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following Magash's tek- rye question
    #2698778 - 05/18/04 11:43 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hi, a foaf is following Magash's tek (thanks Magash!) except with 1/2 pint jars due to the size of her pc. The rye soaked brobably 30 hrs and got a teeny bit fermented. FOAF then simmered as directed. Looks good and foaf tasted the cooked rye, tasted good but could taste the fermentation a little.  Will this affect anything?  FOAF is pc'ing the 1/2 pints now.  Also, will these work as cakes instead of casings since she is a first timer and doesn't want to complicate things too much? Thank you! :grin:


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Re: following Magash's tek- rye question [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #2698795 - 05/18/04 11:49 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Looks good and foaf tasted the cooked rye, tasted good but could taste the fermentation a little. Will this affect anything?




No.

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Also, will these work as cakes instead of casings since she is a first timer and doesn't want to complicate things too much?




Yields will be very poor due to the low water content of the rye. Case it...


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Re: following Magash's tek- rye question [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #2699034 - 05/19/04 12:33 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm....I've soaked for 30 hrs before but never noticed if I fermented them or not. Guess it don't matter cause I've never had a problem.

Myself I'd case the rye.


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Re: following Magash's tek- rye question [Re: ATWAR]
    #2699035 - 05/19/04 12:33 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Right on. Thank you for your help, Atwar. Now I just have to figure out what to case with.  Off to do lots of reading. :thumbup:


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Re: following Magash's tek- rye question [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #2699050 - 05/19/04 12:36 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

75% coir 25% verm seems to work ok.


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Re: following Magash's tek- rye question [Re: Magash]
    #2699092 - 05/19/04 12:43 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Wow! I don't think i've seen it done in reusable containers like that! Do you have a little greenhouse with a humidifier or something? Do you have more info on your casing method somewhere? Thanks for any info.


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Re: following Magash's tek- rye question [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #2699149 - 05/19/04 12:51 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I use this thing. 

Now I know that everybody says not to use clear containers.  Bullshit  Now the reason I use them and cover them with foil is this. Should I for some reason feel that a casing may be contamed I can take it out of the foil and look. That saves major time and can stop the contam at that one casing instead of waiting for the contam to come to the surface and spread spores around the chamber.

The way I do the casing layer is 75%coir 25%verm. I soak the verm in a jar like grains then strain it so it's at max moisture. I add 4 quarts of water to each coir brick. (sometimes 4 1/2). Load it into jars (qt) and pc for 2 hrs. (coir can really hide contams). Let it cool and just use it out of the jar.  :grin:

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Re: following Magash's tek- rye question [Re: Magash]
    #2699208 - 05/19/04 01:00 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

NICE!!!!! Can't verm hide contamns too? Does anyone ever pc verm? Do yo don't cover the top of each container individually, it looks like. Right on, it looks amazing. Good job.


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Re: following Magash's tek- rye question [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #2699213 - 05/19/04 01:01 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I soak the verm in a jar. Strain it, mix with the coir and then PC.  he he he.....Yeah, it can hide some nasty contams.  :thumbup: :grin:


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Re: following Magash's tek- rye question [Re: Magash]
    #2699228 - 05/19/04 01:08 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

OK- LOL- keep in mind I am new! So do you put this verm and coir mix on top and on bottom of the broken up cake? Thanks for your patience and help.


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Re: following Magash's tek- rye question [Re: Magash]
    #2699295 - 05/19/04 01:29 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Are you completely sterilising your casing materials?


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Re: following Magash's tek- rye question [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #2699817 - 05/19/04 04:47 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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OK- LOL- keep in mind I am new! So do you put this verm and coir mix on top and on bottom of the broken up cake? Thanks for your patience and help.




You can put it on both, but a bottom layer is usually unnecessary. A bottom layer is used for the purpose of adding additional water, and absorbing metabolites that the grain exudes during the growing process. Some think it is important, others say it is not. In all actuality, it doesn't hurt, and can be potentially advantageous.


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