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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: Saul Ptamets] 1
#26991786 - 10/18/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't like the idea of a vaccine without some historical safety data (approx 3 years) behind it. That being said, herd immunity among humans has NEVER been achieved without a vaccine. So, option A) vaccine with limited long term safety data or B) 3 more years of covid-19 making rounds like a seasonal flu but all year long.
Neither are that appealing, but I'll place my money on A causing the least harm.
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: Saul Ptamets] 2
#26992077 - 10/18/20 09:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The fact that your thought process only extends specifically to your family and not the society around you speaks volumes and is why you are going to get stamped a plague rat. The shit doesn't work when a bunch of plague rats decide to be selfish.
I don't get a flu shot, but the flu != shit like measles, mumps, rubella, TB, polio, corona, etc. Don't be a plague rat people. If you want to say fuck society then get the fuck out of society and live like a hermit in the middle of the woods. Tired as fuck of this whole year of selfish self centered pricks fucking it up for everyone else. That line of thinking is EXACTLY why the US has been such a shitshow compared to the rest of the world with this garbage.
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: mndfreeze]
#26992305 - 10/19/20 05:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not just selfish but ignorant. Vaccines works, if it weren't for vaccines we would not have 8+ billion people on this planet.
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Saul Ptamets
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: mndfreeze] 1
#26992867 - 10/19/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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mndfreeze said: The fact that your thought process only extends specifically to your family and not the society around you speaks volumes and is why you are going to get stamped a plague rat. The shit doesn't work when a bunch of plague rats decide to be selfish.
I don't get a flu shot, but the flu != shit like measles, mumps, rubella, TB, polio, corona, etc. Don't be a plague rat people. If you want to say fuck society then get the fuck out of society and live like a hermit in the middle of the woods. Tired as fuck of this whole year of selfish self centered pricks fucking it up for everyone else. That line of thinking is EXACTLY why the US has been such a shitshow compared to the rest of the world with this garbage.
Stop trying to push your beliefs on to people. If I or someone else doesn't want to get something that we don't need or trust then stop trying to push it. you're the plague rat
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: Saul Ptamets]
#26992883 - 10/19/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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mndfreeze said: The fact that your thought process only extends specifically to your family and not the society around you speaks volumes and is why you are going to get stamped a plague rat. The shit doesn't work when a bunch of plague rats decide to be selfish.
I don't get a flu shot, but the flu != shit like measles, mumps, rubella, TB, polio, corona, etc. Don't be a plague rat people. If you want to say fuck society then get the fuck out of society and live like a hermit in the middle of the woods. Tired as fuck of this whole year of selfish self centered pricks fucking it up for everyone else. That line of thinking is EXACTLY why the US has been such a shitshow compared to the rest of the world with this garbage.
Stop trying to push your beliefs on to people. If I or someone else doesn't want to get something that we don't need or trust then stop trying to push it. you're the plague rat
It's not pushing beliefs. I will use myself as an example. I have been vaccinated for measles via MMR 3x and via a specific measles vaccine 7x. Despite all that I have no antibody titer against measles. In order for me not to catch one of the most transmissible viruses to ever exist, I rely on herd immunity. I have no immunity to it myself. So, 4 years ago there was a pretty sizeable outbreak of measles in the Minnesota. I have a friend who lives out their that I was planning on visiting. Out of an abundance of caution, I rescheduled to the next year. The outbreak was caused by anti-vaccine believers.
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: Ice9] 1
#26992886 - 10/19/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anti-vaxxers should be quarantined in FEMA camps until they get their damn shots.
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26993144 - 10/19/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: Anti-vaxxers should be quarantined in FEMA camps until they get their damn shots.
Couldn't agree more. Maybe even throw a few active diseases in there too so they can witness first hand the monstrous behavior they have been exhibiting once they all start to die from shit.
Really tired of science deniers. It's always the idiots of the world that fuck everything up for society.
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: Saul Ptamets] 1
#26993195 - 10/19/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd rather shoot up heroin than get this vaccine. I'll still get the vaccine though.
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: mndfreeze]
#26993316 - 10/19/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: Anti-vaxxers should be quarantined in FEMA camps until they get their damn shots.
Maybe even throw a few active diseases in there too so they can witness first hand the monstrous behavior they have been exhibiting once they all start to die from shit. Not surprised you would say something like this. Liberals like to wish harm on people. You probably bathe urself in vaccines anyway, like I would take advice from someone like you.
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: mndfreeze]
#26993496 - 10/19/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: Anti-vaxxers should be quarantined in FEMA camps until they get their damn shots.
Couldn't agree more. Maybe even throw a few active diseases in there too so they can witness first hand the monstrous behavior they have been exhibiting once they all start to die from shit.
Really tired of science deniers. It's always the idiots of the world that fuck everything up for society.
Per your two lines of logic, all people that want vaccines should be placed in FEMA camps until Covid passes (which will be never.)
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: Tulipslave]
#26993516 - 10/19/20 07:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: Anti-vaxxers should be quarantined in FEMA camps until they get their damn shots.
Couldn't agree more. Maybe even throw a few active diseases in there too so they can witness first hand the monstrous behavior they have been exhibiting once they all start to die from shit.
Really tired of science deniers. It's always the idiots of the world that fuck everything up for society.
Per your two lines of logic, all people that want vaccines should be placed in FEMA camps until Covid passes (which will be never.)
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Baby_Hitler said: Anti-vaxxers should be quarantined in FEMA camps until they get their damn shots.
Couldn't agree more. Maybe even throw a few active diseases in there too so they can witness first hand the monstrous behavior they have been exhibiting once they all start to die from shit.
Really tired of science deniers. It's always the idiots of the world that fuck everything up for society.
Per your two lines of logic, all people that want vaccines should be placed in FEMA camps until Covid passes (which will be never.)
Yea. Not good at convincing people to get a vaccine by telling them they should be put in camps and given other diseases
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: Saul Ptamets] 3
#26993574 - 10/19/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd get the vaccine in a heartbeat. Fuck the people who don't.
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: dark_leviathan] 1
#26993707 - 10/19/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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But the pusher don't care if you live or if you die. My body is mine and nobody elses. I make my own decisions and that's my own business. People should always have the right to choose.
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: Nichrome] 1
#26993738 - 10/19/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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What's funny to me is people always want to blame "antivaxxers" for all kinds of things. If vaccines work, wouldn't the people who get them have immunity anyways?
Its almost like the people who say awful things about people who are skeptical of vaccines, aren't really sure if they actually work themselves...I mean, if they work how you want them to...wouldn't the people who chose not to get them be the only ones negatively affected by the disease in question anyways?
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: hummingbird]
#26993739 - 10/19/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Think id rather buy me an AR an wait and see if people turn into zombies first
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: BeardedWizard]
#26993743 - 10/19/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Id most deffinatly get vaccinated once ive seen its safe and effective shit just worries me because i dont want to take something that been rushed through clinacal trials and rubber stamped to be used by the public
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Saul Ptamets
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: BeardedWizard]
#26993804 - 10/19/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea next thing you know you have bad symptoms and you cant sue because they're vaccines...
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Saul Ptamets
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: Saul Ptamets]
#26993814 - 10/19/20 11:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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i still have had no one explain to me why vaccines require herd immunity to work. Drop some knowledge.
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: Saul Ptamets]
#26993898 - 10/20/20 02:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: Anti-vaxxers should be quarantined in FEMA camps until they get their damn shots.
Maybe even throw a few active diseases in there too so they can witness first hand the monstrous behavior they have been exhibiting once they all start to die from shit. Not surprised you would say something like this. Liberals like to wish harm on people. You probably bathe urself in vaccines anyway, like I would take advice from someone like you.
I didn't give you any advice, nor am I a liberal. Believing in the power of S C I E N C E does not make one partisan.
I know that word scares you, confuses you, and probably makes you want to punch some drywall and I'm sorry for that.
For everyone else who seems to think they are going to be FORCED to take one, you wont. However you will get labeled a selfish fucking plague rat for risking other peoples lives. Core basics of living in a society is not harming the others in your society. It's why murder is illegal. Knowingly passing a contagious disease to someone is the same concept. It's pretty straightforward.
Again, just like with measles, something we almost nearly eradicated, the anti-vax nonsense movement has caused it to start popping back up. It can be fatal btw, but since almost everyone on this site grew up in a world where it was already mostly wiped out you don't have the memory of it burned in to remind you of the importance of vaccines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#:~:text=Measles%20is%20a%20highly%20contagious,runny%20nose%2C%20and%20inflamed%20eyes.
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Re: (SERIOUS) IF A VACCINE CAME OUT TODAY, WOULD YOU TAKE IT [Re: mndfreeze] 1
#26994307 - 10/20/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seems like the provax crowd is throwing the most hate speech and death threats and actually state that they hope people die horribly. Just saying.
Most of the folks who don't want it are not saying they hope anyone dies horribly. Shows a lot about character I think. Maybe there are just way more paid lobbyists and troll farmers than I realized.
Think I'll start using the term Vax-Nazi as it seems more descriptive.
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