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 filthyknees
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 Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build   1
#26987215 - 10/15/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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$40 barrel off Craigslist, 1500w element, float valve, outtake, high temp rose run, pressure regulator, and some silicon and naphtha for lining the barrel to prevent rust.
Based on this build. thanks gr0wer and thanks stromrider for the spoon-feeding.
Update to include silicon lining, wiring and test run.
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 SHROOMSISAY01
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 Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: filthyknees]
#26987460 - 10/15/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You might want to buy a swamp cooler pump. That drain takes forever. Also, you are looking at over 6 hours of heat up time with a 1500 watt element. It took 6 hours for me when I had a 1650 element. Now I use 5500 watts and it takes 45 mins.
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#26987465 - 10/15/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That is not 100% silicone so I would not use that.
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filthyknees
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#26987492 - 10/15/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomsisay01  thanks for your suggestions.
On the element, I'm only gonna run it every five or six days and I don't really care if it does take six hours.
I also already had a 20amp box added so no 30 amp.
When I remake in the future these are things I will consider.
I can't believe I got the wrong silicon. :\ shit.
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: filthyknees]
#26987781 - 10/15/20 11:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Will you have rocker on top or just venting hole? How big?
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SHROOMSISAY01
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: Bsdgaou]
#26988482 - 10/16/20 01:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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No sense in having a rocker. He is not building pressure in the drum. I am sure he has a 3/8 hole or a couple 1/4" holes.
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#26988514 - 10/16/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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One last question and I will leave you alone. Did you use a hot pod for your element? and if not how are you grounding the element? If the element is not grounded it could kill you if there is a problem with the element. 120v can be more dangerous than 220v because your hands will lock around the electricity and you can not be able to let go of the voltage. 220v will knock you away although I would suggest grounding the drum on both!!
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#26988539 - 10/16/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's incorrect that 220 will knock you away. Even 480v (277 to ground) will not knock you loose. Most shock injuries are from a live wire to ground, so with 220, you have the same 115 to ground as you would with a 115v outlet.
All metal parts of ANY powered device should be well grounded to the electrical panel and also to a ground rod if it's at a remote location. (such as a drum sterilizer outdoors) This insures that if the element blows or a wire comes loose, it hits the grounded frame and immediately trips the breaker or blows the fuse.
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: RogerRabbit]
#26988636 - 10/16/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok so are you telling me all my teachers were wrong? Don't get me wrong I have never tested it out either way. But I do trust the teachers that said 120 has a better chance of making your fingers wrap around to where you can not let go...
https://www.ecmweb.com/maintenance-repair-operations/article/20898683/dont-discount-the-danger-of-120v
I have seen my father and my friend get knocked back at least 5 feet by 220v and a relative of mine was killed by 120v working on a car when the trouble light short-circuited. That light was more trouble for him than he anticipated. It brings a whole new meaning to trouble light!!
https://www.google.com/search?q=will+220+knock+you+away&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS914US914&oq=will+220+knock+you+a&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j33i160l2.13968j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I guess I used the wrong words but the effect is the same. If you become the ground and your fingers wrap around you have a better chance of getting free from 220v
Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (10/16/20 03:28 PM)
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#26988695 - 10/16/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not wanting to enter the argument. Would suggesting ground fault interrupted curcuit be the best option?
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: Quadman]
#26988784 - 10/16/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the words of advice. Thank God I have an electrician friend who will walk me through everything.
I will do as shroomsisay said and drill one or two small holes on the lid for the exhaust.
Feel free to bother away, you've already saved me once.
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: filthyknees]
#26988818 - 10/16/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes just make sure you have a ground I just want you to be safe. A hot pod is the best way I have found...
Hot Pod with lock nut and gasket...
https://www.brewhardware.com/product_p/hotpod-ewl3.htm
Hot Pod NO lock nut and gasket...
https://www.brewhardware.com/product_p/hotpod-ewl.htm
As Quadman said you could also use a GFCI but if you change to a higher wattage element you will be stuck because 220v GFCI's are expensive. Better to just have the ground.
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#26988858 - 10/16/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
SHROOMSISAY01 said:
a relative of mine was killed by 120v working on a car when the trouble light short-circuited. That light was more trouble for him than he anticipated. It brings a whole new meaning to trouble light!!
Just curious, how did he run across 120v working on a car?
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#26988861 - 10/16/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not expensive compared to electrocution.  couldn't you put a 120v GFI on both legs?
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: Forrester]
#26988882 - 10/16/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Forrester said:
Quote:
SHROOMSISAY01 said:
a relative of mine was killed by 120v working on a car when the trouble light short-circuited. That light was more trouble for him than he anticipated. It brings a whole new meaning to trouble light!!
Just curious, how did he run across 120v working on a car?
He was using a trouble light...
It happened like 40 years ago.
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#26988885 - 10/16/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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My bad, didn't know what a trouble light was! Just confused by 120v on a car.
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: Quadman]
#26988887 - 10/16/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Quadman said:
Not expensive compared to electrocution. couldn't you put a 120v GFI on both legs?
220v doesn't work like that it runs in and out of phase so that won't work. Plus my 5500-watt element uses 23 amps so it would just burn up the GFCI.
Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (10/16/20 05:22 PM)
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: Forrester]
#26988892 - 10/16/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Forrester said:
My bad, didn't know what a trouble light was! Just confused by 120v on a car.
Yeah, I figured that's why I put the pic up.
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#26990770 - 10/17/20 10:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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My drum is rusting. Is there any silicone in spray or something? Don't want to buy drums every 3 months, even if they're 10€.
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Re: Another 55 gallon drum sterilizer build [Re: Bsdgaou]
#26990860 - 10/18/20 12:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gaco 100% silicone roof coating is what I am going to use when my drum finally starts leakin. I have had my drum for over 3 years so it has lasted a long time. Otherwise you will just have to buy 100% silicone caulking and mix it with VM&P naphtha to thin it out so you can paint it on.
Once your drum is rusting if you use silicone on it it will continue to rust under the silicone so I would start with a new drum. If you don't mind expensive you can try Henry® 480 Stop Leak® 100% silicone. But it is like $22 for a 14 oz can...
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Henry-14-1-oz-Stop-Leak-Tropicool-Silicone-White-Spray-Sealer-HE880W025/303669684
Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (10/18/20 12:21 AM)
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