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OfflineVibe_Enthusiast
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    #26982781 - 10/13/20 05:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

What's up my beautiful people. Has been awhile since I've been posting actively.. life has just been busy and I haven't been able to dive into the realm of my subconscious lately also!

Anyway - I know I'm due for a trip. Things have just been feeling a little off in my head lately. Just the repetition of doing the same thing and not having enough hours in the day to really get what I want done.

I'm not depressed, but I'm not happy. I feel like people throw the word "depressed" around whenever things aren't going their way. I feel like I am in the middle land. I just have been feeling unhappy lately and not sure why.

I know its completely normal as a human being to have this time where you're feeling not like yourself as you self analyze and try and fit the culprit of the reason.

Anyway, I usually only trip when my headspace is favorable toward a positive experience. I've always told myself I won't trip if I'm feeling "off". I've been re-reading "how to change your mind" by Michael Pollan and I always forget how well of a tool these can be used for the exact situation I am in right now.

Though, my ego has been fighting me "no, don't take them you won't like what happens". Its quite frustrating. I want to.. but that damn voice in my head. I do pretty well quieting that voice in my head when it makes me feel negative about myself, but these past two months or so its just been a rough patch. We all have it happen at some point.

Have you guys ever taken psychedelics while you were in a odd headspace? Just.. unhappy? Was your outcome blissful? Reroute your thoughts process after? Guess all in all, just trying to feel like I'm not alone.

Appreciate all of you in this awesome community.

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Re: That weird in-between [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26982796 - 10/13/20 06:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

If you accept your in-between-ness as it is you should be fine.

there is no lie to 'as-it-is-ness'.


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Re: That weird in-between [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26982810 - 10/13/20 06:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My last decent trip this year back in February with fresh Mazatapec was under the same circumstances. I felt so low that I had no option but to trip. Learnt nothing from the trip but woke up feeling amazing and happy again; re-focussed.

The rest of this year I’ve struggled though. Pre trip anxiety levels have returned to newbie levels! After weeks and weeks of thinking about tripping and working through the nerves, o eventually dosed last Friday. But at the last minute I decided not to drink the full tea!

Anyway the mushrooms kicked in after about 30 mins but I instinctively knew it wasn’t going to be that strong. So the anxiety was completely removed however I still wanted to breakthrough to never land. So I smoked all my joints that I normally roll for the comedown; smoked them on the come up. What a wonderful, low anxiety, high energy rave type trip. I danced solid for over 2 hours, which is amazing at my age.

I know it was a cop out, but it served it’s purpose of getting me back on the wagon. I’m therefore aiming to follow up this week with 4g dry followed a couple weeks later by a full 5g. That’ll be the first 5g in almost 4nyears!

Take care brother
DJ Ed


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Re: That weird in-between [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26982841 - 10/13/20 07:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

As someone so aptly pointed out to me, a lot of people are feeling less than ideal due to the state of the world today, myself included.

Here's my story about my first psychedelic experience (where I was at my lowest point in life)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26826710

And, although I was in such an emotionally low place, it was life changing in the best of ways.

I know people say don't trip when you're in a depressed or negative headspace. But I think that the individual needs to assess if they're in a space where they are willing to be open, irregardless of the height of their emotional stature at the moment.

So if you feel like you can work with it, take the leap. I took 1.5g of APEs last week, being in this sort of rut I feel i've been in, and I had the most intense psychedelic experience I've ever had. It was frightening at many points but I was able to work within this space for some personal improvement even though I wasn't in a perfect headspace going in.


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Re: That weird in-between [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26983115 - 10/13/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
If you accept your in-between-ness as it is you should be fine.

there is no lie to 'as-it-is-ness'.



This is great.
And that's kind of how I find that I have to be rolling when I'm in that limbo headspace.
If too much of the resistance makes it to the foreground of my thought, I'm almost guaranteed to have an uncomfortable trip - albeit, often those uncomfortable trips help me into a better space, it's more often that it's just unpleasant and I take a day or so to get over that dissatisfaction and then start from point A with that flat headspace.
But, if I make an effort to reach that tranquil (mind you, ambivalent), meditative sort of space where you're just letting what is be, having a dose is often exactly what the doctor called for to at least give me some kind of direction.

I would add that, making things quiet is quite the oxymoron. Not to dismiss the ability to quiet negative thoughts - that's a necessary skill - but there is a noted difference between hushing and dissipation. If I've denied myself my negativity for a long time, that can erupt, too, if I happen to mistakenly think I've allowed myself to reach quiet.


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Re: That weird in-between [Re: footpath]
    #26983177 - 10/13/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

hushing does not work well for me, but paying attention to what's around me and my breath in the moment usually blows persisting bugs away.


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Re: That weird in-between [Re: redgreenvines] * 2
    #26983206 - 10/13/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

For sure.
It's a practice I wish I could always have the ability to do, but, sometimes, I just need to not face the barrage in order to make it through a day.


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Re: That weird in-between [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26983694 - 10/13/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Like many people, things in my life changed earlier this year and this was partly the reason for making me finally taking the leap with a first proper shroom trip. I did end up waiting some months though until I wasn't in as bad of a head space and was more mentally ready.

I am a newcomer, but I reckon this is a good way to think of it:

Quote:

Socrateshroom said:

I know people say don't trip when you're in a depressed or negative headspace. But I think that the individual needs to assess if they're in a space where they are willing to be open, irregardless of the height of their emotional stature at the moment.






Maybe you won't like some of what happens but that's OK if you don't go in with full on expectations. Put it this way: you won't take them if you don't want to. Trust that if you do decide to take the plunge now or when you're feeling a bit off, there's a good reason.

Happy tripping when you do feel ready :heart::sporedrop:


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Re: That weird in-between [Re: maxmelt]
    #26983730 - 10/13/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

For me, I started using Psilocybin because I was in that "not myself" depressive mindspace for a long period, and I'd read up on the use of psychedelics for depression.

I've only ever had threshold microdoses so far; very light trips at 'level 1' or below. And it did help me improve my mood, come back to ground, and get comfortable with myself and my life. YMMV.

I would be slower to try a full 'trip' if I were in that headspace, because I'd worry about the possibility of a bad trip. But then, if I could set the time aside and feel safe and secure, maybe if I knew I _needed_ a bad trip to get through something then I'd just bite the bullet.. I've read of others doing so and finding it was exactly what they needed for therapy.


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Re: That weird in-between [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26984488 - 10/14/20 04:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

For me Mushroom always is a friend guiding me towards better living. No matter what situation I'm in.
:heart:


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-- Alan Watts --


Edited by MrStinkyShrooman (10/14/20 04:29 AM)


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Re: That weird in-between [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26984490 - 10/14/20 04:34 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Vibe_Enthusiast said:
Have you guys ever taken psychedelics while you were in a odd headspace? Just.. unhappy? Was your outcome blissful? Reroute your thoughts process after? Guess all in all, just trying to feel like I'm not alone.




With mushrooms in particular. Those are the times where I most feel I should take a dose.
It almost always enables me to guide myself out of that kind of headspace by diving deep into what is causing it in the first place.

I've had an instance where It felt like a giant oak of despondency which had been slowly growing for years. Had been completely uprooted with a single experience that was dedicated to facing the deep subconscious problem at hand. That feeling almost brought me to tears of relief and is one of the main reasons why I still use them quite often.


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Re: That weird in-between [Re: Nickoloxious] * 1
    #26987296 - 10/15/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This has been a strange year for everyone due to the pandemic and all this global stuff going on.

A lot of times I have had to postpone a trip due to my mood or something else.

What I've been doing is taking lower dosages so I can still get in my head but without losing reality too much.

I have heard of people going into a trip in a bad mood already and they say that it helps to get all the emotions out and to deal with the problem. If you are someone who believes there is no such thing as a bad trip then I only see positive things coming from it.

What I've learned this year about psychedelics is that the dosage really does not matter. What matters is what's inside of yourself.


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Re: That weird in-between [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #26989021 - 10/16/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Watch stand up comedy to level up . Like many substances .. things only amplify your state of mind going in ..

I agree


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Re: That weird in-between [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26989025 - 10/16/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

DJ Ed said:
M. I felt so low that I had no option but to trip. Learnt nothing from the trip but woke up feeling amazing and happy again; re-focussed.

This right here ^^^ For me I can use it as a happiness booster or to really learn something about myself or the world. There is no problem with doing it for a little happiness. Mushrooms want you to like them, they won't bite.


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