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Re: Am I addicted to phenibut? Insomnia... [Re: Psion]
#26992310 - 10/19/20 05:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I appreciate what you were trying to get across but when you implied that you knew how my mind is, that's where it felt like my psychiatrist telling me I'm wrong in what I experience.
I'm glad you could change! I am not trying to be what I was, I am just merely trying to stay comfortable now.
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"Yo yo just here to spread my clit and show ya'll what a wonderful and free being we are all inside lets take the acid and turn inside into the outside come on over baby lets smell the roses ohh ohh come on we're about to get lit show my undies to your baby I'll hug it down three times go around frown come on we aint a nice clown kiss me upside down down down come on sorry if you cant handle my wokeness come on lets take her panties off write shroomery on my asshole and taste it lick it make if feel like we was 1978 come on baby lets do the locamotion"-Twig dude
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Psion
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every experience changes you in life. everything. you can't ever get back to where you were, but you don't have to let phenibut be what defines you for life either. so long as you are capable of making a choice, of learning a new thing, you are capable of altering even this, of winning against your anxiety.
i'm not saying it's going to be an easy (hell no it's not, as someone who's fought depression i know just how laughably weak a weapon "just think positive thoughts!" is against that monster) nor quick (again, it took me over a decade to beat it - and it took a psychedelic trip to actually make a breakthrough and "see the forest for the trees" for me).
i just saw that initial post of you mentioning that the drug ruined you, and was worried, fearing that you had given up hope on yourself. one should never settle for second best and merely learning to live with pain/anxiety/depression/fears when given the choice, in my opinion. as far as i'm concerned, be a Karen here - bitch at your mind until it gives up and finally gives you what you want.
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Re: Am I addicted to phenibut? Insomnia... [Re: Psion]
#26993909 - 10/20/20 03:04 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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You still don't understand.
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"Yo yo just here to spread my clit and show ya'll what a wonderful and free being we are all inside lets take the acid and turn inside into the outside come on over baby lets smell the roses ohh ohh come on we're about to get lit show my undies to your baby I'll hug it down three times go around frown come on we aint a nice clown kiss me upside down down down come on sorry if you cant handle my wokeness come on lets take her panties off write shroomery on my asshole and taste it lick it make if feel like we was 1978 come on baby lets do the locamotion"-Twig dude
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I'm sorry to hear about all that man. I would also like to think it's nothing permanent but I have no idea. Have you ever seen a therapist for it or anything like that? I'm gonna be in a similar boat as you one day when I inevitably quit kratom. I'm also afraid I'm doing/have done permanent damage to my brain. If that's the case I guess I'm just gonna take the shit for the rest of my life. And if they ban it where I live I guess I'll be moving to a place where it's legal. It's a shame I've let something like this take control of my life.
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Re: Am I addicted to phenibut? Insomnia... [Re: Complexicated]
#26994890 - 10/20/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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it is seductive and seemingly innocuous... until it isn't
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Re: Am I addicted to phenibut? Insomnia... [Re: pslyke]
#26994914 - 10/20/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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pslyke said: it is seductive and seemingly innocuous... until it isn't
And I thought I did my research before going all in on it too. Saw a couple videos of people saying it was no worse than a caffeine addiction. Withdraw symptoms included "cold-like symptoms and a runny nose". I was like "pshhh I can handle that shit". Ima take it everyday! I shoulda dug a little deeper in my research.
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Re: Am I addicted to phenibut? Insomnia... [Re: Complexicated]
#26995657 - 10/21/20 02:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Complexicated said: I'm sorry to hear about all that man. I would also like to think it's nothing permanent but I have no idea. Have you ever seen a therapist for it or anything like that? I'm gonna be in a similar boat as you one day when I inevitably quit kratom. I'm also afraid I'm doing/have done permanent damage to my brain. If that's the case I guess I'm just gonna take the shit for the rest of my life. And if they ban it where I live I guess I'll be moving to a place where it's legal. It's a shame I've let something like this take control of my life.
I've not read about kratom causing permanent damage but I'm not 100%. The thing is I can't take phenibut any more. It used to completely get rid of my anxiety but now it sends me into full psychosis with insane anxiety from the smallest amount. It's crazy to me because I would have never thought that phenibut could do anything but get rid of my anxiety. It affects your brain similar to how gabapentin does, which can also cause permanent damage.
I have talked about it with doctors and a Psychiatrist. They don't know anything about it and the Psychiatrist thought I was stupid. Tried many different medications for depression/anxiety and they all made me worse besides one that didn't really do much but give me head aches and give me worse insomnia than I already have.
I hope kratom doesn't fuck your brain up brother. Good luck!
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