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RE: Morning Glories
#26983471 - 10/13/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just wondering if anyone knows what the effects of eating morning glory seed pods while they are still green. Do the seed pods have to have turned brown before the seeds produce the ergonovine. I've just eaten one tiny pod (I'm daring), and feel little but a slight increase in heart rate.
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Re: RE: Morning Glories [Re: juedz]
#26983499 - 10/13/20 02:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I believe I have read on Erowid that green seed pods are indeed active and have less side effects than black/brown seeds.
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Gross from what I recall, kind of like a hang over, very dry mouthy.
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Re: RE: Morning Glories [Re: Yokal]
#26984564 - 10/14/20 06:37 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks. They sure are easier to ingest. Not sure of what experience I would have it I ate more than 2, but after the 2 I did feel a somewhat dreamy state. Will report back later.
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Re: RE: Morning Glories [Re: juedz]
#26987229 - 10/15/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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2 seeds? That is way too low. Typically, a low dose consists of 50 to 100 seeds: https://erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory_dose.shtml
If u want a real experience, i would start around 50 seeds fresh. But if you want to microdose them, thats fine too.
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I've also been doing a little research into morning glory seeds lately (I'm working my way towards a psychedelic experience with them, as it's obviously possible given the info that's out there). From what I've read, I also recommend doing an extraction rather than just eating the seeds raw. Some people have reported really unpleasant side effects when eating the seeds raw. This is especially the case if you are using treated seeds. Some distributors will coat their morning glory seeds with antifungal chemicals, which can be poisonous for humans. Use organic or untreated seeds for the best results.
From what I've seen, the best way to extract LSA (the psychedelic compound you want) from morning glory seeds is to do an alcohol extraction method, which makes use of naptha and alcohol. The only problem with this method is that you'll be left over with an alcoholic beverage containing LSA, and I don't drink alcohol, so I've been looking into other methods.
The option I'm probably going to go for is a water extraction method, where you grind up the seeds into a fine powder (using a coffee grinder or similar device), soak the results in water for a long time (up to 48 hours), and strain the solid matter out of the liquid. Then, you can drink the results. Unfortunately, it seems like people experience some nausea with this method, but some people recommend soaking the powder with garlic to help with this.
I'm not in any rush to have an LSA trip, so I'm probably going to do a lot more research before I try it out, but hopefully this helps point you in the right direction, OP.
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Yes, extractions are a MUST for Morning Glory seeds. However, there is an exception: fresh, non-matured green seeds. Those you can eat raw since they are so fresh.
My favorite method for extraction LSA from Morning Glory is still the Methanol extraction method. See my Signature or Journal for more info. My second favorite is a Cold Water Extraction with the seed powder strained from the water. Its a really effective method with minimal side effects.
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LogicaL Chaos said: My favorite method for extraction LSA from Morning Glory is still the Methanol extraction method. See my Signature or Journal for more info.
Hell yeah, dude, thank you 
Edit: I think I'll probably begin with a cold-water extraction. I don't think I have enough experience to be working with Methanol right now haha.
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Understood. Its not for noobs (as stated in my Journal/Signature as well).
If you do go with the CWE, get some amber glass jars. They prevent the LSA from being destroyed by any ambient light. Also, while extracting, place jar inside the fridge and shake/swirl on a regular basis (such as once an hour) for 12-24 hours.
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LogicaL Chaos said: Understood. Its not for noobs (as stated in my Journal/Signature as well).
If you do go with the CWE, get some amber glass jars. They prevent the LSA from being destroyed by any ambient light. Also, while extracting, place jar inside the fridge and shake/swirl on a regular basis (such as once an hour) for 12-24 hours. 
I happen to have a few amber glass jars lying around haha. I've also read that covering a regular jar with foil will help.
I've also read that placing a clove or two of garlic in with the water can help reduce nausea, but I'm skeptical. Seems to me like the best way to reduce nausea is to filter out as much of the plant matter as you can from the final solution. What do you think about that?
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Yes filtering is best. I do know fresh ginger can help with stomach sickness. If u like ginger, feel free to add it. The addition of ginger shouldnt affect the potency of the extraction.
And covering the jar also works but amber is the easiest
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I love ginger. Sweet. I actually just got my seeds delivered this morning, so I'm excited to try them out when I have a free day for tripping
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Awesome! Im excited to see how it turns out
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LogicaL Chaos said: Awesome! Im excited to see how it turns out 
What dosage would you recommend for a beginner with Morning Glory seeds? I'm reasonably experienced with psilocybin and LSD, so I'm not new to the psychedelic experience. I'm planning on using about 4 grams of seeds for the extract.
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4 grams is a decent dose 
I like to refer to Erowid for dosing. I find it quite accurate: https://erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory_dose.shtml
If you want a strong, LSD-Like experience, try 6-7 grams and up. For a more mellow introductory dose, try 3-4 grams.
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That's usually where I look for dosage information as well. Erowid is a fantastic resource. They also have a paper by Albert Hofmann about Morning Glory seeds there, which I'm about to read before going to bed tonight. Thanks for your help, fellow psychonaut. Love this community
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No problem man. I wish the best for your Morning Glory journey 
And yes, Erowid is an amazing, super-useful resource, especially for Morning Glories. Theres a little bit of info on Morning Glories here, but not nearly as much as Erowid has.
But when it comes to Shrooms, the Shroomery is definitely King
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