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wolf8312
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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26995662 - 10/21/20 02:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well nausea doesn't/shouldn't last long, and as I explained the purge that comes from the nausea and the transformation from sick to well again can often be beneficial -at least to me- and transformative psychologically. But YMMV and to be honest I too rarely did shrooms whole if I could help it!
But personally I would never take shrooms or any psychedelic more than once a week (or better still once a month). Even when compensating for tolerance by doubling up the next day or whatever I always found that a lot of the magic was diminished that way, kinda like HBWR extracts compared to the whole seed (now that's nausea!) experience. Just kinda missing a lot of the magic and profundity.
My point is the purge has no spiritual component, it's just puking. I don't see why people get so hung up on that thing, unless maybe it's something you enjoy. 
And no offense but I wasn't looking for advice about tripping frequency, when I do it that often (and I have a lot) it's always for a very deliberate purpose, and if I was spending that time puking and feeling sick instead of working I'd be wasting it. I understand that most people believe it affects the "magic" but it's really the only worthwhile way to go deep. I found this out years ago. 
Sorry to be so blunt but am feeling a bit off today. Now gonna go strike a blunt and chill. 
Oh yeah, I do eat fruits when I'm growing out strains to test their potency but I never trip that way. I've never actually puked with mushrooms though I get some nausea. Puking just wastes whatever you didn't digest and it isn't good for you either - I had enough for a lifetime when I had chemo. Try a proper tea (HEY HERE'S ONE) and you'll never go back.
Nah no problem man. I think years of using HBWR kinda made mushroom and Aya nausea seem utterly trivial in comparison so it never really bothered me too much, and as I mentioned in the OP, lying down because I couldn't do much else would always kind of force me to face/embrace the experience sooner rather than later.
But I think either taken whole or in a tea, much of my nausea was actually related to my own fear, and it was only by facing this fear directly (lying down and suffering) that the sickness would inevitably subside.
I always tried to resist vomiting if I could help it because I eventually came to realize that this was myself consciously or unconsciously attempting to run from the experience, to literally expel it, or at the very least distract myself from the spirits by doing something, anything to escape looking into them directly.
So I would just suffer for a while in sickness, and soon all the adrenal come up anxiety and fear/sickness would transform into genuine ecstasy and wellness. It was this part that I always loved the most but it wasn't pure ecstasy of the kind one gets with MDMA, but an ecstasy with an edge like the exhilaration of being on a roller-coaster or something.
For myself it was during this joyful/suffering stage that most of the therapeutic benefits were reaped and I honestly do believe this good/bad equilibrium is a big part of why shrooms make one feel great in the days afterwards, whereas something like MDMA would bring only horrific depression.
I don't trip these days anyway buddy but I will keep the tea in mind, as I am sure I will again one day in the future!
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nooneman


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I don't think I'll ever combine weed and psychedelics again, and not just because I quit weed. A couple of times, I briefly got some really amazing experiences out of the combination, but 99% of the time, it was a disaster. The weed just makes the experience way worse. Even when I did have a great time, I often had a horrific time immediately before and immediately after the great time, because of the weed.
Weed really makes me feel like shit when I'm on a psychedelic, it's just awful. I'll be having a really great time, nothing could possibly go wrong, and I decide to add weed to the mix, and BAM I'm having an awful time.
Also in terms of it helping with the nausea or nerves, it does exactly the opposite when combined with psychedelics in my experience.
On the other hand, I know that many long time posters here swear by the combo and won't trip without it. But for me personally, I don't ever want to touch weed again, let alone combining it with psychedelics.
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Loaded Shaman
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I smoke 1.0g-1.5g daily, and I've never felt it interfered with my trips, and I trip very infrequently.
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tyrannicalrex
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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: Hikeadellic]
#26996244 - 10/21/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hikeadellic said: Totally agree about often tripping reducing the magic. I think it makes sense to dose every full moon. Kinda like natures way of telling you its time for shit to go down.
I love tripping with a full moon. LSD too! I used to plan every trip on a full moon especially in the summer.
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