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OfflineThorasta
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Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please
    #26997051 - 10/21/20 09:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I passed on this mushroom when I didn't see a blue ring (see upside down shroom in photo), but now I'm wondering if I need to go back for a closer look and a spore print.

Does this look like Stuntzii? (and if not, other psilocybe?)


Thanks.


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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: Thorasta]
    #26997061 - 10/21/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think it's stuntzii, but it does look interesting. Did you see blue bruising anywhere? The one young one on its side almost looks like has some bluing on the stem but it's hard to tell. Yeah you should definitely go back and investigate. Allenii? Ovoids? Galerina? (I doubt it's galerina tho, the gills would be more redish brownish I think) Idk but let's see what others think! Based on just this one picture I'm leaning towards allenii. Edit: But then again .... those nipples tho... hmmm idk


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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: ZenZone]
    #26997072 - 10/21/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It does look psilocybeish....
Definitely gather some more info and photos please. Maybe section a specimen? :shrug:

The only look alike I can think of is Hypholoma and that is just because of the dense cluster growth and spore colour.


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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: Nickoloxious]
    #26997107 - 10/21/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Ovoid...  Stipe seems wrong (not white enough).  Shape is not ovoid-ish. 
They do look a bit like dark Allenii - but can't find any pictures of them nearly this dark.
I'm a noob at identification, so I'll get more info and let you guys look.

ZenZone -- It wasn't what I was looking for (cyans - third year looking, batting a 0), so I didn't even look for staining.  Will bring some home tomorrow and see if there's staining and do a sporeprint.

Nickoloxious -- when you say "section a specimen", do you mean cut the cap in half and take a picture of the side-shape left after cutting?


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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: Thorasta] * 1
    #26997112 - 10/21/20 10:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Slice one down the middle, cap & stem. Maybe wait a bit afterwards to see if there’s any bruising.


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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: Nickoloxious] * 1
    #26997117 - 10/21/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The reason for them being so dark is probably a thick layer of spore deposit on some of the caps combined with moisture (very dark purple brown)
Can't wait to see the new photos :strokebeard:


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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: ZenZone]
    #26999484 - 10/23/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It wouldn't spore print until it dried quite a bit, but looks purple/black to me.  Bad light, not entirely sure.

They do have rings, thinking stuntzii again?  Can't tell if there is blueing with the naked eye, but the photos seem to show bits of it here and there.

Stalks are a bit too small to slice lengthwise.

Like an idiot I didn't grab any of the young lightly colored ones.  :P
I won't eat unless there is positive ID.






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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: Thorasta]
    #26999844 - 10/23/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, the possibility  of stuntzii is back. But they are too dry now / too far gone for a definite ID tho. Either way, I would call them psilocybe. I wish a TI would chip in.  Cool find nevertheless, maybe the patch will flush one more time this season.


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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: Thorasta] * 1
    #26999869 - 10/23/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Thorasta said:

Like an idiot I didn't grab any of the young lightly colored ones.  :P
I won't eat unless there is positive ID.





Oh, I missed this part, any chance you would go back again? :grin:


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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: ZenZone]
    #27000667 - 10/23/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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ZenZone said:
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Thorasta said:

Like an idiot I didn't grab any of the young lightly colored ones.  :P
I won't eat unless there is positive ID.





Oh, I missed this part, any chance you would go back again? :grin:




Yep, but it is going to be several days.  Busy busy.  It is right in front of a door where people come and go, and don't want to show up too often, might look conspicuous!  :laugh:

One thing I'm learning -- While heating my living room with the wood stove, looks like 2-3 days of just sitting out on top of some aluminum will fully dry them.


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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: Thorasta]
    #27000696 - 10/24/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like stuntzii to me


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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: Thorasta]
    #27104984 - 12/23/20 10:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

What ended up happening here?


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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: mcasa]
    #27105096 - 12/24/20 01:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Looks like it is a Psilocybe. Hard to say whether it’s stuntzii or not due to their condition but OP is right. If they were younger specimens a typical, but not quite key, feature would be the bluing annulus.

But to everyone else’s credit, if it’s not just weathered stuntzii, I couldn’t give a better guess. This one would be a good one for Joust.


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Re: Help with Seattle Mushroom ID please [Re: HSapiensAmericanus]
    #27106277 - 12/24/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with moria Psilocybe stuntzii the annulus on the larger pictures are unmistakable.


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