotions and my stress level a reset. I also feel like I learn how to deal with my own reality better.
Yeah, once or twice a month definitely doesn't feel like it's too much, given my life circumstances. Doesn't get in the way of my work or any of my other responsibilities. It really only seems to enhance my life for the time being 
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OutsideOfMyMind said: What kind of doses are you taking?
Not very high ones. My favorite dosage right now is 2.5 dried grams of average variety p. cubensis. Most of the time, at this dosage, it gets me to either a level 2 or 3 trip. This Sunday, I'm going to start exploring a little deeper with 3.6 dried grams of cubensis. Hoping for a strong level 3 or maybe level 4 trip. I have taken 3.6 dried grams before, but it was with some friends, never on my own. I'm really excited for it!
I think it also depends on the specific mushroom trip. In general mushrooms make my mind zoom faster than with LSD. so I sort of feel like I'm in less control on mushrooms than with acid. It could also be the fact that we are in a pandemic and so some of my trips this year I have thought a little bit about the dark side.
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#27003306 - 10/25/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I find acid easier to deal with, more of an extroverted trip than mushrooms.
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Re: Maintaining a long term relationship with psychedelics? [Re: Northerner]
#27003310 - 10/25/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Northerner said: I've been using psychedelics on and off for maybe 25 years. For me it comes and goes. Some years I'll trip very often, other years irregularly, other years not at all. Sometimes I'll forget about psychedelics for years, then suddenly I'll want it again and I'll find myself in another psychedelic romance.
Could not have said it better myself. It is a romantic relationship, sometimes replaced with another, kids and love, but one that you can always go back to, a lover who is always ready for your return and never angry for being spurned for another, ready again to teach.
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