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Would you kill a moth for $100 1
#26994191 - 10/20/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello. I work in food manufacturing factory. We have strict and stringent pest protocol. I moved a wooden pallet today and a spider fell out of a crack. my first instinct was to kill it to remove the risk of it contaminating the product but i was instantly stopped with the moral issue that i'm ending that animal's life for a financial reason/benefit. I ended up getting some paper towel, picking it up and letting it go out side.
I get that not everyone is too fond of spiders. My particular situation involved a spider but this is about bugs in general, and i think months are a very neutral non threatening embodiment of said group which is why i've chosen them as the example.
Here is the question:
If for some non threatening reason there is a moth in front of you and someone with 100% legitimacy says they'll give you $100 to squish and kill the moth, would you do it?
For me personally if a bug is pissing me off i'll kill it without a second thought. If someone were to offer money however it becomes a transaction and i, i don't think i could do it under those superficial circumstances. I've been thinking about this all day and if an absurd amount of money were offered i'd probably say yes but i'd feel so guilty that i'd donate all of it to charity..
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Magenta] 1
#26994202 - 10/20/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Magenta said: For me personally if a bug is pissing me off i'll kill it without a second thought.
No. I refuse to do even this so I certainly wouldn't add the further immorality of being paid for it.
I have a strict criteria for killing, and it involves eating.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Magenta] 2
#26994226 - 10/20/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wouldn't kill a bug for $100, but I do kill a lot of things like horseflies, and mosquitos if they're after me...they're doing what they do naturally, and I'm reacting naturally. I don't see any problem in that.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Magenta] 1
#26994230 - 10/20/20 09:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Absolutely not man, not cool, and getting money for it makes it even worse. Unless you are a Hitman, or in this case a hitmoth?
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: 1234go] 1
#26994234 - 10/20/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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1234go said: I wouldn't kill a bug for $100, but I do kill a lot of things like horseflies, and mosquitos if they're after me...they're doing what they do naturally, and I'm reacting naturally. I don't see any problem in that.
Agree. I consider those things 'trying to eat me' so I've no problem killing them.
Killing things just because they're annoying me feels immoral though.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: fraki58] 1
#26994235 - 10/20/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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While ending innocent life is bad and all, you can argue that bugs like that are pests and need to be dealt with. If you have rats in your house, you would want to do what you can to get rid of them.
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Jokeshopbeard said: Agree. I consider those things 'trying to eat me' so I've no problem killing them.
Killing things just because they're annoying me feels immoral though.
It's kinda situational. Like...if I was outside, and it was muggy, hot & humid...I'm sweatin' bullets, and there's this flying insect that won't stop buzzing around my ear. I'd probably feel like enough is enough, and swat the thing. I'd feel bad about it, though.
However - On a cool, windy day...having a beer with some friends on the porch I'd probably just be waving it away, or hardly even notice at all.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 5
#26994263 - 10/20/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Magenta said: For me personally if a bug is pissing me off i'll kill it without a second thought.
No. I refuse to do even this so I certainly wouldn't add the further immorality of being paid for it.
I have a strict criteria for killing, and it involves eating.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Magenta]
#26994283 - 10/20/20 10:28 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trippy, bruh. Offering the $100 makes me not want to squish it. I let them out anyways since I’m in and out of the place at night and a moth will get in. They’re easy to cup and hold.
Pretty much any bug I would squish for $100 I would squish for free so whoever is making the offer would be wise just to ask me to squish it first and save $100.
Things like jumping spiders, praying mantis and lady bugs etc I’m not going to squish.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Amanita86]
#26994293 - 10/20/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I’d pay $150 per moth I get to kill
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Amanita86]
#26994300 - 10/20/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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wtf more people wouldnt squish a moth then blend a cat, like in Asantes thread, Id squish a moth for free, our apple tree had like 1000 caterpillers, they ate every single leaf on the tree, then they all turned to moths at the same time, for like 2 weeks I couldnt look outside without seeing like 50 flying around, about 1 every 2 days would squeeze through the crack between the AC and my window and id squish it in my room, I dont think moths are really a better example then spiders
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: koods]
#26994302 - 10/20/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would fuck that moth up. Send me the cash up front and I'll kill as many that you pay me for.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: koods]
#26994303 - 10/20/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why is there a correlation between willingness to kill a bug, and the size of the bug.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Malkuthian]
#26994338 - 10/20/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you get to choose which moth dies? Moth Hitler perhaps? Or that cucklet from the dmv, Moth Craig?
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Yeetusdeetus] 1
#26994342 - 10/20/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Patlal]
#26994362 - 10/20/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Niffla]
#26994367 - 10/20/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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.....but I WOULD however kill mosquitos.......for free
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: spirit_shadow] 1
#26994442 - 10/20/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd kill the moth, then when the guy pulled his wallet out, I'd bonk him on teh hed and take his wallet.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Baby_Hitler] 1
#26994456 - 10/20/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moths are cute.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: SonicTitan] 1
#26994516 - 10/20/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I want to kill at least 10 per day if we have a secure payment plan. Will I get a 1099 form?
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26994838 - 10/20/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Magenta said: For me personally if a bug is pissing me off i'll kill it without a second thought.
No. I refuse to do even this so I certainly wouldn't add the further immorality of being paid for it.
I have a strict criteria for killing, and it involves eating.
This is pathetic and probably why you are depressed. I just set a cup of apple sider vinegar out and put 2 drops of liquid soap in it because my wife kept some bananas too long and we had a lot of fruit flies, there are about 100 in this 1 cup and 100 in the cup down stairs.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: budmanman]
#26994875 - 10/20/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: SonicTitan] 3
#26994957 - 10/20/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: budmanman]
#26994964 - 10/20/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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budmanman said: I just set a cup of apple sider vinegar out and put 2 drops of liquid soap in it because my wife kept some bananas too long and we had a lot of fruit flies, there are about 100 in this 1 cup and 100 in the cup down stairs.
A little dish full of beer is supposed to be great for controlling slugs in the garden. I've been tempted to try it, but I don't have any food growing...so it hasn't been necessary.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: 1234go]
#26995009 - 10/20/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hear it attracts slugs more than it deters them lol
Moths have it rough man, a lot of species bust out the cocoon without mouths and starve to death a week later
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: 1234go]
#26995099 - 10/20/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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SonicTitan said: Moths are cute.
Moths are absolutely gorgeous insects. Majestic even.
For $100 a pop I would burn them all with a magnifying glass.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Patlal]
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Patlal]
#26995183 - 10/20/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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1234go said:
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SonicTitan said: Moths are cute.
Moths are absolutely gorgeous insects. Majestic even.
For $100 a pop I would burn them all with a magnifying glass.
This is still a better idea than being a pro poker player
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: koods]
#26995666 - 10/21/20 03:02 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I did already ask: "Why is there a correlation between willingness to kill a bug, and the size of the bug."
Now I ask:
"Why is there a correlation between willingness to kill a bug, and the cuteness of the bug."
And moths come in different grades of cuteness

Who here would kill a ugly moth eating your clothes?
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Malkuthian]
#26995679 - 10/21/20 03:22 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just any moth of my choosing? Because I pretty much had to kill dozens of moths a few years ago somehow the house I was in had a mad infestation of moths all of the sudden, - they were cute at first and I tried to dispose of them gently - but I simply could not keep up with them

One day I entered the house after having been gone a few weeks and there were like 40 moth larvae crawling up the walls to make cocoons .. lil worms like this

That wasn't really cute anymore, it just got disgusting and annoying and they actually started to do real damage to our clothes it took some serious moth killing to get rid of them over the next 4 months as they were actually quite hard to figure out where they were breeding and feeding. I think it mostly had to do with me having like 20 canvases hanging on my wall (I'm an artist) and they were able to use the backings as nooks to breed in... so it was hard to erradicate! :'(
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: twighead] 1
#26995814 - 10/21/20 06:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have the same kind of moths in my house. I didn't used to mind, but seeing those little cocoons everywhere started to get to me. The herd must be culled.
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Magenta said: For me personally if a bug is pissing me off i'll kill it without a second thought.
No. I refuse to do even this so I certainly wouldn't add the further immorality of being paid for it.
I have a strict criteria for killing, and it involves eating.
eating and pest control for me so id kill the moth.
and self defense of course. and invasive species like a fish that you legally must kill and cant throw back.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#26996062 - 10/21/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would smack that moth, take the 100 bucks and Donate two goats to two families in developing nations.
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In addition to that, goats eat what humans can't eat and turn it into milk, meat and more goats to sell.
I can live with having squished an insect in exchange for getting 2 families in need a "cash cow", or in this case, cash goat.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Magenta]
#26996063 - 10/21/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I honestly don't think I could do it if it was one of those cool Luna or Emperor moths. Yeah, I'm one of those people that for whatever reason assigns more heft to bigger bugs when deciding whether or not to kill them. They're just so majestic, you know? 
The GF hates spiders to an irrational degree, but I go along with her and usually just smash them but I'll usually put them outside if it's just me. Stuff like wasps or horseflies get smashed even for slight infractions like flying too close or being around me.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: THT]
#26996068 - 10/21/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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But the ugly moths can go fuck themselves is what you're saying?
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Magenta]
#26996114 - 10/21/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don’t know about y’all, but I have done a lot worse for less
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Asante]
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But the ugly moths can go fuck themselves is what you're saying? 
Yes.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: THT]
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I live in the tropics and would be forever killing moths for $100 a pop, could kill 1000 per day and it wouldn't dent the population but would make me uber rich. I let predatory bugs live in my house (huntsman spiders, mantids) and bait roaches, moths and flies. If I didn't they'd just take over and ruin everything. Same as outside I poison termites, trap mozzies and March flies, and make life generally hard for tree ants that try to nest on my good trees. But I'm not going around looking for things to kill, I'm just trying to keep the pest creatures under control. Don't think I'd kill a mantis or a spider for cash though, would definitely not kill a snake or any other native creature unless it was becoming a pest. Creatures that are invasive and destructive to the forest are instantly on the kill list though. Feral pigs, cats and rabbits... line em up so I can mow em down. No payment required.
I trapped inside and released outside a wolf spider the other day. He's a bit dangerous to just let him roam about. Might give someone a nasty nip.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Northerner]
#26996636 - 10/21/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Generally wolf spiders are not aggressive but if someone startled it I bet it would give a good bite.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: SonicTitan] 1
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Totally. I have kids and animals too, the little guy is better off outside.
Got a big ass huntsman spider roaming my home at the moment, he's been around for about a month. We see him most nights. Even if I wanted him out I don't know how I could do it without killing him. So fast and so timid, almost impossible to catch. If I turn the lights off and watch a movie with my legs up on the couch he loves it. Scoots around and around the loungeroom floor looking for prey. There's often a resident huntsman or two in my home but this guy is the biggest that has stayed in years. Much bigger than the palm of my hand. Clever too, if you look right at him he'll hide. I guess you don't get to be a big ass spider by being dumb.
I wonder how many roaches and other shitty bugs this guy eats. He expends a lot of energy running around so I guess it's quite a few.
Some years back there was a huge one on the glass door protecting a sac. Then out of nowhere another huge one rocks up, eats her, splits the sac and eats as many of the little ones it could before they got away. Was so gory, all this spider juice and blobs running down the window.
I wouldn't kill a cool moth though. We get Hercules moths here, they're the biggest moths in the world. Bat/moth thing. Very cool creatures. Harmless and beautiful.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: 1234go] 2
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The top one looks like its waving hello haha
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: SonicTitan] 2
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Kill a moth for a 100 bucks? Im way more interested in knowing why they want to see me kill a moth so bad. If getting me to kill the moth will benefit mankind i could justify doing it that one time for the 100 bucks.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: SonicTitan] 1
#26996905 - 10/21/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I thought so, too...or like it just did a trick, and it's going "ta-da!" ....so cute. I'd snuggle with both of em..
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: trees]
#26996938 - 10/21/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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trees said: Kill a moth for a 100 bucks? Im way more interested in knowing why they want to see me kill a moth so bad. If getting me to kill the moth will benefit mankind i could justify doing it that one time for the 100 bucks.
Perhaps it's a moth doctor who can no longer face the pain of euthanizing moths. The night terrors and general derealization from setting moths free from their mortal chains has just become too much.
Or maybe it's a setup for an assassination. After the moth the creatures you are going to be requested to kill are going to get incrementally bigger and bigger, all the while desensitizing you to death, until you're knocking off politicians for a hundred bucks a pop.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Magenta]
#26996982 - 10/21/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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No. I don't really value money. $100 is nothing anyway. Why bother? If I saw $100 sitting across the street on the ground, I wouldn't even be tempted to get out and pick it up. I could easily burn $100 and feel nothing. It's a very small amount of money anyway.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: nooneman] 2
#26997024 - 10/21/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Amanita86]
#26997203 - 10/22/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wolf spiders aren’t the largest but they do that thing where they carry their babies on their back. Sprayed one in the kitchen one time not realizing there were hundreds of babies right on top. A bunch bolted off in every direction and I shit myself. Some of the babies even knew to make a b-line to the big bitch and run up the legs
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Magenta]
#26997209 - 10/22/20 12:36 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why is it immoral to kill a moth. Fuck a moth, they aint thinkin bout shit.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Near Dylan] 3
#26997652 - 10/22/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its not immoral its just when your intelligence reaches a certain level it doesnt feel right at all to kill anything thats just minding its own business, especially if it has 2 visible eyes and the act of crushing it produces auditory crushing sounds and vibrations and possible muscular resistance from the living thing.
If you havent reached that level of intelligence yet well, you just still need to be supervised by a parent and prevented from killing things, and a motherly figure needs to instill compassion into your brain. I highly suspect that you lack the intelligence to not kill insects.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: trees]
#26997688 - 10/22/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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trees said: Its not immoral its just when your intelligence reaches a certain level [...] especially if it has 2 visible eyes
Intelligence? As your comment about the eyes suggest, empathy is the relevant factor, not intelligence. The fact that we have evolved to react with more empathy toward our young has caused us to case more for animals with eyes that resemble our young. One might call the empathy towards the moth eyes an evolutionary miss-step...
However, don't agree with intentionally killing something just minding its own business. I think it shows a lack of respect. Kinda like your high-and-mighty post, putting down people as lacking intelligence...
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Malkuthian]
#26998250 - 10/22/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moths arent people
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Near Dylan]
#26998491 - 10/22/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Near Dylan]
#26998549 - 10/22/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Northerner]
#26998720 - 10/22/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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How many moths does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None. Moths don’t care about light bulbs that aren’t screwed in.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: koods]
#26998941 - 10/23/20 12:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would absolutely kill a moth for $100, unless it was some protected species, I would kill many.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Ezuma]
#26998969 - 10/23/20 01:01 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can I watch from the corner?
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: trees] 2
#26999293 - 10/23/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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trees said: Its not immoral its just when your intelligence reaches a certain level it doesnt feel right at all to kill anything thats just minding its own business, especially if it has 2 visible eyes and the act of crushing it produces auditory crushing sounds and vibrations and possible muscular resistance from the living thing.
If you havent reached that level of intelligence yet well, you just still need to be supervised by a parent and prevented from killing things, and a motherly figure needs to instill compassion into your brain. I highly suspect that you lack the intelligence to not kill insects.
Intelligent people realize that moths aint shit and will die in like an hour anyway. They aint got thoughts or emotions bruh they might as well be a robot. You'd have to be a full retard to avoid killing a moth out of 'empathy'. Youre empathizing with emotions that do not exist. I wouldnt kill one for no reason but if there was a reason then I wouldnt hesitate and anyone that does has a mental illness tbh and should lay off the acid
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Near Dylan] 3
#26999300 - 10/23/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moths are not a threat. There is no reason to kill things that are alive that are not immediate threats. Anyone who says otherwise are the real people with mental issues
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Near Dylan] 1
#26999305 - 10/23/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or lay off the greed for money instead?
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: SonicTitan]
#26999308 - 10/23/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone that would kill a moth for fucking paper is the reason aliens don't fuck with us
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: spirit_shadow] 3
#26999361 - 10/23/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Near Dylan said: Intelligent people realize that moths aint shit and will die in like an hour anyway. They aint got thoughts or emotions bruh they might as well be a robot. You'd have to be a full retard to avoid killing a moth out of 'empathy'. Youre empathizing with emotions that do not exist. I wouldnt kill one for no reason but if there was a reason then I wouldnt hesitate and anyone that does has a mental illness tbh and should lay off the acid
Some moths live for a year anyway. How about a kitten youd kill kittens too im sure and even dogs aswell. Because how can you tell if the moth is alive if it cant tell you? Neither can the dog or cat. Neither can a baby human, youd be one of those guys in war time that just kills anything that moves. Youre murderous at the core, and youre miserable in every thread youve ever posted in. Probably correllated
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: trees]
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Stupid logic. Cats and dogs have feelings. Moths are bugs. Fuck bugs.
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spirit_shadow said: Anyone that would kill a moth for fucking paper is the reason aliens don't fuck with us 
our species does so much worse, our entire social structure and participation in it directly and indirectly ruins human lives, kills people, wipes out species constantly, and actively poisons the ecosystems of the entire planet. Killing a few individual members of plentiful, short-lived non-sentient species has close to zero ethical baggage on its own, let alone contrasted with the horrible Rube Golberg contraption we all participate in.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Ezuma] 2
#26999784 - 10/23/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Next these dudes are gonna say that pulling weeds is unethical because it's a living thing
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Near Dylan]
#26999789 - 10/23/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Save a tomato, eat a cow :p
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: koods]
#26999794 - 10/23/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Can I watch from the corner?
only if i get extra $
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: spirit_shadow] 2
#26999800 - 10/23/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think we need more context, here. Are we talking about a wealthy old man with a heart condition, who is deathly terrified of moths? Then sure, I'll kill moths for him all day. Is it some weirdo who gets off on watching overweight middle-aged guys killing moths? I'd pass on that one.
It's not about the moth.
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This shit is bigger than the moth. Open your eyes sheeple!
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The moth knows too much! It had to be taken out!
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Near Dylan said: Intelligent people realize that moths aint shit and will die in like an hour anyway. They aint got thoughts or emotions bruh they might as well be a robot. You'd have to be a full retard to avoid killing a moth out of 'empathy'. Youre empathizing with emotions that do not exist. I wouldnt kill one for no reason but if there was a reason then I wouldnt hesitate and anyone that does has a mental illness tbh and should lay off the acid
Some moths live for a year anyway. How about a kitten youd kill kittens too im sure and even dogs aswell. Because how can you tell if the moth is alive if it cant tell you? Neither can the dog or cat. Neither can a baby human, youd be one of those guys in war time that just kills anything that moves. Youre murderous at the core, and youre miserable in every thread youve ever posted in. Probably correllated
>Post saying that i would kill dogs and cats, would commit war crimes, am murderous at the core and miserable, because I would kill a bug if i had to > gets upvoted twice
What is wrong with yall lmao. Absolutely unhinged.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Baby_Hitler] 1
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Whats minimum wage in the US?
Lets say you;re in Colorado, one of the nicer minimum wage states cause its $12/hour there.
8 hours in a work day...
$100 represents a full work day on minimum wage in Colorado.
For squashing a bug.
Since everybody is pussyfooting around the subject, set loose 100,000 of the prettiest most adorable moths in a greenhouse and I'll toss in a couple bug bombs and collect my cash.

I got plans with the world. Not for my sake but for the sake of others and the wellbeing of the planet.
For that, not my own vanity, can I use the $10M if not more.
The world will be better off with me holding 10 million than with 100,000 moths. People destroy yellowjacket hives, fire ant hills, roach and termite infestations and don't think twice - then when a bug is cute all of a sudden the game changes?
You can take 10 million to developing nations and give 15,000 villages of ~1300+ people their own water well. That means providing 20 million people with a source of water they wont have to walk miles for 5 times a day and that wont give em cholera, typhoid, amoebic dysentry, bilharzia and other water based illness. Because of this, over 20 million people are now freed up to get a job and 250,000 kids can now attend school because they dont have to haul water across long distances multiple times a day, every day.
Hell yes I'd bug bomb or flamethrow 100,000 cute moths for that.
Offended? Become a strict Vegan and you can be offended, because right now nature and countless HIGHER animals like fowl, livestock etc are tortured and killed so you can be an omnivore.
We got blood on our hands, all of us, and many things we do leed to unseen suffering and death. One might as well fumigate a greenhouse full of moths or cockroaches if that unsavoury job bestows upon you the means to vastly improve the world in mere months.
Forget about the Benjamin...
What would you rather do, clean toilets for 8 hours or step on a pretty bug?
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Near Dylan] 2
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Near Dylan said: Intelligent people realize that moths aint shit and will die in like an hour anyway. They aint got thoughts or emotions bruh they might as well be a robot. You'd have to be a full retard to avoid killing a moth out of 'empathy'. Youre empathizing with emotions that do not exist. I wouldnt kill one for no reason but if there was a reason then I wouldnt hesitate and anyone that does has a mental illness tbh and should lay off the acid
Some moths live for a year anyway. How about a kitten youd kill kittens too im sure and even dogs aswell. Because how can you tell if the moth is alive if it cant tell you? Neither can the dog or cat. Neither can a baby human, youd be one of those guys in war time that just kills anything that moves. Youre murderous at the core, and youre miserable in every thread youve ever posted in. Probably correllated
>Post saying that i would kill dogs and cats, would commit war crimes, am murderous at the core and miserable, because I would kill a bug if i had to > gets upvoted twice
What is wrong with yall lmao. Absolutely unhinged.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Ezuma]
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Moths are people too, like cockroaches and termites. Not much more though.
They die, they reincarnate to a better life.
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Asante said: Moths are people too, like cockroaches and termites. Not much more though.
They die, they reincarnate to a better life.
I don't believe this, about bugs or humans, but I still think killing bugs is pretty close to a non-issue.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Ezuma]
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What do I prefer, 100,000 moths to live or 20,000,000 people having access to clean water and being able to make more of their lives in the most underdeveloped regions of the earth?
Its a nonissue. I'd kill a million moths to save a child.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Near Dylan]
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What is wrong with yall lmao. Absolutely unhinged.
Ill admit it is too tempting to shit on you in particular at every opportunity. Not sure 100% why. Probably started from all what i read from you in the pics of Hot thread. Ive deemed it not immoral to do so in your case
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: trees]
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If you live in the inland desert area of California you are very familiar with ants and mosquitoes and all sorts of bugs. what the fuck kind of an animal goes into another animal's habitat not expecting to be killed? Get the fuck out of my house bitch. Any fucking insect I find in my house I fucking kill it. I do it for free. I don't fucking care about the moral aspect of it. There's billions of other insects on the planet it's not like I'm doing the planet a disservice or anyting. I'm also a nihilist so there is no purpose to life, especially an insect's life who chooses to make a habitat in my home.
Rat season is coming up too so I'm going to be killing some rats and setting up some poison. Fuck life. Fuck biology. Fuck purpose. life is just a game and it's all a Phantasm.
When I kill bugs I try to use my blow torch so then I can watch them fucking suffer when their legs shake. The easiest way to kill a stubborn fly or mosquito is to get it with a blowtorch. You might think this is torture but who is getting tortured more? The fly that has turned my house into his or me the person who has to deal with the fucking fly flying all over the place? This is a non-issue. Karma. Die insect!
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Near Dylan]
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Maintaining a yard at a house is like trying to control the population of China. I'm at the point where I really don't care anymore and I will actively kill ANY PLANT if I have to maintain it more than once a month besides watering. Rose bushes.. dead. Grass... Dead. Pine tree... Dead. Invasive plant species... Dead.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Asante]
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Hell, grunt work hanging gypsy moth traps in the early summer for the forest service pays $15+/hr.
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I will kill nothing for any amount of paper. There are other ways to save a child asante
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Magenta]
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Nope I seriously try to avoid harming any beings intentionally or even wishing/thinking for harm to happen if they annoy or harm me. Even if you are defending yourself or the life of another you do not need to wish for the harm or ruination of the afflicting being. If you induge in those thoughts it can only lead to the proliferation of these thoughts in the future.
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Ok hippie
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Near Dylan]
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Mornin', Dylan....you're worthwhile, bro.
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Save a moth hug a Dylan
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: 1234go] 1
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Someone I care about? I already established that in the blend a kitten thread 
Edit: not just the people I care about but also anyone who is not a rapist or cold blooded murderer etc.(I'd only take a life to save a life)
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To further squish this thread:
I have an Ivorian (Ivory Coast) online friend who's a university student. Because of extreme violence surrounding the elections, he and 7 friends fled to Liberia, his mother fled in another direction and his father got arrested.
So his father's in custody, so "sorta ok", his mother has managed to lend some money to keep on the good side of things and the 8 of them are now in a neighboring country, shacked up in the cheapest place they could rent and are now praying a hole in the ozone layer that the violence in their home country wanes in 1-2 weeks so they can return and pick up the pieces. They're sleeping on the ground and eat the bare minimum to stretch what they got as long as it goes. A hundred dollars is a full month's minimum wage in Liberia.
Do you think they'd squish that bug?
I would, if it magically got them the $100.
They're an inventive bunch, university students, they'll come up with something.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: To further squish this thread:
I have an Ivorian (Ivory Coast) online friend who's a university student. Because of extreme violence surrounding the elections, he and 7 friends fled to Liberia, his mother fled in another direction and his father got arrested.
So his father's in custody, so "sorta ok", his mother has managed to lend some money to keep on the good side of things and the 8 of them are now in a neighboring country, shacked up in the cheapest place they could rent and are now praying a hole in the ozone layer that the violence in their home country wanes in 1-2 weeks so they can return and pick up the pieces. They're sleeping on the ground and eat the bare minimum to stretch what they got as long as it goes. A hundred dollars is a full month's minimum wage in Liberia.
Do you think they'd squish that bug?
I would, if it magically got them the $100.
They're an inventive bunch, university students, they'll come up with something.
Ok then $1200, a year of wage to smash a baby kitten or puppy? If you try to tear of the moth's wing it will try to get away from you if you try to tear off the puppies or kittens leg it will try to get away from you. Both are either automata that are essentially just robots no harm done or both have a conciseness that perceives injury in them and flees in fear... just like if someone were to try to tear your leg off it would cause great distress even if you didn't speak a language.
If you wouldn't intentionally smash a human for financial gain then why do the same to a being that may have a conciseness experience similar to yours.
http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2015/can-flies-feel-fear/
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Is this an example of an emotional response? Only a small fraction of flies show the hopping behavior, and the increase in the intensity of movement to a stronger stimulus is relatively small. However, the behavior’s persistence is clearly not due to a reflex, lending their hypothesis some credibility. Additionally, this study is one of the first attempts at developing a paradigm that allows us to study and talk about emotions in a scientifically rigorous way, and deserves praise for that. Model organisms are our best chance at understanding the biology behind emotions, and if we don’t have a reliable tool for discussing and evaluating emotions in these animals, we have no hope of making sense of feelings in ourselves.
Just think about the fact that something in you which you consider to be yourself experiences things like fear and joy and that creates a bodily response. So a being even a moth or fly must have some such being in them that drives them to action based on their biology and environment. Why intentionally harm such a being if you can avoid doing so?
This is just a thought experiment I can't blame you for your reasoning of why you would do it but I really don't think I would make the choice to do it.
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Idk if ive ever seen someone seriosuly entertain one of Asante's posts
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Eggtimer]
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I'm not saying insects don't have feelings, I think they do, but being squashed is a good way to go if you're a moth, and there's a conceivable higher purpose that outweighs the swift merciful death of a moth.
In some places they eat dogs and cats, and why should I emphathize more with a dog or cat than with a pig? Pigs are much more psychologically complex, just less suitable to pet in your lap.
I believe in sacrifice for the greater good. Most often, it is me self sacrificing for a greater good outside of myself in that equasion.
See this beautiful red rooster?

While my best friend was holding him I took his head into my hand and at once severed his neck, so we could eat him at Christmas.
If you can't bring yourself to do that you have no business eating meat.
Its murder, absolutely, just like your leather belt and shoes.
It was a very unpleasant affair, to slaughter the rooster. The amount of meat I eat has diminished since as i lean stronger and stronger towards vegetarianism.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Asante]
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If the 100 dollars went to people in distress/need...sure.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Asante]
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Dogs are bred to be a companion of humans. It's their domesticated purpose. Pigs and chickens were domesticated as food. That's the difference. Doesnt take a psychology degree.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Magenta] 1
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I ate a moth for $5 dollars in my youth so . . .
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Near Dylan]
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Dogs are bred for a variety of reasons. Hunting, fighting, racing, dog shows...
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: 1234go]
#27003884 - 10/26/20 12:05 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why don't we kill chickens by dipping them in a vat of liquid hydrogen? It would be like the carbon freezing of Han Solo
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Moths aren't innocuous creatures. Certain species are really problematic in agriculture. Kill them all!
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Bikerfool]
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: 1234go]
#27004407 - 10/26/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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1234go said: Would you kill a moth to save a Dylan?
Can I keep him afterwards?
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No. He's a peacock, Sonic...you gotta let him fly.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: 1234go]
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I always move bugs and spiders outside unless they are a threat to me, example is a mosquito or a brown recluse spider. Thankfully, I don't have any recluses in my house but they are very common where I live.
Edit : I would feel bad if I killed the moth for money. Maybe that's a flaw, but it's just the way I feel.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Near Dylan]
#27004591 - 10/26/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Near Dylan said: Dogs are bred to be a companion of humans.
Or food, depending on were you are from.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: twighead]
#27004783 - 10/26/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moths suck. If killing a moth is immoral then I am already doomed to hades. So I'll take the $100 I guess at this point.
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Magenta said: For me personally if a bug is pissing me off i'll kill it without a second thought.
No. I refuse to do even this so I certainly wouldn't add the further immorality of being paid for it.
I have a strict criteria for killing, and it involves eating.
Don't you use money to eat? Personally, I don't find a reason not to do it. I'm not some holy man living a holy life separate from the material world. I would draw the line somewhere in the reptiles and amphibians, maybe some insects if they are beautiful and not complete pests.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: InnerWisdom] 1
#27004816 - 10/26/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why would you use money to eat, like do you wrap your food in a dollar bill and lick it off of it? gross
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: lillFish]
#27004828 - 10/26/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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lillFish said: I always move bugs and spiders outside unless they are a threat to me, example is a mosquito or a brown recluse spider. Thankfully, I don't have any recluses in my house but they are very common where I live.
I try to do the same, but I don't always end up making the compassionate decision.
For example, I was taking the sheets off of my bed one day, and out falls this big ass recluse from where I had the sheet tucked under the mattress...just hangin' out in there. I swear it was at least 2 inches across, and I was too shocked to help it outside.
They're typically pretty small spiders, but maybe they can grow larger, and even live longer indoors? They wouldn't have any predators in there aside from an occasional re-headed centipede.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Magenta]
#27004841 - 10/26/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Magenta said: Hello. I work in food manufacturing factory. We have strict and stringent pest protocol. I moved a wooden pallet today and a spider fell out of a crack. my first instinct was to kill it to remove the risk of it contaminating the product but i was instantly stopped with the moral issue that i'm ending that animal's life for a financial reason/benefit. I ended up getting some paper towel, picking it up and letting it go out side.
I get that not everyone is too fond of spiders. My particular situation involved a spider but this is about bugs in general, and i think months are a very neutral non threatening embodiment of said group which is why i've chosen them as the example. 100 bucks??? HAHAHA i would do that shit for free if you asked me
Here is the question:
If for some non threatening reason there is a moth in front of you and someone with 100% legitimacy says they'll give you $100 to squish and kill the moth, would you do it?
For me personally if a bug is pissing me off i'll kill it without a second thought. If someone were to offer money however it becomes a transaction and i, i don't think i could do it under those superficial circumstances. I've been thinking about this all day and if an absurd amount of money were offered i'd probably say yes but i'd feel so guilty that i'd donate all of it to charity..
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Saul Ptamets]
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ill kill flies by trapping them in a glass jar and stuffing a papertowl in there and lighting it on fire. I hate most bugs. I don't like to kill ladybugs or mantis' or something that is cool or cute. I wont kill a butterfly either but for $100 u would see me be the richest man in the world haha
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Saul Ptamets]
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speaking of letting spiders outdoors, I read once that outdoor spiders dont do well indoors and indoor spiders dont do well outdoors, I dont know how true that is, but it stuck with me
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: gopher]
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gopher said: speaking of letting spiders outdoors, I read once that outdoor spiders dont do well indoors and indoor spiders dont do well outdoors, I dont know how true that is, but it stuck with me
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gopher said: speaking of letting spiders outdoors, I read once that outdoor spiders dont do well indoors and indoor spiders dont do well outdoors, I dont know how true that is, but it stuck with me
That could be true. Would u just let that spider stay in your house though just so u don't have to feel bad about killing it? i say no. And it could probably get in your house again anyway
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Saul Ptamets]
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no I kill spiders, theres lots of wolf spiders here and it creeps me out how fast they are, and my basement is infested with skull spiders and they can get pretty big
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Asante said: I'm not saying insects don't have feelings, I think they do, but being squashed is a good way to go if you're a moth, and there's a conceivable higher purpose that outweighs the swift merciful death of a moth.
In some places they eat dogs and cats, and why should I emphathize more with a dog or cat than with a pig? Pigs are much more psychologically complex, just less suitable to pet in your lap.
I believe in sacrifice for the greater good. Most often, it is me self sacrificing for a greater good outside of myself in that equasion.
See this beautiful red rooster?

While my best friend was holding him I took his head into my hand and at once severed his neck, so we could eat him at Christmas.
If you can't bring yourself to do that you have no business eating meat.
Its murder, absolutely, just like your leather belt and shoes.
It was a very unpleasant affair, to slaughter the rooster. The amount of meat I eat has diminished since as i lean stronger and stronger towards vegetarianism.
I only used cat or dog as an example because people in the west tend to think of killing them as untenable but will still eat cattle or pigs without thinking of it. I don't eat meat mainly because factory farming in the US of course dairy products can still cause a lot of brutality to the animals with our modern methods even just vegetables many small rodents are killed in planting and harvest many insects also. If it was the only option and I was starving I would probably have to eat meat but as long as I have the option I will not intentionally kill/harm or have it done on my behalf knowingly.
Partly because I wouldn't want this done to me and I have no idea how this being ended up here and that being ended up there. The other part being selfish based on the idea of not generating bad kamma if that's not total make believe. Even if that's not quite real at least in this life generating impressions of killing and violence in the neural pathways probably isn't the greatest for achieving some deep tranquility nor is eating meat while in your inmost self thinking you probably shouldn't be doing it which is why I quit. Couldn't stop thinking that a being died probably in misery and horrible conditions in a painful and traumatic death just so I could enjoy a short lasting mouth pleasue not even for survival.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Eggtimer]
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Totally Agree with Asante there about the killing. We are too distanced from the animals that end up on our plate. Obviously. It's a problem similar to being so distanced from the effects of our consumerism culture and scale of materialism.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: InnerWisdom]
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I kill my brain cells for far less than $100
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: SonicTitan]
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Fuckin fine then.....somebody give me a moth and a $100
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Thank God. We're finally back to this riveting conversation.
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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#27021995 - 11/04/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't.
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Near Dylan
Shitpost Artist


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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: kneesocks]
#27022249 - 11/04/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow, its only getting more and more exciting
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InnerWisdom


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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: kneesocks]
#27023179 - 11/05/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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kneesocks said: I wouldn't.
      
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spirit_shadow
Feature not a bug



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Re: Would you kill a moth for $100 [Re: InnerWisdom]
#27023224 - 11/05/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd kill everything but the moth then we'd blow the joint and go to like a dave and buster's or something then take dabs all day
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