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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 5
    #26993925 - 10/20/20 05:48 AM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Not that Democrats possess more intelligence than Republicans but that conservatism is negatively correlated with cognitive ability: Link

Those who cannot function without direction/instructions are overwhelmingly going to turn to traditional values and institutions. It's not that these things are stupid, only that incapable/stupid people are more inclined to flock to them. There are certainly many very intelligent people who stick to them simply because they're proven, that's an intelligent and rational decision to make.


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26993978 - 10/20/20 07:34 AM (1 month, 12 days ago)

The research doesn't mention party affiliation. We would expect a correlation.


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26993989 - 10/20/20 07:48 AM (1 month, 12 days ago)



I don't think I'm that far left left, as the right has some good ideas, occasionally.


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #26994073 - 10/20/20 09:48 AM (1 month, 12 days ago)

It is.  I see it come up in conversation at least several times a week.


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: Enlil]
    #26994291 - 10/20/20 12:37 PM (1 month, 12 days ago)



I'd say I expected this result, although the simplicity of the questions does mean these results don't necessarily show where people fall in terms of actual policies they support, but for me this does demonstrate my core principles. I do think we need a state, however anti-authoritarian I supposedly am, although I'd consider it a necessary evil rather than an ideal to be worshiped


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: Ezuma]
    #26994369 - 10/20/20 01:26 PM (1 month, 12 days ago)

You’re the closest to me I’ve seen posted but yeah the quiz is way too vague.


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 2
    #26994388 - 10/20/20 01:36 PM (1 month, 12 days ago)

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Oh, look. It's one of those tests that tell you what kind of Libertarian you are.
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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: budmanman]
    #26994550 - 10/20/20 03:10 PM (1 month, 12 days ago)

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That's^^^ about where I was the last several times I did this years ago....



Here's the most recent from a few months ago....







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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: Kyngwhatt] * 2
    #26998347 - 10/22/20 07:11 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

I found some tests that i think are a little more accurate if anyone is interested. (i haven't tried them all out yet)



8VALUES
https://8values.github.io/
POLITICAL COMPASS
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
POLITISCALES
https://www.politiscales.net
POLITICAL SEXTANT
http://politicalsextant.com/quiz/
SPEKR
http://spekr.org
ISIDEWITH
https://www.isidewith.com/



while i was taking one of these tests it occurred to me that none of this will work. all the way left on the spectrum (what i believe is total government) will be abused and the people will be enslaved, all the way right (a completely free capitalist market) will be the same if not worse than total government. as long as we have this system there will be suffering and slavery in the long run. ( i probably don't understand properly what extreme left and right actually mean)

i believe the only way out of this is if everyone practiced natural law and used force to stop anyone when someone violates your natural rights

AS MORALITY INCREASES FREEDOM INCREASES
AS MORALITY DECREASES FREEDOM DECREASES


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: Kyngwhatt]
    #26998356 - 10/22/20 07:17 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)



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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26998369 - 10/22/20 07:25 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

thanks Hitler! i'm even more lost now :confused:


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: Kyngwhatt] * 1
    #26998602 - 10/22/20 10:04 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

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Kyngwhatt said:
I found some tests that i think are a little more accurate if anyone is interested. (i haven't tried them all out yet)



8VALUES
https://8values.github.io/
POLITICAL COMPASS
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
POLITISCALES
https://www.politiscales.net
POLITICAL SEXTANT
http://politicalsextant.com/quiz/
SPEKR
http://spekr.org
ISIDEWITH
https://www.isidewith.com/



while i was taking one of these tests it occurred to me that none of this will work. all the way left on the spectrum (what i believe is total government) will be abused and the people will be enslaved, all the way right (a completely free capitalist market) will be the same if not worse than total government. as long as we have this system there will be suffering and slavery in the long run. ( i probably don't understand properly what extreme left and right actually mean)

i believe the only way out of this is if everyone practiced natural law and used force to stop anyone when someone violates your natural rights

AS MORALITY INCREASES FREEDOM INCREASES
AS MORALITY DECREASES FREEDOM DECREASES




the left/right dichotomy is imo disingenuous and often abused for political ends. If we're talking about political ideology lucidly (not the habit of media especially american media) then the idea that left: government and right: no government isn't accurate.

You can have an authoritarian state that could be called 'left' and you could have an authoritarian state called 'right', because there are other metrics involved.

It's a confusing issue because it's so shrouded by propaganda and pundits displaying shallow engagement with actual roots of ideology.

In short, you could be a hardcore leftist who is NOT in favor of an authoritarian government, just as you could be a hardcore reactionary (right) who supports total government control. It's a lot more complicated than is often suggested by the left/right dichotomy


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: Ezuma]
    #26999353 - 10/23/20 11:20 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

I'm actually pretty far left..



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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: STPLSD25]
    #26999356 - 10/23/20 11:22 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

If you're not right, you're wrong.


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26999375 - 10/23/20 11:31 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

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If you're not right, you're wrong.



I love when rightwingers use these buzzphrases, but can't typically defend their views logically.. Tell me "Enlil" what exactly about the right wing do you support? The drug war? The raping and pillaging of our planet for capitalist profits? Or do you just think all left wingers are "Anarchist" "pedophiles" "Socialists"  cause Prez. Derp Jerp Terp said so?


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: STPLSD25]
    #26999389 - 10/23/20 11:43 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

I support pretty much all of that, but I'm not a right winger.


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26999451 - 10/23/20 12:35 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

It was a little suspicious you have a sick DJT as your Avatar. But at least now I know you're full of shit, so I don't believe that you support any of that. I mean, you're a moderator of a mushroom website, how could you support them potentially making it too hot for mushrooms to grow outside at all? Besides that. coffee, bananas and many other plants are today threatened with extinction due to man made climate change.


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: STPLSD25] * 2
    #26999539 - 10/23/20 01:18 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Think about all the more awesome new plants we'll get though.


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26999578 - 10/23/20 01:46 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

That only happens if they have time to evolve. Not many plants are heat tolerant, that's why hot areas are typically deserts. We'd probably have more plants in an ice age... NZ actually has some crazy plants that survive in freezing temperatures. But, we're talking about heating which also requires more water which is also highly limited and commercialized


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Re: Post your political compass results [Re: STPLSD25]
    #26999652 - 10/23/20 02:33 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Meh...screw the planet.  I'll get my use out of it.


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