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Mailing live culture in flat envelope
#26986174 - 10/14/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Assume I live somewhere it's legal to possess and mail live culture, but it's rare so postal workers look for it and try to steal it.
How could one mail a tiny bit of live culture of a clone in a regular letter.
Not a fat letter, a thin regular letter, that would feel like one or two pieces of paper folded 3 ways, and cost one stamp to send.
If you took a tiny bit of agar with clone growing in it, and smeared it in wax paper folded over and stuffed in side a piece of paper, would it live to get to the destination?
Same question for cloned LC, maybe soaked in a little cotton and squished into the corner of a baggie, and sealed with tape.
Would it live mailing within a country, like say 3 to 7 days. also overseas, like 10 days to 2 0r 3 weeks.
could you dry it out and revive it on the other end?
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Re: Mailing live culture in flat envelope [Re: nektar61]
#26986202 - 10/14/20 11:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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you could get spores mailed to you?
As far as a culture, it would probably get contaminated without being in a petri dish/test tube.
Maybe try to find a really tiny container like the size of a button
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Re: Mailing live culture in flat envelope [Re: Big_Dub] 1
#26986213 - 10/14/20 11:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Colonize a tiny piece of cardboard on a plate. Take out in a SAB, wrap in foil, and bag in a tiny craft baggie. Not that I would suggest shipping a live culture of an active. The suggestion provided is for legal cultures.
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Re: Mailing live culture in flat envelope [Re: Big_Dub]
#26986217 - 10/14/20 11:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Big_Dub said: you could get spores mailed to you?
As far as a culture, it would probably get contaminated without being in a petri dish/test tube.
Maybe try to find a really tiny container like the size of a button
I have spores of 8 different varieties. Grown one, working on two. Not needing spores or live culture for a good while.
Thank you.
These for coin collectors are a little thick, but might work. not sure they could be PCed, probably need to find something with the recycling 5 triangle on them. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100Pcs-6-Size-Clear-Plastic-Coin-Capsules-Coins-Containers-Boxes-Holders-Storage/282044054019
Problem is, in an envelope, it would feel like a coin, and that's something postal workers might actually open to steal.
Maybe if you cut a round hole the same shape as this container in cardboard same thickness of the coin holder, then embedded the coin holder in it?
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Re: Mailing live culture in flat envelope [Re: nektar61] 2
#26986504 - 10/15/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can easily place some colonized agar or a few grains into a ziploc bag, (they're sterile when taken out of the box due to heat of the manufacturing process, and they're shipped zipped up. This can be placed into an envelope and mailed world wide. RR
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Re: Mailing live culture in flat envelope [Re: RogerRabbit] 2
#26986524 - 10/15/20 06:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah Id put colonized millet or little agar wedges inside 00 capsules.
Cardboard would be good too. Myc is so resilient there’s plenty of ways.
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Re: Mailing live culture in flat envelope [Re: RogerRabbit]
#26986599 - 10/15/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: You can easily place some colonized agar or a few grains into a ziploc bag, (they're sterile when taken out of the box due to heat of the manufacturing process, and they're shipped zipped up. This can be placed into an envelope and mailed world wide. RR
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Re: Mailing live culture in flat envelope [Re: RogerRabbit] 1
#26986615 - 10/15/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: You can easily place some colonized agar or a few grains into a ziploc bag, (they're sterile when taken out of the box due to heat of the manufacturing process, and they're shipped zipped up. This can be placed into an envelope and mailed world wide. RR
Ive gotten plenty of cultures in tiny coke bag ziplocks. Usually a little agar wedge.
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Re: Mailing live culture in flat envelope [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#26986660 - 10/15/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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@bod and @RR those are great ideas.
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Re: Mailing live culture in flat envelope [Re: A.k.a]
#26987238 - 10/15/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: You can easily place some colonized agar or a few grains into a ziploc bag, (they're sterile when taken out of the box due to heat of the manufacturing process, and they're shipped zipped up. This can be placed into an envelope and mailed world wide. RR
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A.k.a said: Yeah Id put colonized millet or little agar wedges inside 00 capsules.
Cardboard would be good too. Myc is so resilient there’s plenty of ways.
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bodhisatta said: Ive gotten plenty of cultures in tiny coke bag ziplocks. Usually a little agar wedge.
EXCELLENT INFO. Thank you!
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Re: Mailing live culture in flat envelope [Re: nektar61] 1
#26987812 - 10/16/20 12:22 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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You mean an uranium ore? This emits alpha-radiation, which is easily shielded by any material. Just wrapping the ore in a single sheet of paper will effectively absorb all alpha particles completely, also it cannot penetrate your skin, just the first few micrometers (fortunately). So I'm quite certain the radiation never reached your LC if you used a normal glass jar. Please handle it with care, inhalation or ingestion of the ore is harmful...
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Re: Mailing live culture in flat envelope [Re: sporecap]
#26987980 - 10/16/20 06:13 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is alpha the only particle that would cause the mutations I seek? I used thorite and understand the toxicity goes beyond the radioactivity. Thank you though, always good to say that.
The guy who owns the explained how paper / skin etc blocks alpha, but we put the rock in a different jar, and measured with his Geiger counter and it was ticking fast through the jar. We threw that jar out.
"the decay of thorium through its radioactive progeny does produce significant gamma and beta radiation." https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q11530.html
Uranium gives those off also. but less in the natural form.
This says gamma rays are used to mutate plant pollen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation_breeding#Mature_pollen_treated_with_gamma_radiation
I know fungi are not plants, but I am hoping the same applies.
My friend explained that heavy metals are toxic like lead is toxic. We wore gloves, threw the gloves out, same with mask.
Though less toxicity with thorite than uranium due to thorium's low solubility.
We never took the sample out of the plastic baggie he keeps it in.
The LC is starting to grow on grain now. Maybe there's no mutations, but maybe it killed all but the strongest, and I can clone that.
Here's a pic taken during the 7 days of irradiation (started 3 days into the LC grow):

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Re: Mailing live culture in flat envelope [Re: sporecap]
#26989146 - 10/16/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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sporecap said: You mean an uranium ore? This emits alpha-radiation, .....
Sorry to double reply, but figure it's OK since I started the thread and don't mind, lol.
But I found this of interest; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_gardening
Atomic Gardening. That's the concept that inspired this. Also says it uses Gamma radiation, which my source produces, and will pass through glass and plastic.
I never read that page but knew the concept. It's fallen out of favor. Probably because it may have been one of those cold war "let's use radiation for peaceful use so we can still have highly refined ore metals and say it's not for bombs."
That was common until about 1960 to 1965, until nuclear power plants became more common and they used that as the excuse instead.
Not that nuclear power isn't good, but nuclear anything is a PR nightmare.
So it's helpful to say "We'll use radiation for Boy Scouts to grow mutated seeds for a merit badge" and "We'll using atomic bombs for mining", and "We'll use atomic rockets to go to Mars" ...You know, all those and other "Operation Plowshares" schemes the US Army invented. lol.
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