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Anonymous #1

I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism * 3
    #26982640 - 10/13/20 01:42 AM (1 month, 11 days ago)

  • White silence is violence. But also, white people should stop talking to amplify the voices of minorities.

  • White people move into a neighborhood and its gentrification. White people move out of a neighborhood and its white flight.

  • White people adopt black culture and its cultural appropriation. White people neglect to adopt black culture and its exclusionary.




The racial double-binds in woke culture ensure that if you are white, your bad. Very bad. Hot-topic woke books like "White Fragility" say as much; all whites are inherently racist and therefore immoral.

Intersectionality dichotomizes morality based on immutable characteristics like (you guessed it) race.

White = oppressor. Black = oppressed. Being an oppressor, or having the capacity to oppress is, invariably, a moral attribution. Intersectionality, which is now taught in mandatory "diversity and inclusion" seminars at various government and business jobs, teaches people that white is immoral. Being male is immoral. Being heterosexual is immoral. Because those immutable characteristics mean you have the ability to oppress, which is objectively immoral. Its a syllogism, an informal fallacy. Yet it is taught as orthodoxy.

Black Lives Matter is considered the "anti-racists", yet strangely, their organization has a sordid history of antisemitism and white hate. Nick Cannon, a high profile BLM member, went on a rant on his podcast about how white people are "more like animals" and "lack compassion." Yusra Koghali, a cofounder of BLM Canada, made numerous tweets claiming that white people are genetically inferior, calling them "recessive genetic defects." The textbook definition of a racial supremacy complex.



In woke culture, language is censored and controlled with an iron fist - that is, wrongspeak. You can be antisemitic if it alligns with BLM's #FreeIsrael agenda and its totally fine, its woke! You can use stereotypes and attribute a pejorative label or characteristic to an entire identity group (white people) and its totally fine, its woke!



But I am called a racist. Why? Because I believe in true equality. Everyone is equal, everyone has the same intrinsic moral value, and everyone should be held to the same standards and expectations of a sentient human being. I believe society must be COLOR BLIND.

When we see everything through the prism of race, we amplify tribalism and focus on the things that make us different, rather than our shared humanity. Martin Luther King gave his life to work towards a society that judged people based on their merits, their works, their personality, their beliefs. That is what the civil rights movement was all about - EQUALITY.

Woke California law makers are abolishing Civil Rights-era legislation that prohibits racial discrimination in hiring practices. That's right. Woke culture wants to get rid of safe-guards for discrimination. Why? They want affirmative action back, which discriminates against whites to compensate for *historical* discrimination against blacks.

That is the literal definition of systemic racism: a structural system that excludes or devalues individuals based on racial superficialities like skin color. But woke culture wants it.




Woke cancel culture has created an environment of political suppression and censorship. Dozens of professors have been fired for simply disagreeing with Black Lives Matter. A professional soccer player's WIFE made a tweet criticizing the riots and HE was fired. One teacher was fired for making a twitter post saying "President Trump is our president" - not even advocacy, just a statement of truth.

According to woke culture, if a white woman wears hoop earings, she is a racist and is culturally appropriating black culture. Could you imagine telling a black person they couldn't wear jeans because jeans are for white people only? That is prejudiced. Its also ignorance. It is not appropriation, it is called cultural diffusion. Cultures across the world adopt new technology, cuisine, apparel, and everything in between. It has happened since the dawn of time. Is the English Alphabet culturally appropriating from the Greeks? Its broken logic.

Wokeness is predicated on ignorance. It has become a quasi-religion that functions similar to Orthodox Catholicism in the Roman Empire. If you step out of line and disagree with the status quo, you are alienated, persecuted, or worse. Similarly, if you are guilty of wrongspeak and say that because your Christian, All Lives Matter... you'll be fired, ostracized, harassed online, or worse.




ALL LIVES MATTER... how is that controversial? Virtually every religion on earth has a variation of this adage. Christianity, Buddhism, Hindu, Islam, almost every culture understands that every human life has value and equal worth. It is confusing that woke people would take issue with something that has been common knowledge for millennia.

Woke culture needs to die. It is toxic. It is turning us against eachother, pushing us to focus on insignificant and trivial physiological variations. Skin color should NEVER be a factor in hiring someone for a job. Wokeness disagrees.


PLEASE TELL ME I'M NOT ALONE HERE! AM I GOING CRAZY, OR DO YOU SEE THE MADNESS TOO?


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Anonymous #2

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26982651 - 10/13/20 02:01 AM (1 month, 11 days ago)

Sounds like these things occupy a very large and unavoidable part of your world and leave you feeling quite oppressed.

Personally, none of these things exist in my world, and the first I'd heard of them was from you.

Like so many things in life and how they affect us, it depends on focus.


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Anonymous #3

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26982655 - 10/13/20 02:11 AM (1 month, 11 days ago)

You’re not crazy. Welcome to backwards land.


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Anonymous #4

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26983272 - 10/13/20 02:07 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Sounds like these things occupy a very large and unavoidable part of your world and leave you feeling quite oppressed.

Personally, none of these things exist in my world, and the first I'd heard of them was from you.

Like so many things in life and how they affect us, it depends on focus.



Do you not watch whats happening in the West and are you not on social media?  I agree with op insofar as I watch whats happening in the West and I keep on eye on the Twittersphere. 

I hope Trump wins the 2020 presidential nomination.  This is a huge election and if he loses, I suspect the United States will become even wackier than it already is.  Even with him winning, the States may be doomed, but he seems to be a central figure standing in the way to a lot of this loony identitarianism that is being pushed.  People hate him so much that even if he wins, they may revolt.  Trump supporters are being shot dead by nut jobs.  The Left endorses hatred and violence under the guise of justice.


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Anonymous #2

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26983326 - 10/13/20 02:47 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:
Do you not watch whats happening in the West and are you not on social media?



No I do not. I don't care to fill my head with shit that does not affect my direct experience with life. Know why? Cause then I might end up like OP; with a head full of nonsense, feeling oppressed and depressed, feeling like the world as I know it is ending, and that all the shit is stacked against me.

If ever there were a lesson and a reason to avoid that shit; it is the OP in this thread. Fact is, as a white, intelligent, middle-class male, I have it as good as it gets in this life. There's pretty much nothing I can't do, should I set my mind to it.

Feeding off mass/social media is to instill a rot and a growing cancer in ones mind. Why on fucking earth would I want to do that when my life is amazing as it is?
 
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Anonymous #4 said:
I hope Trump wins the 2020 presidential nomination.  This is a huge election and if he loses, I suspect the United States will become even wackier than it already is.  Even with him winning, the States may be doomed, but he seems to be a central figure standing in the way to a lot of this loony identitarianism that is being pushed.  People hate him so much that even if he wins, they may revolt.  Trump supporters are being shot dead by nut jobs.  The Left endorses hatred and violence under the guise of justice.



So you're a Qanon believer.

Jesus you lot are all fucking whack jobs. Anyone that divides people up between left and right is an outright fucking moron, IMO.


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Anonymous #5

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26983870 - 10/13/20 08:42 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
  • White silence is violence. But also, white people should stop talking to amplify the voices of minorities.

  • White people move into a neighborhood and its gentrification. White people move out of a neighborhood and its white flight.

  • White people adopt black culture and its cultural appropriation. White people neglect to adopt black culture and its exclusionary.




The racial double-binds in woke culture ensure that if you are white, your bad. Very bad. Hot-topic woke books like "White Fragility" say as much; all whites are inherently racist and therefore immoral.

Intersectionality dichotomizes morality based on immutable characteristics like (you guessed it) race.

White = oppressor. Black = oppressed. Being an oppressor, or having the capacity to oppress is, invariably, a moral attribution. Intersectionality, which is now taught in mandatory "diversity and inclusion" seminars at various government and business jobs, teaches people that white is immoral. Being male is immoral. Being heterosexual is immoral. Because those immutable characteristics mean you have the ability to oppress, which is objectively immoral. Its a syllogism, an informal fallacy. Yet it is taught as orthodoxy.

Black Lives Matter is considered the "anti-racists", yet strangely, their organization has a sordid history of antisemitism and white hate. Nick Cannon, a high profile BLM member, went on a rant on his podcast about how white people are "more like animals" and "lack compassion." Yusra Koghali, a cofounder of BLM Canada, made numerous tweets claiming that white people are genetically inferior, calling them "recessive genetic defects." The textbook definition of a racial supremacy complex.



In woke culture, language is censored and controlled with an iron fist - that is, wrongspeak. You can be antisemitic if it alligns with BLM's #FreeIsrael agenda and its totally fine, its woke! You can use stereotypes and attribute a pejorative label or characteristic to an entire identity group (white people) and its totally fine, its woke!



But I am called a racist. Why? Because I believe in true equality. Everyone is equal, everyone has the same intrinsic moral value, and everyone should be held to the same standards and expectations of a sentient human being. I believe society must be COLOR BLIND.

When we see everything through the prism of race, we amplify tribalism and focus on the things that make us different, rather than our shared humanity. Martin Luther King gave his life to work towards a society that judged people based on their merits, their works, their personality, their beliefs. That is what the civil rights movement was all about - EQUALITY.

Woke California law makers are abolishing Civil Rights-era legislation that prohibits racial discrimination in hiring practices. That's right. Woke culture wants to get rid of safe-guards for discrimination. Why? They want affirmative action back, which discriminates against whites to compensate for *historical* discrimination against blacks.

That is the literal definition of systemic racism: a structural system that excludes or devalues individuals based on racial superficialities like skin color. But woke culture wants it.




Woke cancel culture has created an environment of political suppression and censorship. Dozens of professors have been fired for simply disagreeing with Black Lives Matter. A professional soccer player's WIFE made a tweet criticizing the riots and HE was fired. One teacher was fired for making a twitter post saying "President Trump is our president" - not even advocacy, just a statement of truth.

According to woke culture, if a white woman wears hoop earings, she is a racist and is culturally appropriating black culture. Could you imagine telling a black person they couldn't wear jeans because jeans are for white people only? That is prejudiced. Its also ignorance. It is not appropriation, it is called cultural diffusion. Cultures across the world adopt new technology, cuisine, apparel, and everything in between. It has happened since the dawn of time. Is the English Alphabet culturally appropriating from the Greeks? Its broken logic.

Wokeness is predicated on ignorance. It has become a quasi-religion that functions similar to Orthodox Catholicism in the Roman Empire. If you step out of line and disagree with the status quo, you are alienated, persecuted, or worse. Similarly, if you are guilty of wrongspeak and say that because your Christian, All Lives Matter... you'll be fired, ostracized, harassed online, or worse.




ALL LIVES MATTER... how is that controversial? Virtually every religion on earth has a variation of this adage. Christianity, Buddhism, Hindu, Islam, almost every culture understands that every human life has value and equal worth. It is confusing that woke people would take issue with something that has been common knowledge for millennia.

Woke culture needs to die. It is toxic. It is turning us against eachother, pushing us to focus on insignificant and trivial physiological variations. Skin color should NEVER be a factor in hiring someone for a job. Wokeness disagrees.


PLEASE TELL ME I'M NOT ALONE HERE! AM I GOING CRAZY, OR DO YOU SEE THE MADNESS TOO?





Wrong, everyone is not equal. We are born with different genetics, parents and grow in different environments. As a result, everyone is different from each other. Some people are smarter, better looking, have educated and wealthy parents, live in different countries and have much better or worse childhoods.

It's a competitive world and most people do what they can to get ahead, sometimes getting ahead puts other people behind. At the end of the day, it's not pretty and it's not likely to end.

Just ignore the bullshit and get yours because nobody else is going to look out for your ass. It's about surviving and doing what you have to do. Nobody is going to help you, they want what you have and will take it if they can.  Play the game smart and you'll be fine, don't try to out think the game, just play it better than the rest of the gang.


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Anonymous #6

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #26983996 - 10/13/20 10:01 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
ALL LIVES MATTER... how is that controversial?





A woman says to her husband, "do you think I'm beautiful?"
He answers, "Yes, and I think many women are beautiful."

A co-worker says, "my mom just died"
You answer, "everyone's parents dies"

Anyone says, "black lives matter"
Someone else says, "all lives matter"

All these things are true, but they are also hurtful and inappropriate/insensitive to say


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Anonymous #7

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26984023 - 10/13/20 10:16 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Sounds like these things occupy a very large and unavoidable part of your world and leave you feeling quite oppressed.

Personally, none of these things exist in my world, and the first I'd heard of them was from you.

Like so many things in life and how they affect us, it depends on focus.



Ive heard these plenty of times. I completely agree with him. Many MANY contradictions.


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Anonymous #8

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #26984072 - 10/13/20 10:45 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

If I felt this way, I would simply stop being racist


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Anonymous #5

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #26984113 - 10/13/20 11:09 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
If I felt this way, I would simply stop being racist




It's really not simple because he's claiming regardless of what he does, he'll still be considered a racist in woke culture. Did you not read his OP? 

If you don't think you're racist, maybe it's time to look in the mirror and reflect on why you're denying this aspect of your character. :shrug:  If everybody doesn't think they're racist and woke culture is telling you different, it's time for self examination. Why are you immune to racial tribalism and the OP isn't.


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Anonymous #3

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26984196 - 10/13/20 11:56 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Doesn’t it suck to know that you’re completely sane and seeing these things happening, but when you say something you’re gaslighted as being the crazy racist person just reading into shit.

Trust what you know, soon enough they’ll choke.


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Anonymous #8

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #26984200 - 10/13/20 11:58 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Lmao


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Anonymous #2

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26984217 - 10/14/20 12:09 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
you’re gaslighted as being the crazy racist person just reading into shit.



Please explain where the gaslighting is happening here.


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Anonymous #3

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26984315 - 10/14/20 01:51 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

You.


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Anonymous #2

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26984328 - 10/14/20 02:02 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Saying that I chose not to pay attention to the things OP does and to not indulge in the kind of thinking that OP does is gaslighting?

OK then.


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Anonymous #3

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26984355 - 10/14/20 02:29 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

No.  I said you gaslighted the op.  Like you’re trying to do to me.


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Anonymous #8

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #26984547 - 10/14/20 08:10 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

I’m immune because I’m simply not racist. Racism is a learned behavior or attitude. “Prejudice” is an inherent trait that we all have, not racism. Woke culture has its place but it also should be taken with a grain of salt in some cases. For instance, woke culture really pushes back against “controversial” comedians, but highlighting our differences is a path to understanding, and comedians of the past, and some in the present, like Richard Pryor and Dave Chappelle, do that really well. Laughter is medicine. So I mostly ignore woke culture and just examine my actions through the scope of a good vs. bad person, not by the scope of extremism.


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Anonymous #8

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #8] * 1
    #26984551 - 10/14/20 08:17 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

I would also like to add that I think “gaslighting” is a stupid trend word right now. Most people don’t even understand what it means, they just use it because they heard some ultra woke bro or feminist use it when someone expressed an opinion they didn’t like. We’re all entitled to our opinions, even the bad ones unfortunately.


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Anonymous #3

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #26984631 - 10/14/20 09:52 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
I would also like to add that I think “gaslighting” is a stupid trend word right now. Most people don’t even understand what it means, they just use it because they heard some ultra woke bro or feminist use it when someone expressed an opinion they didn’t like. We’re all entitled to our opinions, even the bad ones unfortunately.




It’s a trend word because it’s happening all the time.  And if you happen to notice it and say something you’re immediately gaslighted.


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Anonymous #9

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26984683 - 10/14/20 10:22 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
I would also like to add that I think “gaslighting” is a stupid trend word right now. Most people don’t even understand what it means, they just use it because they heard some ultra woke bro or feminist use it when someone expressed an opinion they didn’t like. We’re all entitled to our opinions, even the bad ones unfortunately.




It’s a trend word because it’s happening all the time.  And if you happen to notice it and say something you’re immediately gaslighted.



:rofldrunk:


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Anonymous #2

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26984700 - 10/14/20 10:39 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
I would also like to add that I think “gaslighting” is a stupid trend word right now. Most people don’t even understand what it means, they just use it because they heard some ultra woke bro or feminist use it when someone expressed an opinion they didn’t like. We’re all entitled to our opinions, even the bad ones unfortunately.



It’s a trend word because it’s happening all the time.  And if you happen to notice it and say something you’re immediately gaslighted.



LOL. You're right Anon 8; this one definitely has no idea what the word means.

I didn't realize the word had gone full trend retard.


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Anonymous #5

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #8] * 1
    #26984931 - 10/14/20 01:24 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
I’m immune because I’m simply not racist. Racism is a learned behavior or attitude. “Prejudice” is an inherent trait that we all have, not racism. Woke culture has its place but it also should be taken with a grain of salt in some cases. For instance, woke culture really pushes back against “controversial” comedians, but highlighting our differences is a path to understanding, and comedians of the past, and some in the present, like Richard Pryor and Dave Chappelle, do that really well. Laughter is medicine. So I mostly ignore woke culture and just examine my actions through the scope of a good vs. bad person, not by the scope of extremism.




Oh, so you're the final judge of what you are, how very convenient. Maybe it's time to examine how others view your own behavior instead of just patting yourself on the back all the time. Trump also thinks very highly of himself and considers himself a great leader.

So it's ignore anything that reflects poorly on yourself and just examine yourself through your own bias of yourself. Talk about closed mindedness. :sad:


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Anonymous #8

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #26985553 - 10/14/20 06:57 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Lol I can assure you nobody else thinks I’m racist either. Sounds like either you’re just playing devil’s advocate here or you have some things you need to work out for yourself. I’m comfortable with who I am and I’m pretty confident I’m a decent person. You’re making all these assumptions and you know nothing about me. I have empathy and compassion and I care to a certain extent what people think, especially my loved ones. The last thing I think ANYBODY would say about me is closed-minded. I’m done with this thread now because it feels like you’re just grasping at straws for something to argue about, and that’s not my practice here. I’m here to learn about shroom cultivation. Sorry I got sucked in to such a drab topic.


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Anonymous #3

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26985653 - 10/14/20 07:35 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
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Anonymous #8 said:
I would also like to add that I think “gaslighting” is a stupid trend word right now. Most people don’t even understand what it means, they just use it because they heard some ultra woke bro or feminist use it when someone expressed an opinion they didn’t like. We’re all entitled to our opinions, even the bad ones unfortunately.



It’s a trend word because it’s happening all the time.  And if you happen to notice it and say something you’re immediately gaslighted.



LOL. You're right Anon 8; this one definitely has no idea what the word means.

I didn't realize the word had gone full trend retard.




You’re the one gaslighting, of course you’ll deny it, and call names to boot.


Edited by Anonymous (10/15/20 01:55 AM)


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Anonymous #9

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #3] * 1
    #26985808 - 10/14/20 08:58 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

we got it, anyone who disagrees is gaslighting you, you win :congrats:


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Anonymous #5

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #26985826 - 10/14/20 09:06 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

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Anonymous #8 said:
Lol I can assure you nobody else thinks I’m racist either. Sounds like either you’re just playing devil’s advocate here or you have some things you need to work out for yourself. I’m comfortable with who I am and I’m pretty confident I’m a decent person. You’re making all these assumptions and you know nothing about me. I have empathy and compassion and I care to a certain extent what people think, especially my loved ones. The last thing I think ANYBODY would say about me is closed-minded. I’m done with this thread now because it feels like you’re just grasping at straws for something to argue about, and that’s not my practice here. I’m here to learn about shroom cultivation. Sorry I got sucked in to such a drab topic.




Oh, the people around me that think just like me don't think I'm racist, how introspective of you.  Like seriously, you don't think everybody thinks they're compassionate, decent, open minded and feel empathy for others. Stop patting yourself on the back with confirmation bias and go for 5g in silent darkness and learn about yourself.


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Anonymous #3

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #26985902 - 10/14/20 09:40 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #9 said:
we got it, anyone who disagrees is gaslighting you, you win :congrats:



I certainly did not say that.


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Anonymous #6

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26985995 - 10/14/20 10:44 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Wow...the anon function sure seems to make everyone go on full retard mode


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Anonymous #3

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #26986003 - 10/14/20 10:53 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

The NPCs start to get nasty.


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Anonymous #9

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #26986097 - 10/14/20 11:52 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

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Anonymous #6 said:
Wow...the anon function sure seems to make everyone go on full retard mode



:guiltyascharged:


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Anonymous #2

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26986129 - 10/15/20 12:17 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
You’re the gaslighter, of course you’ll deny it, and call names to boot.



See I didn't call any names, which means that by definition, you are gaslighting me right now.

Prove me wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26986203 - 10/15/20 01:19 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

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Anonymous #2 said:
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Anonymous #3 said:
You’re the gaslighter, of course you’ll deny it, and call names to boot.



See I didn't call any names, which means that by definition, you are gaslighting me right now.

Prove me wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting




I believe it’s you who needs to prove me wrong.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26986222 - 10/15/20 01:36 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

You called me a gaslighter. I called you no names.

By calling me a gaslighter you are insinuating that I am fucking with peoples mental state, whereas you are doing so to me by accusing me of something I did not do.

I have not accused you of anything.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26986257 - 10/15/20 02:04 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

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Anonymous #2 said:
You called me a gaslighter.


I called you no names.

By calling me a gaslighter you are insinuating that I am fucking with peoples mental state, whereas you are doing so to me by accusing me of something I did not do.

I have not accused you of anything.




You’re doing all of the above. Im not accusing you of anything, it’s in all of your posts, name calling included.  It’s amusing you think you’re the victim now.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26986266 - 10/15/20 02:08 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

LOL a victim? Not never sonnyjim, I never been one of those.

I like playing with you though. You make me laugh.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26986309 - 10/15/20 02:57 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

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Anonymous #2 said:
LOL a victim? Not never sonnyjim, I never been one of those.

I like playing with you though. You make me laugh.



Glad you finally came out and admitted you’ve been gaslighting this whole time.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26986466 - 10/15/20 07:22 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

:lol:
please please be trolling


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26986785 - 10/15/20 12:28 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

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Anonymous #2 said:
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Anonymous #4 said:
Do you not watch whats happening in the West and are you not on social media?



No I do not. I don't care to fill my head with shit that does not affect my direct experience with life. Know why? Cause then I might end up like OP; with a head full of nonsense, feeling oppressed and depressed, feeling like the world as I know it is ending, and that all the shit is stacked against me.

If ever there were a lesson and a reason to avoid that shit; it is the OP in this thread. Fact is, as a white, intelligent, middle-class male, I have it as good as it gets in this life. There's pretty much nothing I can't do, should I set my mind to it.

Feeding off mass/social media is to instill a rot and a growing cancer in ones mind. Why on fucking earth would I want to do that when my life is amazing as it is?
 
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Anonymous #4 said:
I hope Trump wins the 2020 presidential nomination.  This is a huge election and if he loses, I suspect the United States will become even wackier than it already is.  Even with him winning, the States may be doomed, but he seems to be a central figure standing in the way to a lot of this loony identitarianism that is being pushed.  People hate him so much that even if he wins, they may revolt.  Trump supporters are being shot dead by nut jobs.  The Left endorses hatred and violence under the guise of justice.



So you're a Qanon believer.

Jesus you lot are all fucking whack jobs. Anyone that divides people up between left and right is an outright fucking moron, IMO.



You've admitted that you don't have a clue as to what's happening and now you're calling me a qanon believer lol.  You don't know whats going on, stick to your  little world and stop with the ignorant name calling.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #4] * 1
    #26989784 - 10/17/20 11:18 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Well this thread proved the OP 1000% correct. :lol:


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #26989971 - 10/17/20 01:43 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

So I don't really agree with the OP, but that is okay, because if we lived in a world where we all agree then it would be like that future world from scify movie I cannot place at the moment. However, I wanted to validate the OPs feelings. It is okay to feel sick of certain cultures that we humans make worse on a daily basis. I don't want to argue or anything like that, or debate about it. I just want you to know that your feelings are valid. I for one find myself very weary of the "oh you fell down, get back up and forget about it culture" and I know that it is okay for me to feel that way. It is how one acts on feelings that should draw scrutiny.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26990725 - 10/17/20 11:31 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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Anonymous #4 said:
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Anonymous #2 said:
Sounds like these things occupy a very large and unavoidable part of your world and leave you feeling quite oppressed.

Personally, none of these things exist in my world, and the first I'd heard of them was from you.

Like so many things in life and how they affect us, it depends on focus.



Do you not watch whats happening in the West and are you not on social media?  I agree with op insofar as I watch whats happening in the West and I keep on eye on the Twittersphere. 

I hope Trump wins the 2020 presidential nomination.  This is a huge election and if he loses, I suspect the United States will become even wackier than it already is.  Even with him winning, the States may be doomed, but he seems to be a central figure standing in the way to a lot of this loony identitarianism that is being pushed.  People hate him so much that even if he wins, they may revolt.  Trump supporters are being shot dead by nut jobs.  The Left endorses hatred and violence under the guise of justice.



i hope he wins too so people get pissed and overthrow him :shrug:


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #26991009 - 10/18/20 07:19 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

It has truly become an election of good vs evil. Not saying Trump is good because he does have his faults. But I know for certain a lot of people's perception of him is askew because of the lying press that has been busted for the past four years pushing known lies to the American people to try and discredit him. And I know a good percentage of people only get their news of him from these sources that only use buzz words that tickles the ears but have meaning that vary based on the speaker and hearer that are designed to lead a person to one conclusion while obscuring the real meaning the speaker is saying. So they are completely clueless as to what Trump said or did and they just parrot the DNC talking points without actually knowing what they are saying :rolleyes:. oh did I say :rolleyes:
Which is why I stopped listening to what the news say about him and instead listen to the FULL context and complete speech he made on the subject.

And yea nobody will be able to overthrow Trump when he wins re-election. That would cause a civil war and there are more of his supporters with guns and such than all those anti-gun people. Bringing a knife to a gun fight is a losing proposition. People are sick of the RIOTs and racist BLM, NBA got smacked down hard in ratings and won't be doing it next year. Even the hardcore Seattle is changing its tune now that they see what they supported coming to life in their city. The lightbulb is starting to turn on and they are getting a hardcore DUH moment.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #26991640 - 10/18/20 05:24 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

I agree with the OP 100%. I live in Athens GA, the home of a bunch of lame 80’s bands. Those were the good old days before I got here. Now Athens is probably the woke capital of the southeast US. My neighborhood is filled with white millennial soccer moms that have BLM signs in their yards, and the names of local candidates that want to defund the police. Yeah, let’s get rid of the police in a town where parents send 30,000+ college kids to get an education and grow up. Let’s unleash that mob onto our town, what could go wrong? Our local government has Socialists, BLM activists, and progressives. My neighborhood has a FB page, I see my neighbors posting about distributing their BLM and political signs, and how proud of themselves they are. I usually don’t care about how someone votes or their beliefs, but it’s almost like we are trying to become the Portland of the South. I’m considering selling my house and moving before it all goes to shit here. It’s a toss up, do I want to deal with thousands of idealistic college kids, a woke local government with a woke education system or do I want to deal with hillbillies with meth labs in the hills of North Georgia or North Carolina? I’m leaning towards the hillbillies.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26991838 - 10/18/20 08:36 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:
Do you not watch whats happening in the West and are you not on social media?



No I do not. I don't care to fill my head with shit that does not affect my direct experience with life. Know why? Cause then I might end up like OP; with a head full of nonsense, feeling oppressed and depressed, feeling like the world as I know it is ending, and that all the shit is stacked against me.

If ever there were a lesson and a reason to avoid that shit; it is the OP in this thread. Fact is, as a white, intelligent, middle-class male, I have it as good as it gets in this life. There's pretty much nothing I can't do, should I set my mind to it.

Feeding off mass/social media is to instill a rot and a growing cancer in ones mind. Why on fucking earth would I want to do that when my life is amazing as it is?
 
Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:
I hope Trump wins the 2020 presidential nomination.  This is a huge election and if he loses, I suspect the United States will become even wackier than it already is.  Even with him winning, the States may be doomed, but he seems to be a central figure standing in the way to a lot of this loony identitarianism that is being pushed.  People hate him so much that even if he wins, they may revolt.  Trump supporters are being shot dead by nut jobs.  The Left endorses hatred and violence under the guise of justice.



So you're a Qanon believer.

Jesus you lot are all fucking whack jobs. Anyone that divides people up between left and right is an outright fucking moron, IMO.



This is the problem. Instead of just disagreeing with them, you instantly jump to personal insults and attacks. You instantly label them as a "qanon believer" as a rather crude strawman since they didn't actually say anything about the conspiracy.

You and I disagree. You know what that makes you? My brother/sister. A human. Just a person I disagree with. I'm not going to call you a X or Y insult simply because we inhabit differing (perhaps even opposing) ideological dimensions.

The problem here is alienating people you disagree with. Making them the other. That is the literal definition of tribalism. I'm guilty of this too, I've done it in the past numerous times. But I just think we need to be better than this. Instead of seeking to make fake strawman arguments to "defeat" someone in discourse, we should actually try and understand differing opinions and FIND COMMON GROUND.

Between you and I, and based on your aversion to Qanon, we have common ground in that we both dislike radicalism or unreasonable, illogical rhetoric. We are more alike than we are different. There is no need to call people morons or imbeciles, this is supposed to be a community.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #26991841 - 10/18/20 08:40 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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Anonymous #8 said:
I’m immune because I’m simply not racist. Racism is a learned behavior or attitude. “Prejudice” is an inherent trait that we all have, not racism. Woke culture has its place but it also should be taken with a grain of salt in some cases. For instance, woke culture really pushes back against “controversial” comedians, but highlighting our differences is a path to understanding, and comedians of the past, and some in the present, like Richard Pryor and Dave Chappelle, do that really well. Laughter is medicine. So I mostly ignore woke culture and just examine my actions through the scope of a good vs. bad person, not by the scope of extremism.



Are you white? Then your racist. At least, that is what woke culture will tell you. White Fragility (which is now being taught in public school curriculum) teaches that all whites are racist via implicit bias - a paradigm that is not predicated on empirical evidence or the scientific method, its just a theory.

Your not really racist, nor am I. But the problem is Michelle Obama going on television telling you and I we need to stop being bigots because we disapprove of Black Lives Matter burning the country down and throwing incendiary explosive devices at federal agents.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26991854 - 10/18/20 08:48 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

there are good conspiracy theories that make you take a step back and evaluate the things around you, and then there's dogshit like the qanon theory. all it really does is breed outrage into its believers which inevitably turns some people into extremists. the fbi is even considering labeling them as domestic terrorists, they're that bad. i see them as the same as antifa. maybe they dont riot as much, but i can see them rioting in the future when the country destabilizes a little more. its just garbage is all it is.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #26991888 - 10/18/20 09:11 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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Anonymous #12 said:
there are good conspiracy theories that make you take a step back and evaluate the things around you, and then there's dogshit like the qanon theory. all it really does is breed outrage into its believers which inevitably turns some people into extremists. the fbi is even considering labeling them as domestic terrorists, they're that bad. i see them as the same as antifa. maybe they dont riot as much, but i can see them rioting in the future when the country destabilizes a little more. its just garbage is all it is.



I love the Qanon conspiracy theory. I don't believe it, as I tend to only accommodate new knowledge that is empirically proven, and conspiracies by nature are improvable.

Conspiracy theories are fun, they let you think you possess secret, hidden knowledge that most people are unaware of. Its a fundamental tenet of free speech; the ability to hold any position or opinion regardless of how crazy others might see it. I disagree with a lot of conspiracy theorists, but I love hearing their passion, and learning the hows and whys.

There are tribes in Africa that believe young boys must consume semen to become men. So the aldermen get blowjobs from the children, and it has been practiced for centuries. There is also a South American tribe that believes in ritual torture; women must put their heads into clay ovens until their skin is charred black, children go into Temples to have their teeth ripped out and metal utensils jammed into their nerves - all as part of a ritual cleansing that associates physical torture with purifying evil.

Are those tribes crazy? Immoral? Criminal? Ask any anthropologist and they will tell you not to judge them. Its called ethnocentrism: judging a culture (or subculture) for their beliefs through the prism of ones own culture. If you were raised in a culture where everyone who reached the age of 8 went to the Temple to get their teeth ripped out, it would be totally normal to you. The idea of Westerners not undergoing ritual torture to protect themselves from demons would be insane, you'd see them as evil or impure.

Ethnocentrism happens on a smaller scale too. Democrats saying conservatives are backwards. Conservatives saying leftists are insane. The lesson here is that we should not apply our own belief systems, opinions, mores, and worldview onto others. That is also the core principle of individualism.

We are free to believe what we wish. You should question another persons beliefs with REAL arguments that seek understanding. But reverting to emotional reasoning and jumping straight into personal attacks is the most inept and mundane form of discourse - nobody learns anything and everyone gets upset.

We learn more about others and ourselves by questioning, being curious, and engaging in good-faith discussion with people who are different. You won't learn anything by condemning African tribes with dubious practices. But you will learn much about life if you were to be curious; why do they practice those strange coming-of-age rituals? How did it originate? How do they feel about conducting it?

Even I struggle to make good-faith arguments. My original posting of this thread offered no pros to the woke ideology, only my own interpretation of its detriments. Being impartial and unbiased is a constant struggle, but a fight worth fighting.

  • why do woke people think all white people are racist?

  • Do they have empirical evidence to back up that claim?

  • Why do they think censorship or restriction of free speech is good/needed?

  • Why do they support BLM despite violent riots, antisemitism, and anti-white racism?


Any self-identified "woke" people reading this... I'd appreciate some answers, to try and understand this stuff rather than just condemn it.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26998572 - 10/22/20 09:35 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

I hate those SJW c***s, your dad not being around has nothing to do with my skin color, but I am "privaliged," how is being normal privilege?

They are also WORSE than nazis when it comes to religion, they are atheist that hate culture and want everyone in communist grey.

They will also use any means to make you look bad, whether it's instigating, gang stalking, smearing your dead relatives, spying on you, defaming you to strangers. They will stab you in the back then when you turn around pretend to be your friend, all they care about is that they got theirs and if you didnt you're in the way.
Fuck those asswipes!
They are the gate keepers to working class change and they throw it all away cannabalizing the worker, the artist, the entertainer, the lover, theyre like demons.
I got no love for those uppity cunts.
When you have trouble finding a entry level job that pays well, a place to stay, people to talk to blame these people.


Edited by Anonymous (10/24/20 11:38 PM)


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #26998959 - 10/23/20 02:43 AM (1 month, 23 hours ago)

did any of this ever happen to you or did you read this from some outrage article?


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #4] * 2
    #26999094 - 10/23/20 06:29 AM (1 month, 19 hours ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Sounds like these things occupy a very large and unavoidable part of your world and leave you feeling quite oppressed.

Personally, none of these things exist in my world, and the first I'd heard of them was from you.

Like so many things in life and how they affect us, it depends on focus.



Do you not watch whats happening in the West and are you not on social media?  I agree with op insofar as I watch whats happening in the West and I keep on eye on the Twittersphere. 

I hope Trump wins the 2020 presidential nomination.  This is a huge election and if he loses, I suspect the United States will become even wackier than it already is.  Even with him winning, the States may be doomed, but he seems to be a central figure standing in the way to a lot of this loony identitarianism that is being pushed.  People hate him so much that even if he wins, they may revolt.  Trump supporters are being shot dead by nut jobs.  The Left endorses hatred and violence under the guise of justice.




15% of all people in the US are politically active, that encompasses both the right and the left, so Twitter is more like a megaphone for a small group of people.

If you don't use social media, you're not missing out on anything except vitriol and hate from random people

Also, you could just not get invested in all of this. Politics is theater. Trump is not some savior one guy versus everyone....the news media always cheerleads both sides, just depends what network is doing what. When a republican gets in it feels like a victory for people everywhere, because they're "outspoken" on the media, since most media has a left bias. However, what Republican politicians *will* do, is sell you down the river to bail out their Wall st. bros, Reps and Dems fundraise for each other, they have openly admitted to this, and justices throw millions of people off voter rolls every year unbeknowst to the voters themselves.

So, to borrow a line from George Carlin...I'll be doing essentially the same thing you're doing, except on election day, I'm going to have something to show for it.

Seriously it took me three and a half election cycles to realize its all bullshit. I feel like no one remembers anything beyond 4 years now. Cable television and the "news" in general is not news, it rots your brain. It is quite literally just a few news stories being repeated dozens of times by dozens of "reporters", playing telephone, on a television. Interesting....but...none of it surprises me anymore.

I mean, vote for whomever you want, but I don't get fooled. I just have one question--

Why would you vote for anyone? They're all complicit in screwing over the economy and they gave $5T to Wall Street so they could recoup their lost monies. Americans got $1200 and told to pound sand. Now we're going to vote for people before they do anything for us? They're all stonewalling, and you're going to give your *only* power over to someone...before they even do anything? Why?


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #26999636 - 10/23/20 02:26 PM (1 month, 11 hours ago)

Looking at the degenerates supporting Trump, it's easy to see how the nazis got where they did. Expecting them to learn from history is like trying to teach Latin to a chimp; they can't even grasp basic CURRENT FACTS and have zero critical thinking skills...they're basically the social equivalent of stupid livestock ripe for grifting. Republicans may be evil, but they've done a great job enslaving the minds of their base of subhumans.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #26999645 - 10/23/20 02:31 PM (1 month, 11 hours ago)

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Anonymous #16 said:
Looking at the degenerates supporting Trump, it's easy to see how the nazis got where they did. Expecting them to learn from history is like trying to teach Latin to a chimp; they can't even grasp basic CURRENT FACTS and have zero critical thinking skills...they're basically the social equivalent of stupid livestock ripe for grifting. Republicans may be evil, but they've done a great job enslaving the minds of their base of subhumans.


The national socialists got where they did because everybody hated ANTIFA.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #26999815 - 10/23/20 04:10 PM (1 month, 10 hours ago)

“Subhumans “ huh? :thatsinteresting:


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #26999820 - 10/23/20 04:14 PM (1 month, 10 hours ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #16 said:
Looking at the degenerates supporting Trump, it's easy to see how the nazis got where they did. Expecting them to learn from history is like trying to teach Latin to a chimp; they can't even grasp basic CURRENT FACTS and have zero critical thinking skills...they're basically the social equivalent of stupid livestock ripe for grifting. Republicans may be evil, but they've done a great job enslaving the minds of their base of subhumans.




Trump and Nazi supporters were both oppressed groups of people that were looking for hope to make serious change in their lives. You can't create support out of nothing, so there must be some sort of catalyst. Trump just took advantage of that frustration to gain power for himself. Trump never made the change that he promised. Hitler on the other hand did follow through on his rhetoric for his supporters.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #27000418 - 10/23/20 10:29 PM (1 month, 3 hours ago)

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Anonymous #12 said:
did any of this ever happen to you or did you read this from some outrage article?




The biggest rats, black ballers, extortionists I met were those loud mouth cunts.
Im jus talking bout gang stalker assholes, not the people on tv but in sure theyre jus as fake


Edited by Anonymous (10/24/20 11:41 PM)


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #27000453 - 10/23/20 10:47 PM (1 month, 3 hours ago)

Biden, the ex head of the DEA is going to be president, what does that tell you?
This woke shit is about removing the idea off the working class from the struggle and replacing it with micro aggressions, cultural appropriation and objectifying people.
How is any of that shit relevant ever? No unions but pills and redtape out the ass.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #27000460 - 10/23/20 10:49 PM (1 month, 3 hours ago)

See what these woke people say about the patriot act? Gitmo and wiretaps for everyone, see how woke that sounds?
We lost every war in the last 40 years, these sjws dont give a shit


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #27005159 - 10/26/20 08:24 PM (28 days, 5 hours ago)

You are NOT crazy. That post was beautifully written and it expresses how I feel in my heart about the whole situation. It's all very sad, and being a "Privileged Young White Man" who is sometimes called a racist, bigot and all sorts of horrible things based upon my color and beliefs.

I've been spit on for simply telling someone I was a Christian (they asked) why??? Because of their ignorance... It's hard to hold back in situations like that but I walked away.

Someone swung at me in downtown Seattle once for saying I support Trump, nothing else was said or discussed. Just that statement alone sent this person into a absolute frenzy (like primal turning into a animal type shit) It was so bizarre to witness something like that and be hurled hurtful words for simply stating my view.

All of this shit needs to end, and all the people who started and are at the top pulling the strings of these people go to prison. All of this shit is tearing our country apart and Politics and Science are the God people serve today.

Time to get real "woke" I guess. You're on the right path and I love your mind.

best wishes to you OP


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #27005297 - 10/26/20 10:09 PM (28 days, 4 hours ago)

Does that not make you feel like a victim though?

A member of this community said this once, and it really made me realize I would never be (and have never been) a victim:

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[iKool Kat said:
As I rejected the idea that I, a fully grown adult male of the most ferocious predatory species on this planet, could ever be a victim of anything or anybody, I haven't felt oppressed since I was a pubescent teenager. That was at least 60 years ago. Only a fool bitches and moans about something that they cannot change, and reality is one of those things. It may not be pretty, or what you want, but it's what you got and it's reality. End of story.




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Anonymous #5

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #27005329 - 10/26/20 10:27 PM (28 days, 3 hours ago)

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Does that not make you feel like a victim though?

A member of this community said this once, and it really made me realize I would never be (and have never been) a victim:

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[iKool Kat said:
As I rejected the idea that I, a fully grown adult male of the most ferocious predatory species on this planet, could ever be a victim of anything or anybody, I haven't felt oppressed since I was a pubescent teenager. That was at least 60 years ago. Only a fool bitches and moans about something that they cannot change, and reality is one of those things. It may not be pretty, or what you want, but it's what you got and it's reality. End of story.







That's your ego at work here, of course you can be a victim in life. Does that mean you need to embrace victimization every time something unfortunate happens to you? No, but at the same time you shouldn't attempt to deny the obvious if it ever occurs in your life.

Your ego is trying to protect you from the fact that others have major impact on your life. Your ego needs to let go and just accept that reality. Just accept the fact that others can victimize you and there's nothing you can do about it.


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Anonymous #1

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #27005678 - 10/27/20 05:50 AM (27 days, 20 hours ago)

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Looking at the degenerates supporting Trump, it's easy to see how the nazis got where they did. Expecting them to learn from history is like trying to teach Latin to a chimp; they can't even grasp basic CURRENT FACTS and have zero critical thinking skills...they're basically the social equivalent of stupid livestock ripe for grifting. Republicans may be evil, but they've done a great job enslaving the minds of their base of subhumans.



What degenerates supporting trump? Links?

People always pretend Trump supporters are fanatics; but they aren't the ones burning down police precincts, they aren't shooting cops, they aren't looting, they aren't destroying historic art, they aren't attacking people based on political affiliation. During a Trump rally, leftists attacked a 7 year old boy. Another highschool kid was recently attacked for wearing a MAGA hat, Trump sent him another with his signature.

Political violence is coming from the left-wing sphere of politics. The last noteworthy ultra right-wing fanatics were the Charlottesville tiki torch protestors, which ironically was less violent than the "Summer of Love" Seatlle CHOP "peaceful" protest.

When was the last video of a Trump supporter attacking someone for being a Biden supporter? When was the last news story about Trump supporters removing or defacing Biden signs? There are some, no doubt, but 99% of it comes from the left. I see videos of MAGA hat-wearing innocent people get smacked in the back of the head with a brick, attacked by mobs, being brandished with a weapon, assaulted, etc.

Left-wing politics is an important viewpoint in the US political landscape. We need a strong unified, rational Democratic party - not splinters of radical groups like Socialists, Antifa and BLM who literally want to destroy society and hate each other, just not as much as their unity of hate against Trump. Kamala harris was one of the most oppressive CA prosecutors, waged the war against drugs with impunity, and the Democrat party chooses her amid a police violence uprising. Their candidate Biden has a sordid history of massive scandals and cognitive problems. They are the two worst candidates for a Dem election ever.

Trump is reasonable, the media characterizes him as some moustache-twirling villian. Orange man bad! But in reality, orange man isn't that bad. No new wars, stronger trade agreements, Hispanic-prosperity initiative, less deportations than Obama, better economy, no more drone strikes shooting missiles into Syrian weddings, and he tried to get us out of the Middle Eastern wars. Ironically, the Democrats had been trying to stop the ME wars for a decade but right when Trump wants to do it, suddenly they are pro-war imperialists.

Trump has done a lot of good. He says a lot of stupid shit. He's a filthy rich billionaire, he doesn't care what you think. Hes aloof, arrogant, often rude, but damn if he doesn't get **** done. It took all this time to finally designate the KKK a terrorist organization. How did this not happen before Trump?

Biden is a puppet - they've already slipped and said "the Harris administration" numerous times. Everyone is basically voting for Harris, who is terrible on so many policy positions. Government watchdog sites list Kamala as the most far-left progressive politician in US government - higher than Sanders. Right now we need moderacy, not extremism. Anti 2a, anti-drug, pro-forced labor in prisoners, carrying water for Catholic child molestors because the church donated max sums to her political campaign... the list goes on!


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27005936 - 10/27/20 11:26 AM (27 days, 14 hours ago)

i agree with some of what you say there. but i've read some disturbing shit from the right as well. the comments section of a youtube video by fox news always has somebody talking about civil war and hanging "traitorous" democrats. the right is pretty fucked up too. i believe that because the right is in power, we don't see as much violence from the right. give it some time. there are thugs on both sides.

also, imagine simping for any us politician :burke:


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #27006795 - 10/27/20 07:35 PM (27 days, 6 hours ago)

I agree that the polarization has ramped up to extreme levels. Conservatives think leftists are insane and evil and are destroying the world. Progressives think so of conservatives. There is a ton of vile, toxic political discourse being spewn on both sides. American politics has become bitter, jaded, and tenuous.

The distinction is that the real damage, via riots, burning buildings, attacking cops, murders, tends to come from far-left ideologies. Far-right extremists are just as dangerous, but for whatever reason they aren't doing anything right now, or even in the last few years.

The ultra-left radicalism has caused hundreds of millions of dollars in damage. Politicians egg it on and say looting is "reparations", Congresswoman Ilhan said we need to "dismantle" the country. This revolutionary dogma is a threat. We need REFORM, not revolution. Now we have far-left activists who riot EVERY TIME a black man is killed by cops.

Incidentally, white people getting killed by cops isn't big enough to even hit the news. The issue is, people riot and destroy when they have almost no information. They don't know anything about the killing. One recent riot was for cops who killed a colored man who had an assault rifle and ambushed the cops. They defended themselves in an obviously clean kill, but ignorant people riot for it because they already have a narrative formed: cops are racist pigs.

And we need left and right to unite. Instead of people hating and attacking each other, we should be listening and learning from each other. You always learn more by hearing ideas you don't agree with - they force you to further develop the ideas you DO believe in. That is the beauty of civil discourse. Translating thoughts into symbolic language requires you to really understand the thought, because translating it into words for other to understand requires higher orders of cognition than simply thinking to oneself.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27006965 - 10/27/20 08:59 PM (27 days, 5 hours ago)

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Now we have far-left activists who riot EVERY TIME a black man is killed by cops.






They're rioting in Philly now because the cops had the nerve to protect themselves from a man who was coming at them with a knife.

I think we're at a point now where a black man could start mowing down police officers like the incident in Dallas a few years ago and if the cops shot and killed him they'd still riot and say it was unjust.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #27006973 - 10/27/20 09:05 PM (27 days, 5 hours ago)

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Now we have far-left activists who riot EVERY TIME a black man is killed by cops.






They're rioting in Philly now because the cops had the nerve to protect themselves from a man who was coming at them with a knife.

I think we're at a point now where a black man could start mowing down police officers like the incident in Dallas a few years ago and if the cops shot and killed him they'd still riot and say it was unjust.




You’re probably right.  We’re probably going to find out too.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #27006988 - 10/27/20 09:13 PM (27 days, 5 hours ago)

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And we need left and right to unite. Instead of people hating and attacking each other, we should be listening and learning from each other. You always learn more by hearing ideas you don't agree with - they force you to further develop the ideas you DO believe in. That is the beauty of civil discourse. Translating thoughts into symbolic language requires you to really understand the thought, because translating it into words for other to understand requires higher orders of cognition than simply thinking to oneself.




That would be amazing and if it happened we could actually turn this country into something beautiful, if both sides could treat one another with civility, have real meaningful discussion and meet somewhere near the middle. And then grow from there. Be one. Man the sky would be the limit.

But alas...that's just a dream I'm afraid. Pure fantasy. Both sides are so dug in and have so much pure hatred for one another that I'm really worried that our trajectory is to just keep going backwards until it's too late. These two sides are to the point now where they're actually genuinely wishing death on one another. And like a disease it has infiltrated...well everywhere.

The workplace. Inside homes. On the street outside. And everywhere on the internet. You can't escape it. You could go to a sweater knitting forum and find it. It's rampant here at the shroomery and it's to the point where I never want to come back here again, because every time I poke my head in here to escape daily life, guess what, it's more hateful political rhetoric everywhere I look. This place isn't fun anymore. But then again I guess that just mirrors this entire country right now.


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