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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #26999447 - 10/23/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

defensive apprehension after exposure to socialites at every gate.


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26999836 - 10/23/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Alan Watts: "Anytime you voluntarily let up control, in other words cease to cling to yourself, you have an access of power. Because you're wasting energy all the time in self defense, trying to manage things, trying to force things to conform to your will. The moment you stop doing that, that wasted energy is available. And therefore you are in that sense, having that energy available, you are one with the divine principle, you have the energy! When you are trying however to act as if you are god, that is to say you don’t trust anybody, you are the dictator, you have to keep everybody in line, you lose the divine energy. Because what you are doing is simply defending yourself.


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #26999916 - 10/23/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

how can a man be wrong and right at the same time - that is how I see Allan Watts.

personally I think he uses too many words in his sentences and too many sentences on a page and too many books altogether.


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27000111 - 10/23/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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how can a man be wrong and right at the same time - that is how I see Allan Watts.

personally I think he uses too many words in his sentences and too many sentences on a page and too many books altogether.





That was my eventual opinion of Swedenborg; The guy sure knew how to stretch an idea out to book-length.


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27000186 - 10/23/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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how can a man be wrong and right at the same time - that is how I see Allan Watts.

personally I think he uses too many words in his sentences and too many sentences on a page and too many books altogether.




He came from that beat generation where there was an entrepreneurial spirit, some degree of ambition to make money.  America + Britain + Academia + [need money for booze and drugs] = Alan Watts.

I was in University for a couple years and had to read a Charles Dickens book. I was negatively amazed by how many words he used to describe the most basic thing. It was like nothing was happening, but the density of words was beyond anything I had ever seen before, and I didn't like it at all. 

I did some research on Dickens to figure out why I disliked the density of the language, and lo and behold, I found out Dickens was paid commission for the diversity/quantity of words. The more words he used, the more he got paid.  Money obviously corrupts the purity / clarity / fairness of communication.  Dickens later, reportedly, had put his first wife into an asylum so he could start fresh with a new mistress.


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #27000212 - 10/23/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

the dickens is a punishment we avoided as kids.


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27000923 - 10/24/20 08:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'm really upset by some family members who tried to get me involuntary committed. They used the police and psychiatrists in an effort to try and take my apartment, my cat, my life from me. I threatened legal aid and managed to make it back from the psyche ward to my apartment. Who knows if the cops are going to show up again. If it happens again, I'm just going to have to get better at threatening to use a lawyer. No more trips to the psyche ward for me. I'll be standing before the judge before I take another trip in the ambulance.  And the government psychiatrists and therapists are not helpful at all.  I don't know how someone can spend their life spying on another adult and trying to force someone to live a certain way. Some of my latest music: 




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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


Edited by Cory Duchesne (10/24/20 08:09 AM)


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #27001096 - 10/24/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Psyche Wards are an excuse to milk Social Security, imo.


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #27001296 - 10/24/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The professionals who get paid top dollar to run the psyche wards are paid tax payer money, and what do they do with their time at work?  Where do they derive their life's meaning? Their profession entails intruding, trampling and exploiting the perceived errors of people like C.D.



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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #27001307 - 10/24/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Psyche Wards are an excuse to milk Social Security, imo.





Here's PKD speaking about something relevant to psyche wards, professionals paid with money collected by government:




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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #27001309 - 10/24/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

prison usually.

behavior too difficult for society, capture, contain, and restrict or bind.


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27001334 - 10/24/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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prison usually.

behavior too difficult for society, capture, contain, and restrict or bind.




Here they're pre-emptive strikes to get one on medication and doctor visits, arguably unnecessary yet catering to demand.


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #27001361 - 10/24/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

“If you want a definition of what a coward is, it’s needing to push a whole class of people down so that you can walk on top of them.”
― Andrea Dworkin, Life and Death


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #27005664 - 10/27/20 03:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #27217595 - 02/20/21 10:51 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Here is some origin music, music mixed with origins, some originals passing by, passing over, passing through.     



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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #27218961 - 02/21/21 06:06 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Cory Duchesne said:
I'm really upset by some family members who tried to get me involuntary committed. They used the police and psychiatrists in an effort to try and take my apartment, my cat, my life from me. I threatened legal aid and managed to make it back from the psyche ward to my apartment. Who knows if the cops are going to show up again. If it happens again, I'm just going to have to get better at threatening to use a lawyer. No more trips to the psyche ward for me. I'll be standing before the judge before I take another trip in the ambulance.  And the government psychiatrists and therapists are not helpful at all.  I don't know how someone can spend their life spying on another adult and trying to force someone to live a certain way.




So that's what all this is really about.
Sorry for your troubles.
Only advice I can offer
is obvious, but not pleasant,
& you already know it,
so really its just encouragement:
(If it can happen once ,
possibly it could again),
so prepare ahead,
like you said,
finding a lawyer you trust
ahead of time....
ie. now


Edited by laughingdog (02/21/21 06:15 PM)


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: laughingdog]
    #27237727 - 03/04/21 08:44 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

new music for those who enjoy this kind:



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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: hard feelings | by Macalester Bell [Re: laughingdog]
    #27422183 - 08/10/21 07:19 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


Edited by Cory Duchesne (04/08/22 08:00 PM)


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