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3.5g bad trip report, demons and aliens tore me to shreds
    #26994350 - 10/20/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Ground up 3.5 into some oj last night and downed it, followed by peanut m&ms and tater tots, come up was ok, vibes were off, couldn't tell why, maybe because mom was home, was gonna fake sleep and just drift off. laid down, depth of field was completely shot by now, the other side of the room was now inside my eyeballs and the familiar grey aliens I see every trip had landed. Demons Dogs with 50 glowing, fiery orange and red eyes snarled their grotesque, rotting, decrepit jaws at me, demonic red orc-like faces with tusks and black tribalistic tattoos started to warp into reality, became a little too real for me and had to swat them out of existence a few times, glowing red and orange snake eyes were around me, i was constantly feeling attacked, the more I tried to take a good look at the fear, it just got worse and worse, I stare at these terrifying hallucinations in hopes I can convince myself to rid of them and realize that it's my own doing but instead, they look back at me and find a way to get more and more terrifying, ACDC, Highway to hell made my room feel like an elevator plummeting down into the abyss of hell, a constant fear that something is going to attack me from behind and that im being watched, smoked some bud and just lied down, i was torn apart like a machine by these aliens, like they were reprogramming me, looking at the machinery inside me, every single time i take decent sized doses, the idea of this reality is a simulation seems so real to me, an idea i never really try to think about when tripping, it always comes out forcefully and I always see the same aliens, first time this happened i made it out of the simulation and had obtained some great knowledge, i was paid by suspicious beings to forget all i had seen and to return back to the simulation, almost like that guy in the matrix who sold out his team for the fake steak. i worry that maybe these are caused by underlying mental illness, i love mushrooms and have had good trips, but also had several similar bad demonic trips with fake acid that still affect me. anyone ever have similar experiences? sorry for long ass 2 paragraph sentence.




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Re: 3.5g bad trip report, demons and aliens tore me to shreds [Re: MisterFlorida] * 1
    #26994395 - 10/20/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

There’s some scary but classic stuff in there brother. How old are you? I ask because mental health concerns are greatest in your early 20s, after that you’re relatively safe to crack on without fear.

The visions also sound quite normal; maybe you’re reading too much into it. Why not try talking to them? The elves I see are really intimidating at the come up but as the trip progresses they usually ll end up being my communal friends on some mad 3d fairground ride.

Also there’s a bit of a clue with the music. Try something a little less heavy and something more in tune with the mushrooms. You’ll get loads of recommendations here, but why not try Hawkwind, Pink Floyd, Shpongle.

Take care
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Re: 3.5g bad trip report, demons and aliens tore me to shreds [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26994427 - 10/20/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

turn 20 next month, seems this is the peak for my mental health being fragile especially with all that is going on, I avoid tripping if my week has been pretty rough, not a pro yet but will def try to get a grasp and communicate with what I encounter. how often do you trip? I know i shouldnt soil it, but i wanna go back every week it seems, probably getting some DMT soon too, ever try that?


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Re: 3.5g bad trip report, demons and aliens tore me to shreds [Re: MisterFlorida]
    #26994579 - 10/20/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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DJ Ed said:
There’s some scary but classic stuff in there brother.

mental health concerns are greatest in your early 20s,

Try something a little less heavy and something more in tune with the mushrooms. You’ll get loads of recommendations here, but why not try Hawkwind, Pink Floyd, Shpongle.

Take care
DJ Ed




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You are very suggestible when on mushrooms and thus, your music choice can vastly change your experience.

Also, your setting wasn't ideal (parent at home) and that may have affected the trip in a negative way (unless your mom knows you trip and is ok with it).

I would take it easy on these things at your age. When I was turning 20, I was thrust into my first existential crisis of age and I know I wouldn't fare well with psychedelics. I didn't have my first psychedelic experience until 25 and I'm glad I did a bit of growing up before taking that dive. This is not to say that people in their early 20s shouldn't do it, just that they should be weary, as DJ Ed said, of such a critical phase in their mental health.

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how often do you trip? I know i shouldnt soil it, but i wanna go back every week it seems,




I trip once every month, currently once every 2 months (My previous trips were early August and early October). Although I usually feel the urge to trip again the day after because I'm in such awe, once I realize I need to integrate what I've learned, that urge disappears as I become more focused on growing.

Tripping too much without learning anything from the trip (Unless your tripping for practical/problem solving reasons which could be beneficial) can lead to a loss of the "magic" not to mention tolerance (depending on frequency). Although 1-2 weeks is enough for most people to come close to baseline.

I'd suggest not rushing it. You have your entire life to trip.


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Re: 3.5g bad trip report, demons and aliens tore me to shreds [Re: MisterFlorida]
    #26994802 - 10/20/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

First couple of years every week. Until I walked myself into a psychiatric ward.

Then infrequently for about 20 years.

Then started using mushrooms in a more disciplined approach to self help depression, so  once a month or so, at 5g or slightly above.

Last couple of years turned to a slightly lower “maintenance dose” of 3.8g every two weeks. After a couple of years the after glow was lasting until the next trip: I was “happy” again.

Then the global Covid pandemic took hold, and I have not really tripped at all.

I was lucky when I was 20; my best mate wasn’t, became paranoid schizophrenic, and died young 15 years ago at age 40. Take care of yourself, and if it feels like you’re overdoing it, take a long break.

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Re: 3.5g bad trip report, demons and aliens tore me to shreds [Re: MisterFlorida]
    #26995153 - 10/20/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You are young man - this is the time to experiment.  Of course if you have some underlying mental issues, psychedelics and pot are not advisable, but that is in a very low percentage of the population.  I think that difficult trips are necessary, and it sounds like a cliche, but the mushroom always gives you what you need.  In terms of dealing with negative entities - I’ve been in a lot a lot a lot of bad places with scary creatures and spirits.  I have several techniques, some my own, some borrowed from others.  The first is a suggestion from Terrance McKenna, and that is to sing.  I made the room quite and dark, I reach up to the sky with my hands and sing row row row your boat for up to 5-10 minutes if I have to.  Eventually I just start laughing picturing how ridiculous I look.  The second, is I start to imagine that my frail and weak constitution transforms.  I adjust my posture and get on all 4’s I imagine myself as a fierce dog made of glittering diamonds, and then I do an breathing exercise, and get very aggressive breathing in and out, becoming more powerful with each breath and taunting the entities to come and claim me.  The last is that I focus my mind and try to reach out to the entity and I sent it love, and I ask, “must you be this way?”  Is there anything you can do in your power to adjust the way you are making me feel?”.  All the while beaming out love to them.  I use them in different times, but try them out, they’ve always helped me.


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Re: 3.5g bad trip report, demons and aliens tore me to shreds [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26995731 - 10/21/20 04:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Tripping too much without learning anything from the trip (Unless your tripping for practical/problem solving reasons which could be beneficial) can lead to a loss of the "magic" not to mention tolerance (depending on frequency). Although 1-2 weeks is enough for most people to come close to baseline.




I think you're looking at it the wrong way.  If you have an idea in your mind what you want to achieve, then you will always be able to interpret that.


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Re: 3.5g bad trip report, demons and aliens tore me to shreds [Re: digimite]
    #26995748 - 10/21/20 05:12 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Don't trip if your mom's home. Or at your mom's house for that matter


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Re: 3.5g bad trip report, demons and aliens tore me to shreds [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26995787 - 10/21/20 06:09 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Don't trip if your mom's home. Or at your mom's house for that matter




Unless you invite her and she is down to trip...


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