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A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? * 1
    #26986180 - 10/15/20 01:02 AM (6 days, 8 hours ago)

Hello Community !

I am at a point in my life where I am free and ready to go live in another country (well... not really right now because of covid, but you get the idea, asap !)

I would love to live somewhere where I could grow in a legitimate way, if that is even possible.

From this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_psilocybin_mushrooms

I have the following list of countries, of particular interest to me:
Brazil, Nepal, Bahamas, Jamaica

All those places sound like a dream.
Maybe that is just a very naive dream... but I felt I had to share it.

Sometimes, just sometimes, when we share dreams, they come true.

... please share your opinions !


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Psychonotistery] * 1
    #26986198 - 10/15/20 01:14 AM (6 days, 8 hours ago)

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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Big_Dub]
    #26986259 - 10/15/20 02:05 AM (6 days, 7 hours ago)

Me posting here is part of my research :smile:

Who knows better than this community ?


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Psychonotistery]
    #26986657 - 10/15/20 11:08 AM (5 days, 22 hours ago)

in the United States, Psilocybin mushrooms have been decriminalized in Colorado. and entheogenic plants have been decriminalized in Oakland, California.

So not legal to sell and grow, but its possible (but unlikely) that in the near future this changes.


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Big_Dub]
    #26987207 - 10/15/20 04:37 PM (5 days, 16 hours ago)

Thanks for the reply.

I am aware indeed of the US recent decrim of cities.
As you said, they are not necessarily legal, meaning you can't really grow legally, less even make it a business.

That is why I am looking for insights into other countries


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Psychonotistery]
    #26987230 - 10/15/20 04:46 PM (5 days, 16 hours ago)

I don't think there's anywhere in the world where you could sell without running the risk of being arrested. In addition, in third world countries you'd also be competing with organized crime.

If you're really serious, your best bet might be the netherlands. Cubensis is illegal, but some other varieties of psilocybin containing mushroom are still legally grown and sold to locals. But you'd need a hell of a lot of money to get started in business there. Still, that's maybe the most realistic choice if you're serious about growing mushrooms for profit legally.


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Psychonotistery]
    #26987252 - 10/15/20 04:56 PM (5 days, 16 hours ago)

If you are moving specifically so you can sell shrooms as a career, you should know that in most areas where it is legal, shrooms are still regulated in some way - not to mention there is stiff competition. Drug trade is predicated on social connections, and you'd be moving to a new area where you don't know anyone, so it would take a long time to build clientele. Even in Jamaica, from what I've heard, it is mostly used in therapeutic settings. In other areas it is like US-legal marijuana. You can't sell it on your own because there are tax regulations - its still illegal for private transactions. The state wants and needs its cut, and drug taxes are usually sky-high.

Denver and Santa Cruz are two cities in the US you can move to. Shrooms are decriminalized, not legal. All that means is that the county prosecutors will NOT spend resources/time convicting people of crimes related to shrooms. So while its technically not legal to buy/sell/possess, it also means you won't be prosecuted if you are caught doing it.

Moving to a new country for the sole purpose of shrooms sounds like a terrible idea man, especially foreign countries (for an American) that you have no family, friends, or connections in. Don't make a move impulsively, don't be impetuous. Do some research.

Santa Cruz is a somewhat ritzy area so you may not be able to afford living there. Property values and property taxes are ridiculously high in CA if you are upper/middle-class. Denver is cheaper, both in taxes and property values, and it is a "developing" city in that its industry and tech growth is something of a rising star.


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? (moved) [Re: Psychonotistery]
    #26987253 - 10/15/20 04:57 PM (5 days, 16 hours ago)

This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.

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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Psychonotistery]
    #26987261 - 10/15/20 05:03 PM (5 days, 16 hours ago)

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I would love to live somewhere where I could grow in a legitimate way, if that is even possible.



In Amsterdam, one can still sell truffles above board, but I don't think there's anywhere you'll be able to have a legit business off shrooms.

Why not go with medicinal, rather than active?


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #26987276 - 10/15/20 05:14 PM (5 days, 16 hours ago)

Thanks for the reply !


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: edgar1337]
    #26987286 - 10/15/20 05:19 PM (5 days, 15 hours ago)

Thanks for the extensive reply !

"Don't make a move impulsively, don't be impetuous."
Haha, It does feel like it would be a lot of that, doesn't it...

I just love growing, and became quite decent at it.
I also believe in psychedelics as a potential to help the world and working in spreading them feels right.
I would love to grow during the day and being able to focus as well on other projects.

I don't like the idea of doing it in all secrecy/illegal and selling on the blackmarket...


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26987287 - 10/15/20 05:20 PM (5 days, 15 hours ago)

You are talking about Lion's Mane and Reishi right ?

I haven't practiced growing them, but it could be good.
Isn't it a saturated market though ?


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Psychonotistery]
    #26987328 - 10/15/20 05:46 PM (5 days, 15 hours ago)

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Isn't it a saturated market though ?



Yes, but it's at least one where you can have a completely above board company and clear business plan - including marketing far and wide - things you just can't do when trying to sell a product that is highly illegal almost everywhere.

It's a nice pipe dream, but, IMO, you should leave it as just that.


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Psychonotistery]
    #26987335 - 10/15/20 05:51 PM (5 days, 15 hours ago)

I once saw a documentary/TV show about mushroom milkshakes in Jamaica. Its my understanding that wild-picked mushrooms are legal to possess and sell in milkshakes-form in Jamaica. However, Im not sure about mushroom cultivation. Im guessing its not legal to cultivate them but Im unsure on that.

Theres a similar thing going on in Thailand/Philippines were wild-picked Cubenis and Pan Cyans are sold in "magic milkshakes" in certain areas. Again, I am unsure if its legal to cultivate them but I do know the laws are relaxed about wild active mushrooms.


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26987370 - 10/15/20 06:21 PM (5 days, 14 hours ago)

Thanks for all the inputs.
I heard in Canada it was more relaxed that in the US, there are tons of websites selling magic mushrooms.
What is your opinion on that ?


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Psychonotistery]
    #26991132 - 10/18/20 10:30 AM (2 days, 22 hours ago)

Playing with fire.


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Psychonotistery]
    #26991364 - 10/18/20 01:45 PM (2 days, 19 hours ago)

Exactly. Are you willing to risk having your freedom taken away for a long time if they decide to make an example of you?

That answer is all you need know when it comes to this decision.


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26992102 - 10/19/20 12:22 AM (2 days, 8 hours ago)

At that point any ol place is fine. Throw a dart at the map. Pretty much fucked anywhere you go.


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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: Nichrome]
    #26992500 - 10/19/20 10:45 AM (1 day, 22 hours ago)

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Re: A place in the world where it is legal to grow and sell Cubensis ? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26992637 - 10/19/20 11:59 AM (1 day, 21 hours ago)

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Again, I am unsure if its legal to cultivate them but I do know the laws are relaxed about wild active mushrooms.





Theres a similar thing going on in Thailand/Philippines were wild-picked Cubenis and Pan Cyans are sold in "magic milkshakes" in certain areas.  They are very illegal there, but the law isn't enforced evenly.

A country where they aren't regulated at all would be a good idea.  I think Brazil and Jamaica fall into this category.


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