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Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush?
    #26984307 - 10/13/20 11:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Edit, Decided to do this, did journal entry, will add to that if I get pins or not, pix are here:
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Be kinda crazy if it worked well, wouldn't it?
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I'm on to my second and third grows now, from spores to agar to grain. One is happily colonizing a verm/coir tub, the other is starting growth on grain from LC made from agar.

BUT...the first grow I strarted, in July, from a spore syringe, B+, it had an OK first and second flush, did the soak / drain between each one, even had some side and bottom shrooms to harvest and clean off. 

But third flush is ONE shroom. lol.

There is no contam that I can see or smell. I think the sub is just exhausted. It's shrunk a lot from the tub and seems like there's no food left. But when I dug up a chunk of the tub, there is a lot of mycelium, like it's mostly white healthy mycelium, not sub in the tub. Smells slightly of mushrooms, looks good. 

Should I boil  water, pour on coir in a bucket, mix in verm, let cool, and then mix this mycelium in? Would that likely start growing? Do people do that?

Or is it time to bury in the woods near where the hobos live by the railroad track, and concentrate on the other two grows?

#ShroomTheBums

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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #26984319 - 10/13/20 11:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Or is it time to bury in the woods near where the hobos live by the railroad track, and concentrate on the other two grows?

#ShroomTheBums





Yes, that part. 😘

What you described is not a thing.

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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: Becky G. Spot]
    #26984398 - 10/14/20 01:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What BG said.

Also what you could do is.. Try it and make a journal out it and post it to your profile blog!
Experiment! The most you'll get out of it is knowledge jah feel?


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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: RhYzo]
    #26984418 - 10/14/20 02:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Sigh4.fg said:
What BG said.

Also what you could do is.. Try it and make a journal out it and post it to your profile blog!
Experiment! The most you'll get out of it is knowledge jah feel?




Thank you. Will do it tomorrow after work. I am fine with experimenting, just wanted to make sure wasn't a sure waste of sub, if someone had tried it and it was a bust for some reason.

Be kinda crazy if it worked well, wouldn't it?
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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #26984427 - 10/14/20 02:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

#ShroomTheBums Nice. That's right up my ally. Trust me. We appreciate it.

I'm more than down to see you try it but i don't see you getting anywhere. Just being honest. I'm the first to admit there are many many aspects of rainbow farming that we haven't mastered.

Based on the fact that your tub hasn't contaminated, my first thought would be that it's out of water and or nutrients. Why else would it quit growing... something?


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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26984807 - 10/14/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm the first to admit there are many many aspects of rainbow farming that we haven't mastered.




Ditto.


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Based on the fact that your tub hasn't contaminated, my first thought would be that it's out of water and or nutrients. Why else would it quit growing... something?




Double Ditto.

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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26985107 - 10/14/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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#ShroomTheBums Nice. That's right up my ally. Trust me. We appreciate it.

I'm more than down to see you try it but i don't see you getting anywhere. Just being honest. I'm the first to admit there are many many aspects of rainbow farming that we haven't mastered.

Based on the fact that your tub hasn't contaminated, my first thought would be that it's out of water and or nutrients. Why else would it quit growing... something?




It's not out of water, I think it's out of nutrients. That's why I'm going to add more nutrients.

Will document with pix over coming weeks on my journal entry.


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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26985110 - 10/14/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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#ShroomTheBums Nice. That's right up my ally. Trust me. We appreciate it.

I'm more than down to see you try it but i don't see you getting anywhere. Just being honest. I'm the first to admit there are many many aspects of rainbow farming that we haven't mastered.

Based on the fact that your tub hasn't contaminated, my first thought would be that it's out of water and or nutrients. Why else would it quit growing... something?




It's not out of water, I think it's out of nutrients. That's why I'm going to add more nutrients.

Will document with pix over coming weeks on my journal entry.

The reason I think it will work is because it works sometimes when people bury spent helium in their garden. They're adding more nutrients, that is, the soil in the garden.

When people do that, maybe would be smart to add some agricultural crop that fixes nitrogen from the air to the soil near by!

I never have geld to give the bums, and probably wouldn't anyway. But I've slept rough a few nights in my life, and would have liked something to warm up my brain other than alcohol.

I'm really going to do that at some point.


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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: nektar61] * 2
    #26985177 - 10/14/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What you're referring to is called super spawning. Yes, "its a thing" but not really. You don't see it here often because its not very productive. I suggest you use your clean grain and clean sub for a new clean grow and get the most out of your investments.


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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: nektar61]
    #26985180 - 10/14/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I know you started ignoring me on my first day here for whatever reason lol, but I will say anyways that I look forward to seeing this documented. :cheers:

(Will she even see this comment if she is ignoring me? I'm not saying that this was why she started ignoring me on day one, I don't know her at all, but most hate I receive in life is from females that are mad when they see me owning my life, and my sexuality. It apparently stirs up some deep seated resentment I can't do anything to fix, because so often what they are mad at, isn't even me... Just misdirected angst or insecurities. Took me quite a while to figure out that it's not me lol. When I was younger I had a complex because I didn't know why girls hated me. Now I know its more that they hate themselves, or they hate my sense of freedom in my own skin. Growing up with all brothers in a shitty neighborhood has it's silver linings for some people I guess. I can hang with the boys, and don't sweat the small stuff. I am who I am. :shrug:)

Not jumping to any conclusions, maybe it was an accidental ignore? Who knows...?

Mush Love Nektar.



Quote:

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What you're referring to is called super spawning. Yes, "its a thing" but not really. You don't see it here often because its not very productive. I suggest you use your clean grain and clean sub for a new clean grow and get the most out of your investments.




Yeah when I said it's not a thing, that is more what I meant. Not a thing in normal cultivation circles / normal cult practices in home cube growing. "Not a productive thing" would have been a better way to put it.

:heart:XOXOX:heart:


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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26985535 - 10/14/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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What you're referring to is called super spawning. Yes, "its a thing" but not really. You don't see it here often because its not very productive. I suggest you use your clean grain and clean sub for a new clean grow and get the most out of your investments.




Other posts here say "super spawing" is something completely different, that is's using grain spawn. I'm not asking about that.

Anyway, I get that you get what I'm doing, and appreciate the "don't bother, start with clean", as I said I'm already going that.

Also, I didn't see your post and just got done doing my thing, so I will report about how it works out. lol.

Thank you.

Before starting: 3rd flush, only 1 shroom in a month in two shoeboxy tubs.



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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: Becky G. Spot]
    #26985557 - 10/14/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I know you started ignoring me on my first day here for whatever reason lol, but I will say anyways that I look forward to seeing this documented. :cheers:

(Will she even see this comment if she is ignoring me? I'm not saying that this was why she started ignoring me on day one, I don't know her at all, but most hate I receive in life is from females that are mad when they see me owning my life, and my sexuality. It apparently stirs up some deep seated resentment I can't do anything to fix, because so often what they are mad at, isn't even me... Just misdirected angst or insecurities. Took me quite a while to figure out that it's not me lol. When I was younger I had a complex because I didn't know why girls hated me. Now I know its more that they hate themselves, or they hate my sense of freedom in my own skin. Growing up with all brothers in a shitty neighborhood has it's silver linings for some people I guess. I can hang with the boys, and don't sweat the small stuff. I am who I am. :shrug:)

Not jumping to any conclusions, maybe it was an accidental ignore? Who knows...?

Mush Love Nektar.



Quote:

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What you're referring to is called super spawning. Yes, "its a thing" but not really. You don't see it here often because its not very productive. I suggest you use your clean grain and clean sub for a new clean grow and get the most out of your investments.




Yeah when I said it's not a thing, that is more what I meant. Not a thing in normal cultivation circles / normal cult practices in home cube growing. "Not a productive thing" would have been a better way to put it.

:heart:XOXOX:heart:




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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #26985565 - 10/14/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I wish you all the best but don't have high hopes. Thanks for doing it though. There's only one way to learn.


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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #26985567 - 10/14/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The analogy I've always used for this is, that a spent sub is like a person at the end of their life.  Feeding grandma a gigantic whole ham on her deathbed is not going to put a spring in her step.  She's tired.  Let her pass on.


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    #26985572 - 10/14/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Becky said:
I know you started ignoring me on my first day here for whatever reason lol, but I will say anyways that I look forward to seeing this documented. :cheers:

(Will she even see this comment if she is ignoring me? I'm not saying that this was why she started ignoring me on day one, I don't know her at all, but most hate I receive in life is from females that are mad when they see me owning my life, and my sexuality. It apparently stirs up some deep seated resentment I can't do anything to fix, because so often what they are mad at, isn't even me... Just misdirected angst or insecurities. Took me quite a while to figure out that it's not me lol. When I was younger I had a complex because I didn't know why girls hated me. Now I know its more that they hate themselves, or they hate my sense of freedom in my own skin. Growing up with all brothers in a shitty neighborhood has it's silver linings for some people I guess. I can hang with the boys, and don't sweat the small stuff. I am who I am. :shrug:)

Not jumping to any conclusions, maybe it was an accidental ignore? Who knows...?

Mush Love Nektar.



Quote:

Grimsweeper said:
What you're referring to is called super spawning. Yes, "its a thing" but not really. You don't see it here often because its not very productive. I suggest you use your clean grain and clean sub for a new clean grow and get the most out of your investments.




Yeah when I said it's not a thing, that is more what I meant. Not a thing in normal cultivation circles / normal cult practices in home cube growing. "Not a productive thing" would have been a better way to put it.

:heart:XOXOX:heart:




Will now ;P




I saw it, since there was a reply people replied to.

Inocuole:
It's kind of creepy to re-post an ignored person to make the person who blocked them see it. Kinda uncool. On some boards it would be a violation of TOS. Probably isn't here, but NO MEANS NO.

Since I'm put on the spot of why I ignored her, I'll reply but don't give me shit for defending myself.

I almost always ignore people who are overtly sexual in their presentation online on non-sexual sites, since they often seem to have a LOOK AT ME! component, and I find that tedious.

And she already did what I blocked her for, started to tell us her life story in her "why do people hate me"? reply.

I'm not throwing hate at her, I just don't want to see her.

Inocuole, don't be a creeper. 


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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: nektar61]
    #26985577 - 10/14/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

So you're judging people without knowing them at all, got it.  Carry on. :thumbup:


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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: Inocuole]
    #26985603 - 10/14/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You do you, boo.... obviously. I will say though, she seems quite pleasant.


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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #26985607 - 10/14/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Inocule,

I started a friendly thread about advancing tek. But you, and maybe also Becky, are sidetracking it and throwing shade at me.

Read these site rules here,
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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: nektar61]
    #26985648 - 10/14/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I know you won't see this...

Sorry hun, there was no shade thrown. I'm just over here living...

Do your thang boo boo.

Consider me banished from your consciousness effective immediately.

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Anyways,

We all have our personal baggage and if hers keeps her from wanting to know that a girl "like me" is floating around on these boards then that's her cross to bear. No skin off my back. People feel how they feel. Sounds exhausting though. I wish her the best. :shrug:

Getting the thread back on track now... Soooo, how about them added substrates? :lol:

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Re: Adding fresh substrait to grow after last flush? [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26985649 - 10/14/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You do you, boo.... obviously. I will say though, she seems quite pleasant.




I'm here for the science. I read most things you post, because you have the science.

I strongly believe that ignoring people is something more people should do more of. It's how to avoid drama online. And in real life.

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