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Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions?
    #26992738 - 10/19/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

So I need to move forward, and pave the way to a better career. I’ve been debating on going to trade school, or get into IT. I’m really in a tough spot not knowing what my next move should be. How does one figure that out?

I was debating on going to college but four years full time is a huge commitment, and I know a lot of people who just go into debt and wasted time doing that. What do you guys have to say?


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26992747 - 10/19/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

What field in IT?


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic] * 1
    #26992748 - 10/19/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Follow your passion, not money.

It took me half a lifetime and ending up in a career I despise to realise that.


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26992753 - 10/19/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You think you'll enjoy shearing sheep and castrating lambs?


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26992761 - 10/19/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I very much enjoyed it. However I won't be doing that again from the looks of things; I'm going to open an oldschool bodybuilders gym in the same part of the world instead. I can't wait.

The plan is all in place, I just need to make it a reality,

Also, beware IT OP. That's what I chose at eighteen and whilst I have risen to the upper echelons of the game and make big money; a more soulless, dispassionate job I have never known.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26992769 - 10/19/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm going to open an oldschool bodybuilders gym in the same part of the world instead.




Kool :thumbup:


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26992795 - 10/19/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Honestly I have like no true passion for anything, as depressing as that sounds. I am a huge animal lover, but not sure what I can even do with that. I don’t even know where to start but I’ve been saying that for years, that’s why I’m trying to make somewhat of a plan and jump in.

One passion I have is providing for my family, and having money to be able to live a nice life. I’m 28 and while I get by, that’s not living and I don’t care for my job. I hate having to make money on the side. I just want to be a somewhat normal person with a solid career where I can advance.

The reason I mention IT is because I grew up with computers, know some people who are successful in it who are NOT straight brainiacs and I could POTENTIALLY use that skill/degree at my current job.


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26992800 - 10/19/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I very much enjoyed it. However I won't be doing that again from the looks of things; I'm going to open an oldschool bodybuilders gym in the same part of the world instead. I can't wait.

The plan is all in place, I just need to make it a reality,

Also, beware IT OP. That's what I chose at eighteen and whilst I have risen to the upper echelons of the game and make big money; a more soulless, dispassionate job I have never known.




It's not so bad from others I hear from in the comp world (my older bro does cyber security and infrastructure for the government) I think maybe its who you do IT for that makes it soulless.  I mean my brother doesn't find it soulless more ...evil incarnate :rofl2:

To the OP, literally make a list of what your interests are, what do you browse on the computer, besides droogz forums, maybe you read sciencey articles that come out, or are active in car forums, then pick a field or trade from those that has good job prospects.  There are places on the web that not only give pay ranges for jobs, but projections for the need for that job in 5 years, 10 years etc.  It will always be easier getting a job in an expanding field, or a field where knowledgeable workers are shrinking (aging out/retiring but the youngsters don't want to fill those positions).


Just some general advice from a person who thinks of his job and goes "meh" don't hate nor love it, but I have many avenues of advancement that make it enticing.


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Ice9]
    #26992808 - 10/19/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Chef
Carpenter
Electrician

Pick one. Hard work but Decent careers. Lots of flexibility.

I used to be chef. Long time ago, abandoned work for health reasons, now im thinking i shoudlnt have left and stuck with it...


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26992826 - 10/19/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Electrician is a good one, bit of a long road to get through journeyman status, but once you hit master electrician $$$$$ I have buddy that does that, he is 42 now, owns 4 cars and 2 houses outright.  Get's almost all work done on his houses as trades, he does electric work for a carpenter, they install new windows etc. 

Along those lines HVAC can be pretty good too, but starts of crap.


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Ice9]
    #26994527 - 10/20/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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It's not so bad from others I hear from in the comp world (my older bro does cyber security and infrastructure for the government) I think maybe its who you do IT for that makes it soulless.  I mean my brother doesn't find it soulless more ...



I think my point is due to the fact that if one gets to the top of the IT game - working for the banks (as they provide the highest wages for this skillset, and wages is why we're in it) - then one will find it is soulless. Through personal experience and the experience of many close friends I am well aware of the culture inside a few dozen banks worldwide, and they're all pretty much the same in that regard.

If one sets out in IT not to get the most money and instead find job satisfaction, working for a young, hip startup or company that embodies a progressive attitude will likely have the element of soul that is missing at the upper end of the field.

Also; sitting on ones ass all day is an unavoidable aspect of the career and staring at a screen all day combined with that is never going to be great for the body and mind.

Just worth bearing in mind is all. If I did it all again I wouldn't choose IT.


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26994617 - 10/20/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I respect Jokeshopbeard's advice and respect him as a poster but I also could not disagree more. I would like to provide an alternative perspective.

I am in software in the US and I have a level of financial stability that I could not get in other fields. This stability has let me deal with my personal/childhood traumas more effectively. I am not bragging at all but the fact is that I have never said "I want to do XYZ but can't afford that". Thats valuable. my true passion is psych and phil. maybe economics. but those don't pay well


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: topdog82]
    #26994626 - 10/20/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I think top position working for banks in IT would be dope


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26994638 - 10/20/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I think top position working for banks in IT would be dope



I've got one of those and it's really fucking not.

Once I hit forty, I wouldn't continue with this shite even if they offered me a million dollars.

Life is too short to spend most of your week doing something that drains the life from you, regardless of how much money you get.

There's more to life than money. I know that's not a popular opinion and it's certainly what they try to program us all with in our western cultural upbringing, but I say bollocks to it.


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26994683 - 10/20/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I guess u could do worse...


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26994707 - 10/20/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The grass always looks greener, I suppose. Such is the folly of man.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26994734 - 10/20/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I thought it was "the dick is always bigger".:smirk:


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26995448 - 10/20/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I Havnt even went to college or done any schooling. I feel dumb saying this but I don’t even know how to enroll and do all of that. I know one needs to apply for grants and stuff, which I also don’t know how to do but I guess it couldn’t be too hard to figure that out.

I mean how does one know what to even enroll in school for, you don’t even know if you’ll like what you’re enrolling for you know what I mean? Honestly I don’t want to do super hard labor for years and years. My dad did that growing up, a skilled carpenter, and it looked rough.

Some positions require general education and I guess you could learn a little about it yourself going through that. 4 years full time plus work would be ROUGH though, for me at least. There’s just so many different careers, I don’t understand how people decide.


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26995480 - 10/20/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

A quote from the late great Kurt Vonnegut jr
"Stretch. Don’t feel guilty if you don’t know what you want to do with your
life…the most interesting people I know didn’t know at 22 what they
wanted to do with their lives, some of the most interesting 40 year
olds I know still don’t."


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Re: Need to go to trade school or figure something out. Suggestions? [Re: Ice9]
    #26995507 - 10/20/20 10:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I appreciate that. I wish I could see life out of other people’s eyes and understand their thoughts on the topic. I think I need to move too, start fresh and start a new adult life. I’m 28. I’ve been debating on the medical field but what if I don’t like it. I guess maby some people don’t necessarily live for what they do, and more about the money.


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