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Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. 1
#26987749 - 10/15/20 10:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cops in Alabama like to pull people over for no reason and start searching their cars illegally. It's common practice.
This story is all over the place because I was smoking a joint while typing so just read the whole story Here.
I have a good friend of 12 years who has since moved to the east side of the country. She visited California for vacation a couple months ago. While she was here, she bought tons of drugs to take back with her. 30 tabs of acid on candies, a few mollies, an ounce of mushrooms, and a weed vape. 4 felonies, 40 years of prison. She has no priors so she got out super lucky the day of arraignment. $6,000 fines, drug classes, 100 hours community service. She used a public defender. No more jail time other than the night she was pulled over. She has some friends who bailed her out and then told her all the stories about cops in Alabama pulling over their friends and friends of friends searching their cars without permission and finding drugs.
They pull you over either for no reason or they make something up like a broken licence plate light bulb, profile you (most of the people they seem to search have unnatural dyed hair like pink or blue or multi colored hair, my friend had dyed hair), and then they proceed to help themselves into your car and trunk and search your car. My friend said it didn't take long for them to find the drugs, they knew what they were doing and knew where to look. Found ALL the candies, mollies, shrooms, and empty vape pen at the bottom of a back pack.
Completely illegal and they could get sued civilly but the public defender told her if she ever tries to sue before her program is over, the prosecutor will most likely charge her to the full extent, weigh all the candies and everything and lock her up for 40 years to life.
Lesson learned. Drive around Alabama if you need to get to Georgie or Florida, even if you're not carrying.
Edit: I just remembered also the cops lied and said they smelled weed in the car but they never smoked in that car ever. They actually just bought the car in ca.
Edited by OutsideOfMyMind (10/16/20 01:34 AM)
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987772 - 10/15/20 11:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hmm. I live in Alabama. Usually they do have a legit reason to pull you over but not always. I got super-troopered a few years ago but I wasn't riding dirty and I was sober so nothing bad came of it. I got pulled over with weed in the car once for turning where I wasn't supposed to, but I got let go with no mention of the weed smell coming from my pocket. I got pulled over near the same intersection where I turned illegally a year later because my headlight went out on the way home. I had a gravity bong stinking to high heaven in my passenger seat and I didnt even get a ticket. Just had to show the sheriff I replaced it within a week. My county is known for being hard on drugs, too, many of my friends have misdemeanor weed charges here. Maybe I'm just lucky because it seems most cops I have interacted with are pretty reasonable and understandable.
Shit, i remember the only time i got arrested the cops basically seemed apologetic because it was for a bunch of weed and i wasn't even driving. Aside for the lame stoner jokes they lobbed at me they were pretty respectful.
My story doesn't reflect everyone else's experiences though. I'm not exceptionally good at talking to cops but I definitely dont say anything to cause them to want to fuck me harder.
It sucks, most counties in alabama still have ridiculous sentencing practices for drug possession. I have never been subjected to an illegal search, but I know it happens on purpose and by accident. Hope your friend doesn't have to serve time for possession bullshit after everything is ironed out.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: MorphinTime]
#26987776 - 10/15/20 11:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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You just reminded me. She did say that the cops lied and said they smelled weed but it did not smell at all in the car. They never smoked in that car.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987777 - 10/15/20 11:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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She also told me that these cops never ran the license plates and never even did a background or anything. They quickly charged them and put them in jail.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] 1
#26987780 - 10/15/20 11:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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They could have lied about it, but they also could have smelled it. I have never had a good and accurate sense of smell, and since I smoke my olfactory shit definitely gets hindered further. I think in a lot of cases where the defendant thought there could be no weed fragrance to smell to initiate probable cause there actually may have been even when they don't sic the hounds. As a smoker you are so acclimatized to the scent of weed that you can't smell it as well as someone who doesn't regularly partake.
Most people tell they're version of events. If your friend is female, well, cops are typically known for giving females breaks. Not everytime, not saying that, but it is sort of a thing women low key like to brag about (in my experience). Which leads me to believe that your friend was doing something that led to the eventual search where she got charged. Or possibly said something to cause the cops to want to give her a hard time
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987782 - 10/15/20 11:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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How would she know if they ran her plates? You have to have a background check before you are arrested or detained?
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: MorphinTime]
#26987794 - 10/16/20 12:01 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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MorphinTime said: How would she know if they ran her plates? You have to have a background check before you are arrested or detained?
Okay so she sort of bought the car through a different means than normal and the car was actually registered to a state other than her driver's license and other than California. I didn't ask her how she acquired the car but she was able to get it registered and everything in her state that she lives in. They would have known about this if they ran her plates. She bought the car during her vacation in ca. A nice car too I'm surprised it got pulled over. But my friend literally told me herself they did not run her plates or even check for warrants or anything or else they would have asked about the State registration.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987797 - 10/16/20 12:04 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: She did say that the cops lied and said they smelled weed but it did not smell at all in the car. They never smoked in that car.
cops do this shit all the time. happened to me a few time. one time in particular i was passing through nebraska. no weed in the car and no smoking in the car for weeks. cops tore apart my car looking for a crumb, a speck, a roach of weed.. didn't find a thing..
ive since learned my lesson but as soon as the cop said he smelled weed i became very irate and vocal about how that is a lie. that got me handcuffed and put into the back of the cop car.
fuck police.
stay out of nebraska ladies and gents.
to be fair, my brother was speeding and thats why they pulled us, but i think our long hair and peace-sign stickers got them hyped think8ng they are about to make a big weed bust.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: MorphinTime]
#26987799 - 10/16/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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MorphinTime said: They could have lied about it, but they also could have smelled it. I have never had a good and accurate sense of smell, and since I smoke my olfactory shit definitely gets hindered further. I think in a lot of cases where the defendant thought there could be no weed fragrance to smell to initiate probable cause there actually may have been even when they don't sic the hounds. As a smoker you are so acclimatized to the scent of weed that you can't smell it as well as someone who doesn't regularly partake.
Most people tell they're version of events. If your friend is female, well, cops are typically known for giving females breaks. Not everytime, not saying that, but it is sort of a thing women low key like to brag about (in my experience). Which leads me to believe that your friend was doing something that led to the eventual search where she got charged. Or possibly said something to cause the cops to want to give her a hard time
She had no actual flower weed. Only a vape pen. And they just purchased the car in California during the vacation. I could bet it probably did not smell like weed. But I know what you mean by stoners not being able to smell the weed.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987804 - 10/16/20 12:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's informative and all, thanks for explaining in more detail. However, I'm confused because I can't tell the nature of the cop stop from your posts. Are you insinuating she was initially pulled over because of an out of state tag? Cops definitely target out of state tags everywhere, if two cars are speeding or trading lanes you can bet the out of state tag is getting that long dick of the law, maybe even harder in the South, but I can't say that for sure.
Also, why is it important they didn't run her plates or complete a "background check" in this situation? If they had, that would have "cleared" her? I seriously doubt that.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: split_by_nine]
#26987808 - 10/16/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: She did say that the cops lied and said they smelled weed but it did not smell at all in the car. They never smoked in that car.
cops do this shit all the time. happened to me a few time. one time in particular i was passing through nebraska. no weed in the car and no smoking in the car for weeks. cops tore apart my car looking for a crumb, a speck, a roach of weed.. didn't find a thing..
ive since learned my lesson but as soon as the cop said he smelled weed i became very irate and vocal about how that is a lie. that got me handcuffed and put into the back of the cop car.
fuck police.
stay out of nebraska ladies and gents.
to be fair, my brother was speeding and thats why they pulled us, but i think our long hair and peace-sign stickers got them hyped think8ng they are about to make a big weed bust.
Kinda sounds like you got so pissed you asked the people who arrest people to go ahead and arrest you anyway.
I mean that sucks, you shouldn't have had to experience that because fuck the war on drugs, but, if you get very irate and vocal with cops, in a cop stop situation especially, you're gonna have a bad time.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: MorphinTime]
#26987820 - 10/16/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Driving through any state with out of state tags will draw extra attention, especially a red state. There was a stretch of interstate in Tennessee where it was widely known that state troopers were pulling people over and searching their cars, and if they found significant amounts of cash, they confiscated it and it was a complete pain in the ass getting it back. That practice eventually got investigated and shut down but it went on for years.They made millions that way.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: MorphinTime]
#26987836 - 10/16/20 12:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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MorphinTime said: That's informative and all, thanks for explaining in more detail. However, I'm confused because I can't tell the nature of the cop stop from your posts. Are you insinuating she was initially pulled over because of an out of state tag? Cops definitely target out of state tags everywhere, if two cars are speeding or trading lanes you can bet the out of state tag is getting that long dick of the law, maybe even harder in the South, but I can't say that for sure.
Also, why is it important they didn't run her plates or complete a "background check" in this situation? If they had, that would have "cleared" her? I seriously doubt that.
Sorry about that. My story is sort of all over the place because I was smoking a joint while typing it. I'm a little adhd. I was trying to get all the details but I ended up missing a few key details. Let me look at the actual text messages which are on my older phone and read the actual story on text and then get back with you in a moment.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: Baby_Hitler] 1
#26987837 - 10/16/20 12:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Basically this is the list of safe states for me :
CA WA OR CO HI
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987843 - 10/16/20 01:07 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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All good, I'm definitely fucked up at this time. And also, I'm not against your statement saying to drive around Alabama. If you got drugs on you then go around if you can afford it. However since I have lived in most states of the southeastern US, there are counties in all of these states that will fuck you hard for drug possession and you can get pulled over for profiling.
I look like a stereotypical drug user with long hair and an aversion to authority. I ride dirty sometimes because, ya know, gotta re-up. But I really dont get a lot of problems in any southeastern state.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: MorphinTime]
#26987861 - 10/16/20 01:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Imgur is a difficult piece of shit to post pictures to. It took me forever because I had to resize the pictures and white out names.
The whole conversation.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987883 - 10/16/20 01:50 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok, I read in the first message posted in the link and she admits they had a tag light out which is a legit reason to be pulled over. I read the entirety of the link too( though some messages from her are images that dont include the entire message for some reason. It sounds like your friend got fucked but I don't necessarily see where the law officers involved broke the law or overstepped legal boundaries as far as the arrest goes.
If I missed where your friend was wronged (excluding drug war bullshit) I apologize.
The last message does indicate either a miscommunication or lack of communication because the plates registered to a Cavalier that wasn't a Cavalier when it got pulled over should have registered to some ding dong at the precinct. That is both interesting and possibly not because sometimes low life employees like cops say fuck doing my job correctly. Or maybe they said fuck her she got different colored hair, she ain't from around here. Idk, man, there may be injustice here. At the same time I just havent dealt with this when I could have been dealt worse, in Alabama.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: MorphinTime]
#26987885 - 10/16/20 01:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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MorphinTime said: Ok, I read in the first message posted in the link and she admits they had a tag light out which is a legit reason to be pulled over. I read the entirety of the link too( though some messages from her are images that dont include the entire message for some reason. It sounds like your friend got fucked but I don't necessarily see where the law officers involved broke the law or overstepped legal boundaries as far as the arrest goes.
If I missed where your friend was wronged (excluding drug war bullshit) I apologize.
The last message does indicate either a miscommunication or lack of communication because the plates registered to a Cavalier that wasn't a Cavalier when it got pulled over should have registered to some ding dong at the precinct. That is both interesting and possibly not because sometimes low life employees like cops say fuck doing my job correctly. Or maybe they said fuck her she got different colored hair, she ain't from around here. Idk, man, there may be injustice here. At the same time I just havent dealt with this when I could have been dealt worse, in Alabama.
Look at the link again. I had to rearrange images. It's on the right order now. The blue texts should continue in the next image for the one that's cut off.
The grey text is me. I didn't include all of my texts, just hers in blue.
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987890 - 10/16/20 02:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I get that, I can tell from your grey texts you were attempting to be helpful.
I read all of her texts. I just don't see what is supposed to be indicative of a miscarriage of justice (excluding the fact I detest the war on drugs so she should face no possession charges).
She said her tail light was out, boom, pulled over. What happens at this point is so hard because she could be honest about her version of events, but she also could not be honest. Trust me I know people get fucked. For all I know she lost her shit and started talking to an officer in a way that doesn't help you stay living free though.
I think it behooves drug users to try to get better at talking to law officers. That doesn't excuse bad law officers at all, and I hope I don't sound like an apologist for police
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Re: Don't drive through Alabama with any amount of drugs. [Re: MorphinTime]
#26987897 - 10/16/20 02:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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To be honest her husband who was the passenger in the front seat sort of looks like a drug user. He cleans up well and is a good guy but he has that dirty beard look. I don't know, but they got fucked.
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