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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26990096 - 10/17/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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The top layer method seems to be working.

I checked my first round and the coir seems to be somewhat colonized, but it has like no structural integrity. Its still super loose but I can see bits of myc throughout it. Just gonna leave em and see what happens for now.
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26990454 - 10/17/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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How did you prep the coir? Heat treated?
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26990534 - 10/17/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah boiling water. Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26990545 - 10/17/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26990570 - 10/17/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: Yeah boiling water. Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that
Wait what
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#26990578 - 10/17/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeetusdeetus said:
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Munchauzen said: Yeah boiling water. Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that
Wait what 
Ya, it's 140 to 160 F as I read in the boards.
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Inthepit]
#26990604 - 10/17/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I still like cooked coir. Not so much for the pasteurizing business but it just like the consistency of the coir cooked a bit and seems to hold a tad more water. I might just see what I like to see though.
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Smartattack]
#26990687 - 10/17/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've been using hot tap water ever since I read Eat's Unbucket tek and it seems to work pretty damn well for me. Only wait 20-30 mins and it's good to mix and spawn.
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26990754 - 10/17/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: Yeah boiling water. Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that
I’m definitely still doing it though it’s cool that it works without. But hydro shop coir kinda makes me still like the ol boiling water.
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26990825 - 10/17/20 11:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I feel like cooked coir works best
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26990869 - 10/18/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Coir also has a pleasant petrichor like smell when it’s hot
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26991022 - 10/18/20 05:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said:
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Munchauzen said: Yeah boiling water. Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that
I’m definitely still doing it though it’s cool that it works without. But hydro shop coir kinda makes me still like the ol boiling water.
first, cool TIL EAT'S UNBUCKET T3K 1.0 ™
So... Mr. Whyte didn't you say;
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140-170 used to be the standard however, people’s specific elevations often throw a wrench into the low end of the temps and 170 is a bit like riding a razors edge. I personally like to keep it between 150-160 for about 60-70 min. 90 min pasteurization is unnecessary and may even contribute to partial sterilization (especially for people living at sea level. Pasteurizing coir to prevent contams is like jerking off with a condom to prevent STD’s. - Pasty
Or do I have someone else's quote. I mean it seems like yer against boiling here? But I definitely get that each person has their own results, which are not dependent on the same procedure. I mean, so many variables, it's hard to set a standard.
OMG, belaboring my point sorry!
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Inthepit]
#26991054 - 10/18/20 07:00 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inthepit said:
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Pastywhyte said:
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Munchauzen said: Yeah boiling water. Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that
I’m definitely still doing it though it’s cool that it works without. But hydro shop coir kinda makes me still like the ol boiling water.
first, cool TIL EAT'S UNBUCKET T3K 1.0 ™
So... Mr. Whyte didn't you say;
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140-170 used to be the standard however, people’s specific elevations often throw a wrench into the low end of the temps and 170 is a bit like riding a razors edge. I personally like to keep it between 150-160 for about 60-70 min. 90 min pasteurization is unnecessary and may even contribute to partial sterilization (especially for people living at sea level. Pasteurizing coir to prevent contams is like jerking off with a condom to prevent STD’s. - Pasty
Or do I have someone else's quote. I mean it seems like yer against boiling here? But I definitely get that each person has their own results, which are not dependent on the same procedure. I mean, so many variables, it's hard to set a standard.
OMG, belaboring my point sorry!
coir and pastuerization don't go in the same sentence. you pastuerize poo substrates. no need to do that with coir.
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Munchauzen said: Yeah boiling water. Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that
Wait what 
Ya, it's 140 to 160 F as I read in the boards.
you're thinking of pasteurizing poo
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26991065 - 10/18/20 07:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh poo! I mean thank you Munch!
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Inthepit]
#26991095 - 10/18/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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top layer update! these are looking promising. left to right is cambodian gold, lgt, and enoki.
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26991456 - 10/18/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: top layer update! these are looking promising. left to right is cambodian gold, lgt, and enoki.

Looking good, thanks for sharing!
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: enzofilo]
#26991508 - 10/18/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: fahtster]
#26991535 - 10/18/20 01:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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See I just do this for prints of genetics if I need to test my agar. works pritty good get a few good shrooms and I get my spores. I don't have a sgfc or a martha or I would try that method with cups. Seems it needs alot more work then with mono
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: trippytimes]
#26991548 - 10/18/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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ya ultimately I'm just hoping to improve the cap size as the fruits from straight agar are always tiny. maybe get 2-3 fruits with 1"-2" caps, that's all I hope to get.
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26991553 - 10/18/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I mean if you just put spawn or agar into the bottom of a clean jar with the lid on you can easy get 1"-3" caps clean spores. I have don't that a few times accidentally lol didn't clean the jars had about 15 grains down at the bottom and a month later big ole shrooms lol.
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