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When to shake spawn? (PIC)
    #26988156 - 10/16/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Here’s a pic of my current spawn. I’m trying rye one last time I flame sterilized between every injection this time. But why is one so slow?  Anyways do I shake the ones that are about 50% or wait till 70% please help guide me to fruit. I’ve posted a lot on here and I’m really trying to get some fruits to address some addiction issues I have.  Thanks



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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: funeralfather]
    #26988161 - 10/16/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hey I wouldnt worry I always have some that lag behind the others. As long as you dont see any contamination you are good just have to wait it out.


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: funeralfather]
    #26988164 - 10/16/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

No expert here, but, if they all were inoculated at the same time and that one jar is stalling maybe it is contam, bacterial, the other ones you can wait for them to colonize a little longer and then a shake and wait for recovery, if they recover fine after a couple days they could be alright. Again, no expert, so i would wait for any experienced growers to chime in, just my 2 cents.


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: Joe Gage]
    #26988173 - 10/16/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You can really shake at any point, as long as your spawn is clean it will recover and colonize faster once you distribute those inoculation points. I would definitely shake the ones at 50% but shaking at 20-30% seems to be the standard. No harm doing it late.

Otherwise your jars are looking pretty good, especially if they were inoculated with MSS :thumbup:

MSS is a crapshoot so I wouldn't really worry about one jar lagging behind the others. It could be contam but it's probably just slower than the others, just keep an eye on it and if there is contam it may stall completely or not colonize certain areas. But I bet if you shake at 30% it'll catch up pretty fast.


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: Lenz]
    #26988420 - 10/16/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, this is my second attempt MSS. First time I didn’t flame sterilize between injections.  Each got about 2.5 but I did use a little extra just to finish the syringe I can’t tell you which one though.  I shook today I will update in a few days and just use this as a log. Thank you everyone for your help.  I’m actually impressed with this syringes so hopefully if it all goes well it will be a one time thing and I can just work with my own after that


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: funeralfather]
    #26992600 - 10/19/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Omg they returned with such vigor! I know this is a multi post but I will update with pic. I got tubs order micropore in case I wanna sit and forget coco coir verm and gypsum on the way anyways. Pics below

After 72 hours



I’m wondering do you think I could stretch these a week until my supplies arrive on Monday?


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: funeralfather] * 2
    #26992619 - 10/19/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

They'll need a few days or more to finish up.  Never be in a hurry with grain spawn.  They can easily sit for a week or more after what appears to be full colonization.  The last thing you want is any uncolonized grains getting into your non-sterile bulk substrate.
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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #26992636 - 10/19/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Ahh that explains why full colonization and making 110 percent sure it is, has been drilled into my head.  Would you unmod? This is my second attempt my first tek was abysmal no air circulation, neglect.  Cobweb, besides the point. I have a 54 coming.  I think that 3-4 quarts should be enough for that I want more nutrients from the rye instead of adding gypsum I think coco coir and verm should do fine unless anyone says anymore ?


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: funeralfather]
    #26992742 - 10/19/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

these pics are very helpful to me. can you tell me how many days after inoculation are these great pics#thx


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: ghlllll678]
    #26992749 - 10/19/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

coir and verm is a solid substrate mixture. shake whenever you want and however much you want, but obviously not everyday. you will get a feel for when to do it with more experience


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: ghlllll678]
    #26992816 - 10/19/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This is after first shake, inoculate date September 29.  I’m looking to birth them to tubs by next week.


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: Big_Dub]
    #26992817 - 10/19/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

How much ratio Coir to Verm? And does it pasteurize in a cooler together?


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: funeralfather]
    #26992845 - 10/19/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

throw the dry coir and dry verm into the cooler. add hot water. let it sit for a few hours. once cool, knock it up with your grain


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: funeralfather]
    #26992864 - 10/19/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I use 1 brick of coir and 2-3 quarts of verm and about 4 quarts of boiling water in a cooler.

if your sub is too wet after that, then you can add verm to soak up the moisture. If it's too dry, you can add water.

If you're worried about the verm being contaminated, you can bake it in the oven to kill any mold spores, but usually not a problem at least with new verm from my experience.


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: sotally tober]
    #26992888 - 10/19/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

May bake, I got 10 lbs of coco and I’m not sure the bag of verm I also have gypsum but I have no idea wtf that does but I got it haha


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: funeralfather] * 1
    #26992893 - 10/19/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

for cubes, you can get by with just coir. keep it simple


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: Big_Dub]
    #26992912 - 10/19/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

May try that first go I got other tubs and syringes


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: funeralfather]
    #26992918 - 10/19/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Bod's bucket tek has a good water ratio for coir  only.


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: sotally tober]
    #26992960 - 10/19/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

as far as water ratio goes, you just gotta feel it out. when you squeeze the substrate material, only a drop or two should come out (search for field capacity)


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Re: When to shake spawn? (PIC) [Re: Big_Dub]
    #26992975 - 10/19/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Am I the only one that’s a little sketched out by the top half of the jar on the right? Could just be the condensation/glare combo but it looks bacterial to me, especially compared to the other ones which look good.


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