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InvisibleNecroMyce
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Harvesting with contams
    #26993788 - 10/19/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

So I know where I messed up on this run. My substrate was way to wet, I didn’t fruit soon enough, causing really wet humid soaking wet conditions, which also I had to drain my tubs daily for about a week until enough evaporation occurred and basically all the way until pinning. But hey they pulled through. I have trich in a few tubs, might be hard to tell in the pics. Just wanting to know what you all think? Can I only get 1 flush? So I just monitor the trich and if it doesn’t spread on the surface I should be good? Or will it still grow inside the sub where you can’t see? Or is the mycelium in a all out digit for survival war with the trich and holding it back. Anyone see any cobweb?


Also can I harvest specific shrooms as they mature? Or is it better to harvest the entire tub at once? Even if they are smaller? I want to get some more yield out of those tiny tiny pins everywhere! This is mazatapec strain from spore inoc. I know this is why all the different genetics, but I feel like they should be a little taller. The tubs have white lids and I have the light on the sides of the tubs so some get really good light from the side, and some get decent light. I’ve read that light really doesn’t matter too too much, it is needed tho.

each pic is a different tub


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Re: Harvesting with contams [Re: NecroMyce]
    #26993815 - 10/19/20 11:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You don't have the worst pin set I've ever seen; actually most peeps early in their growing careers do much worse! If you had to drain your tubs of excess water (yes?), and youn are still rockin pin sets like in your pics, I would say you got nuthin' to worry about.

If you think your moisture or humidity  is still on the high side, just a curiosity peek (taking the cover off), every day, along with yer polyfil monotub set up you already have, should allow you to get more than one flush. I don't see any trich in yer pics. If YOU do, don't worry about it; it is not uncommon to get a bit of trich in even the best of grows (but in the later stages i.e. after a few rockin' flushes). Trich is a bitch especially early on because it can stop a pin set and you won't get even one flush -which ain't yer problem.
IMO, you are doing fine -channel any concerns you have about your present grow into yer next one. Everybody tweeks their methods because it's part of the fun! I think you are doing fine so far :headbang::mushroom2:.


Edited by scarabaeus (10/19/20 11:19 PM)


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Re: Harvesting with contams [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26993837 - 10/19/20 11:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks bud. My main concern is harvesting around the trich. And wondering why they are growing short and not to tall before the veil breaks. They are 2-4in right now. Wouldn’t hurt to wait a few more days, or can I harvest as needed? Or all in one “flush”


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Re: Harvesting with contams [Re: NecroMyce]
    #26993845 - 10/19/20 11:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I hear what you are saying -all I can say without being there is that there is no rush to get them all in one pick. If I can't see trich from your pic, it ain;t that bad (yet). At least in your two (l to right pics). If your right side pic shrooms seem to be stunted, well, I would just wait a day or so to see if they are REALLY stalled, or just slow to grow because of something other than a contam problem.

Also, trich is not poisonous in any way to us talking monkeys, so don't worry about THAT aspect. I hope this helps a bit and good luck amigo.


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Re: Harvesting with contams [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26993852 - 10/20/20 12:04 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Oh yeah. It is common practice to pick 'em before the veil breaks -unless you are growing for spores. Personally, if I need a spore print I always wait until the last flush and let the biggest mushy in the tub mature. I let the veil break big time in that case.

Mushrooms need water to grow to their full potential. Do you think maybe yoy over did it worrying about too much moisture causing contams, and now your tubs are too dry? IDK, but something to think about?


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Re: Harvesting with contams [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26993857 - 10/20/20 12:10 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The pics are kinda shitty I didn’t realize that. All my
Tubs have fuzzy feet, which means not enough FAE, I believe. Also there is millions of water droplets on the sub, it looks wet not dry. And I usually harvest right as the veil breaks, If I have a even pinset and they mature evenly and all veils start to break I’ll harvest it all, but in this case, I have mainly pins, and tons of 1-2inch babies, but I have 3-5 large guys that veils are breaking or already broken, also I noticed a shroom with no cap! Look at the pics lol, started looking and found 2-4 like that. And some that have pimple looking growth on the caps, like a boil, doesn’t look unhealthy. And the trich started growing then once pins came, it halted completely. And are you sure if I pick a shroom next to the trich that looks healthy you should be alright? Google
Time lol


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Re: Harvesting with contams [Re: NecroMyce]
    #26993874 - 10/20/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The chances of you coming across the one species of toxic trich that exists is like getting struck by lightning after crawling onto the beach with one leg because a shark bit the  other one off when you were surfing with Miley Cyrus.  Even so, the danger comes mostly from inhaling the deadly spores en masse, not from ingesting them.  I have a degree where I needed to take microbiology courses to pass exams, so I know a bit about contams. The only toxic trich species is called trichoderma longo, longif, long??? I can't remember lol!

Even the most deadly known hepa-toxin contams that concerns us fungus-growers (Aspergillus flavus), is not taken up by the fruit bodies of any mushroom. And A flavus IS deadly to ingest. But I digress...

To be clear, Trichoderma spores are dangerous when inhaled in large quantities. There is one species AFAIK that is dangeroud to evrybody (and is rare). The most common species of Trich is only dangerous if you have HIV, or are  otherwise immunocompromised (like undergoing chemotherapy for cancer etc.). Even then, lots and lots of spores.

If some of your tubs are showing diminished returns, then I would just harvest what you can get. Maybe the Trich (if it IS Trich) is stunting or stopping your shroomies from maturing? Keep rocking it friend :thumbup:


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Re: Harvesting with contams [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26994056 - 10/20/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for that good info! But it seems as if they are all growing, like if I waited 1-2 more days they will all be the same size and mature? But some shrooms
Are dropping spores. Is it okay to cut just those and let
The others mature


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