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5g cube in silent darkness and weed
    #26993030 - 10/19/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'm taking the dive and doing 5g in silent darkness tomorrow night, highest trip is 4g and almost always have a candle and some tunes on to flow with

My question is should I smoke a fat one before I drop them to calm nerves or just drop the shrooms only?
I do smoke daily and for over 10years. Always smoke joints while tripping so I'm tolerent.
Has anyone else done it or is it taking away from the true nature of 5g and silent darkness?


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: mikeythepikey27]
    #26993236 - 10/19/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

i've never done 5g but i'd just smoke a normal one 30-60 minutes before dropping/eating to keep your cannabinoid levels steady


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: epilectric] * 1
    #26993709 - 10/19/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Terrence McKenna was big on smoking during the come-up. He also recommended smoking if you needed a life vest if the water got too rough if you know what I mean.


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: Hikeadellic]
    #26993741 - 10/19/20 09:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Terrence McKenna was big on smoking during the come-up. He also recommended smoking if you needed a life vest if the water got too rough if you know what I mean.




But what do you think about it?

Depending upon the person it could also be a weight around ones neck dragging him/her down into the depths of insanity.

If one is going to use cannabis with mushrooms he must be very sure he is not prone to any anxiety or paranoia when using it normally.

Personally, I know of no surer way to induce psychosis than that combination, although I know once experienced such things are much easier to trigger again.


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: mikeythepikey27]
    #26993748 - 10/19/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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is it taking away from the true nature of 5g and silent darkness?




this, though it could just be my personal experience (plenty of both) but I found for the deepest levels they don't mix. :shrug:


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26993756 - 10/19/20 10:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

If you are good with smoking weed and tripping already then you can smoke if you want. No real time frame, i suggest smoking while on the come up and peak. But you know you.

I always have the intention of smoking during the peak but i find it really difficult so it doesn't happen nearly as much as i plan.


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26993758 - 10/19/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

In what way do you feel it takes away from the experience.


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: wolf8312]
    #26994020 - 10/20/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I don't consider myself  experienced in pshychedelics. Been working my my up with a variety of pshycs to sus out my tolerence. Probably tried to trip 10 times lsd, shrooms, truffle, lsa,  2-cb. Going off that I feel I have quite the iron will. My highest doses where I had noticeble effect were 450ug* 1cp and 1 troll but trolls were bad and 3.5g lemon tek were not really crazy at all maybe bordering level 2.

My last experience together are wonderful, smoked during the come up and peak on 3.5g lemon tek mostly closed eye visuals and mad body load.
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In what way do you feel it takes away from the experience.



I don't know yet, still very much in the beginnings of my pshychedelic journey but 5g is where it "begins". A lot of my thinking is down to wanting to ultimaly stop smoking cannabis or at least curb it for a while for personal reason but im not gonna deleve into it too much. I want to ask the mushroom for guidance on that matter. With my intentions, would I be going into my trip wrong getting high prior and maybe defeating the reasons for doing it?

Me and Mary Jane have a love/hate relationship where most don't have these issues.
I'm on a journey of self development I suppose and since wetting my feet in these medicine, I'm beginning to notice my mind set changing, becoming introspective maybe.


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Terrence McKenna was big on smoking during the come-up. He also recommended smoking if you needed a life vest if the water got too rough if you know what I mean.




(Yeah I can see how it can be a safety blanket at lower doses. I don't THINK I would freak and it the trip going sour, I'm quite laid back and chill about life. It's not knowing the 5g+ realm which makes me nervous where lower doses ive been pretty grounded and not out of it)

But what do you think about it?

Depending upon the person it could also be a weight around ones neck dragging him/her down into the depths of insanity.

If one is going to use cannabis with mushrooms he must be very sure he is not prone to any anxiety or paranoia when using it normally.

Personally, I know of no surer way to induce psychosis than that combination, although I know once experienced such things are much easier to trigger again.




Either way, I know that my ass will get a beating down if my home grow cubes are any good.
Woulld you lemon tek, brew or straight eat. I can't stand the taste and don't fancy getting nausea and lemon has been the only one to hold it back.


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: mikeythepikey27]
    #26994240 - 10/20/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I personally opt for eating the shrooms straight. I see it as mother natures intended package. The more times I eat the shrooms the more I get used to the taste. However if it makes you feel sick every time you eat them you should probably look into other methods of taking them.


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: mikeythepikey27]
    #26994468 - 10/20/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Terrence McKenna was big on smoking during the come-up. He also recommended smoking if you needed a life vest if the water got too rough if you know what I mean.




(Yeah I can see how it can be a safety blanket at lower doses. I don't THINK I would freak and it the trip going sour, I'm quite laid back and chill about life. It's not knowing the 5g+ realm which makes me nervous where lower doses ive been pretty grounded and not out of it)

But what do you think about it?

Depending upon the person it could also be a weight around ones neck dragging him/her down into the depths of insanity.

If one is going to use cannabis with mushrooms he must be very sure he is not prone to any anxiety or paranoia when using it normally.

Personally, I know of no surer way to induce psychosis than that combination, although I know once experienced such things are much easier to trigger again.




Either way, I know that my ass will get a beating down if my home grow cubes are any good.
Would you lemon tek, brew or straight eat. I can't stand the taste and don't fancy getting nausea and lemon has been the only one to hold it back.




I don't use lemon but vinegar for those kind of things. A big part of LT is making sure you have ground the shrooms down into a fine powder and boiled all the actives out into the liquid.

Lemon tek will hit harder and faster and will cause less nausea than eating whole shrooms though the effects will wear off quicker and the experience loses a certain robustness that is hard to put into words.

I think this is because the whole experience just feels heavier, as you have all the shroom matter inside your stomach which can make the physical symptoms and psychedelic effects feed/breed of each other. But it's also more stop/start and comes on in waves (which can mean occasional respite) whereas with LT the effects are more unrelenting.

I've also often found a bit of unpleasant nausea when tripping is beneficial in that it forces me to lay down and surrender to the experience itself, because there's no real place to hide. You just have to suffer. But that is maybe not for those looking for a more recreational experience. Not to sound too hippy but I do think as with Aya purging is the experience as God intended. Feeling better after initially feeling awful during the start of a trip often steers an experience in a positive direction because feeling better physically can also translate to feeling as if things are mentally also getting better as well.

I remember just lying down in a bar once unable to move and certain I was going to vomit if I did so! I just lay there letting the waves of come-up anxiety wash over me while insistently gazing into the grinning tryptamine hallucinations that were unblinkingly staring me down. This was pretty much all I could do and IME the battle is generally won or lost here during the come up...

As eating shrooms is not particularly pleasant though I almost invariably used LT (or VT in my case)! I only ate them when I didn't have time to make a tea, and had to eat them on the hop.

But there's definitely a distinction between both methods of ingestion and I recommend trying both. You don't need to actually eat them just wash them down.


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26994630 - 10/20/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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In what way do you feel it takes away from the experience.





Ruins the mushroom headspace by collapsing it to that of weed.  If that makes sense to you.  Anyway, one time in recent times I tried that and immediately said "well fuck that, this sucks!" or words to that effect.  I can smoke weed anytime and not trip properly. :laugh2:

It reminded me that some years ago (when I last quit weed entirely) it was the mushrooms that made me do it.  So I have an obligation of sorts not to pollute the incredible mushroom experience with less ecstatic types of drugs.  (This include alcohol which the shrooms are always down on as well, but I've never obliged them that way.)


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: wolf8312]
    #26994656 - 10/20/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I've also often found a bit of unpleasant nausea when tripping is beneficial in that it forces me to lay down and surrender to the experience itself, because there's no real place to hide.




:nojustno: 

Nausea is just nausea and if you're tripping at the time it's even worse.  That's why it's acidic tea FTW with all the spent shrooms strained out. 

Besides, when I get into daily dosing from fresh, there's no way in hell I'd be consuming 250 g shrooms intact. :laugh2:


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26994681 - 10/20/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I know exactly what you mean. But i would not describe it as a collapse.
To me its more of floral opening. Or some sort of fusion reaction... The older i get the more i realize that we share a lot of the exact same notions but we just see them from vastly different perspectives.

It reminds me of the " is the universe wailing in pain or hauling in laughter."


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26994706 - 10/20/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Well OK that's a case of YMMV for sure.  Mine was just  :wellthatshorrifying:

And I like weed.  But for me they just do not go together. :rockthefuckout:


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26994727 - 10/20/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

To be fair, i have never had a smoke session while tripping. The most i was able to consume was a single joint once. All the other times i just smoke one or two snappers out of my bong. It gets intense just from a single hit.
I just can't focus of smoking in those states.


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: wolf8312]
    #26994746 - 10/20/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Depending upon the person it could also be a weight around ones neck dragging him/her down into the depths of insanity.




I am definitely one of those people. Cannabis, especially at higher dosages, almost always puts me in a quite paranoid state of mind. I find that the best thing for me during an uncomfortable trip is a change in environment. Sometimes, this is just as simple as changing the music. Other times, I need to go out for a walk to calm my nerves. Cannabis would be nearly guaranteed to make a challenging trip even worse for me.


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26995064 - 10/20/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I've also often found a bit of unpleasant nausea when tripping is beneficial in that it forces me to lay down and surrender to the experience itself, because there's no real place to hide.




:nojustno: 

Nausea is just nausea and if you're tripping at the time it's even worse.  That's why it's acidic tea FTW with all the spent shrooms strained out. 

Besides, when I get into daily dosing from fresh, there's no way in hell I'd be consuming 250 g shrooms intact. :laugh2:



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I've also often found a bit of unpleasant nausea when tripping is beneficial in that it forces me to lay down and surrender to the experience itself, because there's no real place to hide.




:nojustno: 

Nausea is just nausea and if you're tripping at the time it's even worse.  That's why it's acidic tea FTW with all the spent shrooms strained out. 

Besides, when I get into daily dosing from fresh, there's no way in hell I'd be consuming 250 g shrooms intact. :laugh2:




Well nausea doesen't/shouldn't last long, and as I explained the purge that comes from the nausea and the transformation from sick to well again can often be beneficial -at least to me- and transformative psychologically. But YMMV and to be honest I too rarely did shrooms whole if I could help it!

But personally I would never take shrooms or any psychedelic more than once a week (or better still once a month). Even when compensating for tolerance by doubling up the next day or whatever I always found that a lot of the magic was diminished that way, kinda like HBWR extracts compared to the whole seed (now that's nausea!) experience. Just kinda missing a lot of the magic and profundity.


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: wolf8312]
    #26995085 - 10/20/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Totally agree about often tripping reducing the magic. I think it makes sense to dose every full moon. Kinda like natures way of telling you its time for shit to go down.


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: wolf8312]
    #26995097 - 10/20/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Well nausea doesen't/shouldn't last long, and as I explained the purge that comes from the nausea and the transformation from sick to well again can often be beneficial -at least to me- and transformative psychologically. But YMMV and to be honest I too rarely did shrooms whole if I could help it!

But personally I would never take shrooms or any psychedelic more than once a week (or better still once a month). Even when compensating for tolerance by doubling up the next day or whatever I always found that a lot of the magic was diminished that way, kinda like HBWR extracts compared to the whole seed (now that's nausea!) experience. Just kinda missing a lot of the magic and profundity.




My point is the purge has no spiritual component, it's just puking.  I don't see why people get so hung up on that thing, unless maybe it's something you enjoy. :thataintright:

And no offense but I wasn't looking for advice about tripping frequency, when I do it that often (and I have a lot) it's always for a very deliberate purpose, and if I was spending that time puking and feeling sick instead of working I'd be wasting it. I understand that most people believe it affects the "magic" but it's really the only worthwhile way to go deep.  I found this out years ago. :shrug:

Sorry to be so blunt but am feeling a bit off today. Now gonna go strike a blunt and chill. :laugh2:



Oh yeah, I do eat fruits when I'm growing out strains to test their potency but I never trip that way.  I've never actually puked with mushrooms though I get some nausea. Puking just wastes whatever you didn't digest and it isn't good for you either - I had enough for a lifetime when I had chemo.  Try a proper tea (HEY HERE'S ONE) and you'll never go back.


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Re: 5g cube in silent darkness and weed [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26995155 - 10/20/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Clean up your drugs kids. Jesus. Oh man, all this wooo is making have to shit.


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