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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: 1234go]
    #26990085 - 10/17/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You cut off part of the sentence you quoted. The whole thing was "Warrantless drug searches of automobiles are not permitted, unless they can see the probable cause, in which case they can seize it, but further searches still require a warrant or consent."


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: psi]
    #26990091 - 10/17/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'm aware of that.


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: 1234go]
    #26990095 - 10/17/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It completely changed the meaning though. The part you cut off lists exceptions to the part you did include.


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: psi]
    #26990108 - 10/17/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

We all saw his post...we all knew the rest of the sentence. 

I suppose I diverted a little bit, but I was trying to point out that regardless of whether or not a cop has probable cause...you can still get searched.  That's why I quoted that portion of his post.


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: 1234go]
    #26990137 - 10/17/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The whole quote doesn't actually seem to be in conflict with the article from what I can see though, i.e. it was only rendered incorrect by truncation.

Rules aside though yeah there are ways they can get away with breaking them. What if they say you consented and you say you didn't? Or the sniffer dogs that give a positive response when that's what their masters want.


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: psi]
    #26990164 - 10/17/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I got pulled over in Colorado in 2013. Was not a smoker at the time, pretty much stopped smoking regularly back in 2011. This was before recreational cannabis was legal in Colorado. I was pulled over for speeding. Cop said she smelled marijuana in the vehicle. I was pretty much like that was BS, but she was adamant. Dog team comes rolling in 30 minutes later and sure enough the dog gives a positive like it's nothing. They spend about an hour searching my vehicle because I was in the process of moving to a new apartment at the time and had stuffed my vehicle with stuff.

She was very disappointed not to find marijuana in the vehicle, and gave me a ticket for speeding 4-9 miles over the speed limit. Pretty much left me to put all my shit back in the car.

Whole process was ridiculous. It was pretty obvious they were profiling me as a stoner even though I wasn't even a cannabis user at the time. The fact she still wrote the ticket for something anyone would have gotten off with in a regular circumstance was just salt in the wound.


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: psi]
    #26990168 - 10/17/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know what article you're talking about.  I was merely commenting on one part of someone's post. 

I suppose I should've explained myself, or not have posted at all.  I'm a little too stony for this...


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: 1234go]
    #26990437 - 10/17/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

If you ever have a cop illegally search your car dont worry. Get a lawyer. All that shit will get thrown out. Ive had a friend get caught with over 100lbs of marijuana in an illegal raid and they literally couldnt try him in court for it.


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: 1234go]
    #26990445 - 10/17/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Psi, 1234go, I was replying to koods' assertion that you could demand a warrant when pulled over and an officer exerts probable cause, which is false as far as I can tell.

1234go, you may be right, I may be crazy


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: No Face]
    #26990541 - 10/17/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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If you ever have a cop illegally search your car dont worry. Get a lawyer. All that shit will get thrown out. Ive had a friend get caught with over 100lbs of marijuana in an illegal raid and they literally couldnt try him in court for it.




laws differ city to city and state to state. your friend was damn lucky. one cop's assertion that the odor of marijuana is present will be sufficient probable cause to legally search your car, without a judges warrant, in many parts of the USA.


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26990560 - 10/17/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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split_by_nine said:
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No Face said:
If you ever have a cop illegally search your car dont worry. Get a lawyer. All that shit will get thrown out. Ive had a friend get caught with over 100lbs of marijuana in an illegal raid and they literally couldnt try him in court for it.




laws differ city to city and state to state. your friend was damn lucky. one cop's assertion that the odor of marijuana is present will be sufficient probable cause to legally search your car, without a judges warrant, in many parts of the USA.





IN more and more states every month actually the smell of marijuana isnt a probably cause for a search. id say in about half the states now.


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: No Face]
    #26990577 - 10/17/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

yeah i have read about that happening and i applaud it. but, the sad truth is that police will lie and 9/10 times they will get away with it


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #26991107 - 10/18/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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1234go, you may be right, I may be crazy





You may be wrong for all I know, but you may be right...


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: 1234go]
    #26991136 - 10/18/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm a little too stony for this...




Me too apparently.

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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: psi] * 1
    #26991153 - 10/18/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: 1234go]
    #27010587 - 10/29/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: No Face]
    #27011180 - 10/29/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27011401 - 10/30/20 02:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The simple way to avoid all of these problems is to just never, ever drive with drugs in your car, ever. There is never a good reason to have drugs on you or in your car. I know some of you guys carry stuff around 24/7, but I would still argue that there's never any good reason to go around carrying drugs.

If you do have serious drugs in your car, then you should politely say no to a search. Don't argue, don't be rude, be nice and polite, and say no.

But if you do that, you should expect to go to jail. Because what's going to happen is they're going to bring the dogs out, and the dogs are trained to alert no matter what. So whether or not you have drugs in your car, those dogs are going to alert, and that's probable cause. And then they're going to be able to legally search your car (and even tear it apart if they want to), and everything they find is 100% admissible in court. The only reason you say no is because when you show up in court, it's better for you to have said no because saying no costs you nothing once you get to court. Everyone who says no still gets their car searched, and in the vast majority of cases everything they find will be admissible in court. But by saying no, there is some small hope that you can get the evidence thrown out, hope that doesn't exist if you say yes.

Alternatively, you can try to bluff them by saying yes, but that's a very high stakes poker game, and you'll almost certainly lose. But sometimes, rarely, some members on here have gotten away by saying yes. But no lawyer in the country would advise you to say yes, because then there's no possibility of excluding anything they find in court, no matter what. You're just betting that they can't find anything, which is a fool's bet. They're not stupid, they're going to find whatever you have, no matter how well you've hidden it. People lose by saying yes, all the time.

So the only way to really stay safe is to never, ever have drugs in your car ever. It's really not that hard to do.


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: nooneman]
    #27011412 - 10/30/20 03:00 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The only time is probably if you are getting drugs from your dealer short distance, and follow all driving laws.


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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] * 1
    #27022256 - 11/04/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Well as if i needed another reason to never go to Alabama. Will remember this


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