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Anonymous #1

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #27005678 - 10/27/20 04:50 AM (28 days, 19 hours ago)

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Looking at the degenerates supporting Trump, it's easy to see how the nazis got where they did. Expecting them to learn from history is like trying to teach Latin to a chimp; they can't even grasp basic CURRENT FACTS and have zero critical thinking skills...they're basically the social equivalent of stupid livestock ripe for grifting. Republicans may be evil, but they've done a great job enslaving the minds of their base of subhumans.



What degenerates supporting trump? Links?

People always pretend Trump supporters are fanatics; but they aren't the ones burning down police precincts, they aren't shooting cops, they aren't looting, they aren't destroying historic art, they aren't attacking people based on political affiliation. During a Trump rally, leftists attacked a 7 year old boy. Another highschool kid was recently attacked for wearing a MAGA hat, Trump sent him another with his signature.

Political violence is coming from the left-wing sphere of politics. The last noteworthy ultra right-wing fanatics were the Charlottesville tiki torch protestors, which ironically was less violent than the "Summer of Love" Seatlle CHOP "peaceful" protest.

When was the last video of a Trump supporter attacking someone for being a Biden supporter? When was the last news story about Trump supporters removing or defacing Biden signs? There are some, no doubt, but 99% of it comes from the left. I see videos of MAGA hat-wearing innocent people get smacked in the back of the head with a brick, attacked by mobs, being brandished with a weapon, assaulted, etc.

Left-wing politics is an important viewpoint in the US political landscape. We need a strong unified, rational Democratic party - not splinters of radical groups like Socialists, Antifa and BLM who literally want to destroy society and hate each other, just not as much as their unity of hate against Trump. Kamala harris was one of the most oppressive CA prosecutors, waged the war against drugs with impunity, and the Democrat party chooses her amid a police violence uprising. Their candidate Biden has a sordid history of massive scandals and cognitive problems. They are the two worst candidates for a Dem election ever.

Trump is reasonable, the media characterizes him as some moustache-twirling villian. Orange man bad! But in reality, orange man isn't that bad. No new wars, stronger trade agreements, Hispanic-prosperity initiative, less deportations than Obama, better economy, no more drone strikes shooting missiles into Syrian weddings, and he tried to get us out of the Middle Eastern wars. Ironically, the Democrats had been trying to stop the ME wars for a decade but right when Trump wants to do it, suddenly they are pro-war imperialists.

Trump has done a lot of good. He says a lot of stupid shit. He's a filthy rich billionaire, he doesn't care what you think. Hes aloof, arrogant, often rude, but damn if he doesn't get **** done. It took all this time to finally designate the KKK a terrorist organization. How did this not happen before Trump?

Biden is a puppet - they've already slipped and said "the Harris administration" numerous times. Everyone is basically voting for Harris, who is terrible on so many policy positions. Government watchdog sites list Kamala as the most far-left progressive politician in US government - higher than Sanders. Right now we need moderacy, not extremism. Anti 2a, anti-drug, pro-forced labor in prisoners, carrying water for Catholic child molestors because the church donated max sums to her political campaign... the list goes on!


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27005936 - 10/27/20 10:26 AM (28 days, 13 hours ago)

i agree with some of what you say there. but i've read some disturbing shit from the right as well. the comments section of a youtube video by fox news always has somebody talking about civil war and hanging "traitorous" democrats. the right is pretty fucked up too. i believe that because the right is in power, we don't see as much violence from the right. give it some time. there are thugs on both sides.

also, imagine simping for any us politician :burke:


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #27006795 - 10/27/20 06:35 PM (28 days, 5 hours ago)

I agree that the polarization has ramped up to extreme levels. Conservatives think leftists are insane and evil and are destroying the world. Progressives think so of conservatives. There is a ton of vile, toxic political discourse being spewn on both sides. American politics has become bitter, jaded, and tenuous.

The distinction is that the real damage, via riots, burning buildings, attacking cops, murders, tends to come from far-left ideologies. Far-right extremists are just as dangerous, but for whatever reason they aren't doing anything right now, or even in the last few years.

The ultra-left radicalism has caused hundreds of millions of dollars in damage. Politicians egg it on and say looting is "reparations", Congresswoman Ilhan said we need to "dismantle" the country. This revolutionary dogma is a threat. We need REFORM, not revolution. Now we have far-left activists who riot EVERY TIME a black man is killed by cops.

Incidentally, white people getting killed by cops isn't big enough to even hit the news. The issue is, people riot and destroy when they have almost no information. They don't know anything about the killing. One recent riot was for cops who killed a colored man who had an assault rifle and ambushed the cops. They defended themselves in an obviously clean kill, but ignorant people riot for it because they already have a narrative formed: cops are racist pigs.

And we need left and right to unite. Instead of people hating and attacking each other, we should be listening and learning from each other. You always learn more by hearing ideas you don't agree with - they force you to further develop the ideas you DO believe in. That is the beauty of civil discourse. Translating thoughts into symbolic language requires you to really understand the thought, because translating it into words for other to understand requires higher orders of cognition than simply thinking to oneself.


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Anonymous #19

Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27006965 - 10/27/20 07:59 PM (28 days, 3 hours ago)

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Now we have far-left activists who riot EVERY TIME a black man is killed by cops.






They're rioting in Philly now because the cops had the nerve to protect themselves from a man who was coming at them with a knife.

I think we're at a point now where a black man could start mowing down police officers like the incident in Dallas a few years ago and if the cops shot and killed him they'd still riot and say it was unjust.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #27006973 - 10/27/20 08:05 PM (28 days, 3 hours ago)

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Anonymous #19 said:
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Anonymous #1 said:
Now we have far-left activists who riot EVERY TIME a black man is killed by cops.






They're rioting in Philly now because the cops had the nerve to protect themselves from a man who was coming at them with a knife.

I think we're at a point now where a black man could start mowing down police officers like the incident in Dallas a few years ago and if the cops shot and killed him they'd still riot and say it was unjust.




You’re probably right.  We’re probably going to find out too.


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Re: I'm sick of woke culture, sick of being called a racist, and sick of racial tribalism [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #27006988 - 10/27/20 08:13 PM (28 days, 3 hours ago)

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And we need left and right to unite. Instead of people hating and attacking each other, we should be listening and learning from each other. You always learn more by hearing ideas you don't agree with - they force you to further develop the ideas you DO believe in. That is the beauty of civil discourse. Translating thoughts into symbolic language requires you to really understand the thought, because translating it into words for other to understand requires higher orders of cognition than simply thinking to oneself.




That would be amazing and if it happened we could actually turn this country into something beautiful, if both sides could treat one another with civility, have real meaningful discussion and meet somewhere near the middle. And then grow from there. Be one. Man the sky would be the limit.

But alas...that's just a dream I'm afraid. Pure fantasy. Both sides are so dug in and have so much pure hatred for one another that I'm really worried that our trajectory is to just keep going backwards until it's too late. These two sides are to the point now where they're actually genuinely wishing death on one another. And like a disease it has infiltrated...well everywhere.

The workplace. Inside homes. On the street outside. And everywhere on the internet. You can't escape it. You could go to a sweater knitting forum and find it. It's rampant here at the shroomery and it's to the point where I never want to come back here again, because every time I poke my head in here to escape daily life, guess what, it's more hateful political rhetoric everywhere I look. This place isn't fun anymore. But then again I guess that just mirrors this entire country right now.


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