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My SAB - what do you guys think?
    #26993390 - 10/19/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hey Guys here is my SAB. Would love your feedback, as ive been having issues with contams. I normally use a weight on top to make a better seal with the lid. Eventually i will use some strong magnets to instead of the weight.





















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Re: My SAB - what do you guys think? [Re: redshadow] * 1
    #26993402 - 10/19/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

you should vacuum your carpet and ditch the gloves.


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Re: My SAB - what do you guys think? [Re: daysbetween]
    #26993422 - 10/19/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Definitely get rid of the gloves and vacuum the carpet.

I like the lighting inside the tub, good craftsmanship. But I feel that wire might get in your way when you have a bunch of jars to do.

You could also get some coverings for your arm holes when not in use since you already made the extensions.

You have effectively made a nice glovebox instead of an SAB, which is cool and all however for this hobby the glovebox works against you because the gloves will make air currents that will blow contams into whatever you are trying to work with.


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Re: My SAB - what do you guys think? [Re: redshadow] * 1
    #26993439 - 10/19/20 06:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Hey Guys here is my SAB.




thats not a still air box.

this is still air box.



not the differences. you made some bastard glove box sab combo thingy. thats gonna give you trouble. the uv lights aint doing nothing either.

if your having issues please outline you grain prep and how you do you work. building some contraption is an exorcise in futility.


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Re: My SAB - what do you guys think? [Re: mushboy]
    #26993600 - 10/19/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for the tips guys

Lol yeah the carpet is bad, its usually cleaner but i live in a 1 bedroom apartment with no balcony or patio so my dining area becomes my workspace for bulling things and as you can see bits of crap end up everywhere.

@ lookintolearn, thanks! in fucking blind an need the light. I thought of the wires getting in the way as well, thats why i bundled them in the shieling and anchored it to the edges of the box. the UV light can be moved to the side with the magnets so its not in way.

Here is my process.

Soak grains for 12 hours
Cook grains then strain.
Load grains into grow bags (.2 micron filter) and use impulse sealer to seal
PC for 2 hours, and wait until the PC has lost all its pressure and then some.


* I wondered if my sterilization process was flawed so as a test i PC'd grain bags and jars and let them sit for 2 months. They did not have any contams. My guess is my sterilization is fine?


Prepping My box.

-I use 25% bleach water and scrub the shit out of the inside of there box and Lid.

-Load load the box up and hit the UV light for 10min. Thats about twice the time needed for the volume of the box according to the directions it came with.

-Open new syringe, sterilize with alcohol wipe, allow to dry and load it up with LC. Sterilize syringe again, then site of bag where i inject. tape injection with tape. repeat for each item i knock up.

After all this i toss the bags in a breathable tote. tote was cleaned with bleach water before use. then again after getting contams the 1st round. this is my second round and i got em again.


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Re: My SAB - what do you guys think? [Re: redshadow]
    #26993617 - 10/19/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'd stick with the basic sab.


Edited by mushboy (10/19/20 08:21 PM)


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Re: My SAB - what do you guys think? [Re: mushboy]
    #26993641 - 10/19/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I just use a super bright LED flashlight (Coast brand) on top of my SAB for light...works great...no wires...or extra cuts in SAB (possible contam vectors).

How are you making your LC... are you inoculating it with a clean agar wedge?

I've literally never had ANY success with bags... not for spawn...not to fruit in..the more I mess with bags...the worse luck I have with them...LOL.

If you are having consistent contams...I'd start from the beginning and try and eliminate all possible contam vectors. Personally, I've found less is more in this hobby...keep it simple...that glove box aint doing you any favors homie.


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Re: My SAB - what do you guys think? [Re: Pinkey]
    #26993650 - 10/19/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This is my first time with bags. Maybe ill go back to jars. Its been years but i used to use jars. Back in the day i didnt use a box at all LOL. just trying to do things better this time around. Last time i had comtam issues now and then but not as bad what im experiencing now.

def getting rid of the gloves.

do you guys sterilize the box each time you load it up? like if you have more stuff to knock up then the box will fit. could that be another issue?


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Re: My SAB - what do you guys think? [Re: redshadow]
    #26993657 - 10/19/20 08:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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This is my first time with bags. Maybe ill go back to jars. Its been years but i used to use jars. Back in the day i didnt use a box at all LOL. just trying to do things better this time around. Last time i had comtam issues now and then but not as bad what im experiencing now.

def getting rid of the gloves.

do you guys sterilize the box each time you load it up? like if you have more stuff to knock up then the box will fit. could that be another issue?




I generally can fit all of my work into the SAB at one time...but if I had more than I could fit I wouldn't re-sanitize my box...I would just wipe down whatever else I need to put in there...give it a few minutes for the air to settle, and keep working. I wipe my SAB with iso..then very lightly mist with soapy water at the beginning of each session...in the odd chance I can't fit it all in...I never repeat the setup up process...just keep loading and working.

Tell us more about your contam issues...where in the process are you seeing them...in your grain jars after you inoculate with LC?


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Re: My SAB - what do you guys think? [Re: redshadow]
    #26993663 - 10/19/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah the gloves are a mistake.  Something about creating a vacuum or something.. I did the same thing thinking I was being more sterile, but then ended up removing them.


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Re: My SAB - what do you guys think? [Re: MushLoveDenver]
    #26993732 - 10/19/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah the contams seem to always come after inoculating.

I make the LC with a mix if Honey and light malt extract.  Has some issues with a few Jars of LC but im pretty sure it was a bad seal with the RTV. this is the first time i used plastic lids and they are made from polypropylene which the RTV does not stick to very good. some of the filters were loose upon inspection when i noticed the contams. the other jars were fine tho, hence my assumption it was the glue.


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Re: My SAB - what do you guys think? [Re: redshadow]
    #26993750 - 10/19/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Are you putting a spore syringe straight to that LC, or do you start at agar? Besides the over-kill techno glovebox, spore syringe to LC is a recipe for disaster.


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Re: My SAB - what do you guys think? [Re: Dispsiple]
    #26993806 - 10/19/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah same here, i only wipe down the items that need to go in for a second session.

the box is smaller than it looks, i can fit 7-8 quart jars in there and be able to move my hands around and work.

some of the grain bags i made were fairly large so i could only fit one in at a time.


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