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Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits
#26982517 - 10/12/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi there,
Is there any one that uses mushrooms while doing there magickal operations? and i mean specifically summoning spirits? if so how much do you ingest and what ingestion method do you use?
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26985123 - 10/14/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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The one of the magics that I have found in mushrooms is mental transmutation. Eat a high dose and reflect on your life and the magic will happen. Allow the trip magic to work through you and go where it needs to go.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Hikeadellic]
#26989007 - 10/16/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you care to elaborate?
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Hikeadellic]
#26989027 - 10/16/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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huh i thought i specifically asked if anyone uses mushrooms for conjuring spirits
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26989205 - 10/16/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Read The Kyballion by the Three Initiates / Hermes Trismagistus for more info on mental transmutation In my experience, its not summoning apparitions/ghosts/demons or whatever. Its a heightened perception. Its recognizing the beautiful spiritual world in which we live in. The spirits or vibes or whatever are already there, we just are not on the same wavelength when sober. One vision I had was of the pattern of a face that covered EVERYTHING. All the trees, all the ground, even on the inside of a rock after breaking it open, every surface. I think that may have been God. Another vision was when I looked out onto the mountains in the distance. The hills and valleys became the curves of Mother Nature laying down in a sexual position. I have experienced astral projection/ out of body experiences where I could see the pathways and energy that cover the Earth. I love tree work / splitting fire wood. I always have had weird feelings about pieces of wood that are "Y" shaped. On one trip, I experienced seeing three negative energy witches holding up "Y" shaped wands / divining rods. Scared the shit out of me. One day while walking out of the woods after a trip I found a weird looking bone that I believe was an animal vertebrae, maybe a deer but I'm not sure. Anyway, I took it back home and placed it in a specific place in my back yard where it would be stable and well seen as a decoration. The bone then disappeared and reappeared on the same spot several times, it is currently missing.
The point I am trying to make is that there really is no need to try to summon anything. I believe that any entity you want/need to be seeing is already there, present somewhere in your life. As mortals, we just need to take nature's medicine and allow the experience to take us where we need to go.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Hikeadellic]
#26989213 - 10/16/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i know the book the Kyballion. "the mind as well as elements can be transmutated. from state to state vibration to vibration, pole to pole degree to degree"
as for i don't need to try to summon anything because any entity is already there. hmmm uhm okay so... how many books did you read about summoning spirits and how many magickal operations did you do?...exactly i thought so
i guess this forum is not the right place to ask questions about evoking spirits. because nobody here is in to that. thanks for your responses though
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26989425 - 10/17/20 01:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can't say that i have in any sort of formal way. I just make sure to take a sufficient dose and then i am able to communicate with something. Can't say what it is but it's there for sure.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26989429 - 10/17/20 01:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah i totaly know what you talking about. but when it comes to magickal operations. i have noticed that a higher dose not neccesarly means a successful operation. if i take 1.5gr i have more control during the ritual than when i take 5gr.
the purpose is to have communication while also remaining in control of the ritual.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26989490 - 10/17/20 02:35 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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My only operation as you put it to make contact. Are you attempting to conjure specific entities? what exactly are you doing here?
i don't believe in this sort of thing but i'm curious to know your rituals.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26989505 - 10/17/20 02:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes i am conjuring specific spirits. currently i am only working with Goetic Demons. aswell as the Demon Pazuzu. and one spirit that i have seen and have a very good relationship with a spirit that i saw awile under the influence of DMT and four Egyptian Gods.
Basicly i open the ritual with the LBRP Lesser bashing ritual of the pentagram. than i do the raising qliphotic energy ritual. than i summon multiple spirits to attend the ritual to provide magickal power, give protection against imposters or hostile spirits. than i will ask those spirits to clean the room of negative energy, astral parasites, imposter spirits and other negative spiritual forces and i wait 11 seconds and than i will ask if those spirits can clean my body, mental, emotional astral, etheric, charkas, auras and meridians of blockages, obstacles, astral parasites, negative energy and other negative spiritual forces when i ask that i will feel a shift in my energetic body and energy starts to flow freely than i summon various demons depending on the task needed to be done. example to causes things to happen.
than i dismiss those demons or spirits that i summoned. than i ask the spirits that attending the ritual to clean the ritual room and to clean my being from energies or astral parasites that might have come while doing the ritual. than i thank those spirits and close the ritual and do the LBRP again. than i clean up my ritual tools
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26990460 - 10/17/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok, but to what end?
You mentioned summoning demons for tasks, what sort of specific things are you using this for? I guess i would have to go read up about goetic demons and pazuzu.
Are you able to discern any effects, positive or negative?
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26990659 - 10/17/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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What kind of tasks? it depends on the situation. i will do rituals for almost everything i feel i need a extra push.
effects? we call it results but anyway. sure i saw results of the work. monetary gains, healing of other people, changed other people behaviour. for example i knew a person from a other country he said that on his job is boss was acting mad all the time. and it became increasingly worse. so of course he feared for his job as his boss was shouting at him every time his boss saw him. so i said to my friend give his picture. so i did a ritual summoned a few demons that i know can change people's mind. i visualized my friend face and visualized his boss face. asked the demons to cause that his boss behave nice to him and had nice feeling about him. 1.5 week later my friend text me that his boss was acting very differently. he even came to him and was asking how he was doing. one time even his boss graped his hand and said you are like a son to me. i find that the most powerful results of all of my magickal operations. because i never met either one of them. all my other rituals. you can do mental gymnastics and say yes...but.. uhm..yeah...no... but this one i did not have personal influence over.
about the word Demons though most Goetic Demons are acient Gods from other cultures. so my God could be your Demon. these are not the Hollywood sell your soul type of Demons. If you want to know more just PM me and i can send links to 125 ebooks and 40+ hours of video about magick
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26990668 - 10/17/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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that really doesn't sound...well sound. How do you know you had an actual influence on the situation?
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26990669 - 10/17/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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why does that not sound well?
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26990701 - 10/17/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, i mean it's not sound.
I don't see how you can consume mushrooms (or anything) and have such an influence. You would have to demonstrate some sort of concrete evidence about the situation otherwise its just rumor. But i'm not very much into that sort of thing. Nor am i going to believe easily. I'm just curious about the whole thing.
Could these rituals not be performed while on another substance or while sober? If the psychedelic is required then it might be all that is required.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26990712 - 10/17/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I believe it because I've done similar things many times while tripping. But IME it's just tapping spiritual energy to do difficult work in an easier way and doesn't require elaborate anything, just simple low level ritual.
You get in touch, make your intention clear, and ask for their help. Easy peasy.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26990716 - 10/17/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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IMO the ritual is the simple act of consumption.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26990719 - 10/17/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i don't take mushrooms to have influence. i take syrian rue/peganum harmala a low dose of mushrooms to open up my etheric/energy body to feel the presence of those spirits. the influence comes from the ritual don't get it twisted.
i don't need to provide evidence. because i don't get any benefit if you believe me or not. you asked what i was doing and i responded to your questions. look i know people like you. you already stated at the beginning you don't believe in this kind of things. so i already know what your mindset is. i could make a car appear from out of nothing and still you would find excuses.
it is simple you want evidence study magick. learn to do rituals. go in to the ritual with a OPEN mindset and write down your results. and go from there. if you need information about rituals or magick PM me. other than that i can NOT say anything to let you believe me. and you already know that your self. for real what could i say to you so you going to believe me?...exactly nothing
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26990727 - 10/17/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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the question is with what forces you get in touch. as every spirit or types of spirit got different skill sets. the elaborate rituals are done for providing protection as well as to guide the contact to specific entities.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26990739 - 10/17/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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no not necessarily. the act of consumption is to facilitate the opening of doorways to be able communicate. but it's not the ritual it self. you can see it as the consumption is the phone. but the ritual is the act of choosing who to call. the act of pressing the numbers to dail. the actual conversation while calling. ect...
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26990798 - 10/17/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Isn't this what Maria Sabina was doing with the mushrooms with the intent of healing people. The rituals she did were quite involved and had nearly a week of preparation. I don't know much about the topic of spirits and ritual. However, I assume ritual must have been very important beyond just ingesting the mushrooms. A lot of people take mushrooms, but I don't often hear about them coming back with information that could be used to heal someone. The analogy of the phone seems like a good one.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26990946 - 10/18/20 02:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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It seems useful...making matter appear would be worthwhile as well. You're making a claim, i'm just asking for something of substance and your story cannot be verified even by you. How could you discern you are having an influence?
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26991003 - 10/18/20 05:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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the person feared that he might lose is job. because his boss was behaving very aggressive for weeks. since this episode the person slept really bad. than 2 weeks after the ritual the person texted me about how his boss attitude was changed. he was really thankful. if it did not worked. the person would not go out of his way to tell me that.
another example i got money refunded from a online store. but the money was floating between the online store and my bank. i did a ritual. asked for a shift action. and next day the money was in my account.
i can go on and on about results. but end of story is this. magick is subjective and with every result that i had, you can argue about possibilities of occurrence due to other influences.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26991327 - 10/18/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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when you are superstitious, you may be inclined to believe a lot of goofy things.
I would suggest that those who seek power from another realm, invoking spirits or angels are working proxy magic at the best, basically reorienting their own interests towards their goals by proxy - this is also known as Affirmation when no proxy (external spirit version) is involved, another term is self hypnosis.
Affirmation is known to be potentially beneficial, while the belief in dark magic is not known to be beneficial, and it is often fundamentally antisocial.
My brother has a thing about angels, and though he is a crackpot, I love him dearly. LosTresOjos is being generous here. I am just saying what I think.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: redgreenvines]
#26991395 - 10/18/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can fly through walls and summon naked ladies in my lucid dreams like as if I had temporary magical powers. (Which is sort of Ike what RGV is describing above).
So you may be able to tickle the right dendrites into pleasing you while the act of pleasure is accompanied via an apparition like hallucinatory naked lady (while tripping in the sweet spot) Regardless of beliefs or rituals, though those sometimes can help or hinder.
Don’t try flying through walls while tripping though....please don’t...no matter the ritual or dose.
There’s an important difference to be noted between the two!
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26991526 - 10/18/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
josbos said: i could make a car appear from out of nothing

Just kidding. 
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26992233 - 10/19/20 02:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
#26992234 - 10/19/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes or atleast seeing them in the minds eye.
i know there are techniques for evoking these spirits to physical appearance. so physical that you can shake hands.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26992235 - 10/19/20 02:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't take my words out of context. for the purpose of making me look like a fool.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26992237 - 10/19/20 03:05 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
#26992238 - 10/19/20 03:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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uhm... Mr Dude please look to who i adressed that reply. thank you
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
#26992240 - 10/19/20 03:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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check leave your body in 3 days a michael raduga seminar. and watch all 3 parts. to learn how to have consistent lucid dreams or astral travel
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: redgreenvines]
#26992242 - 10/19/20 03:13 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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😪 ZZZzzzz
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
#26992245 - 10/19/20 03:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok my apologies that i missgender you. LoL
Anyway becomealivinggod forum is a great place to get answers about seeing entities and such.
those spirits that you see. are they made of colours what you can see where on earth? or are they made out of shinning energetic light?
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26992269 - 10/19/20 04:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
#26992276 - 10/19/20 04:36 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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you should open a free account on becomealivinggod forum and post a question there. i can not really say much about this. if you fine with what you see great. if you want to see less. than you should try to close of your third eye. idk how. many at the forum peeps know.
i heard about a device that causes the third eye to open. i also heard it can close the third eye. try to reach out to god helmet.com
the owner is a neuroscientist. and he made the device. shiva system. shakti system. i heard jeff harvey talking about the shakti system for the purpose of closing the third eye. i will try to find a link to the radio show
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26992287 - 10/19/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fairly certain psychs cause a disturbance in what's often referred to as the etheric/astral bodies, and thus in theory COULD make one susceptible to trickster spirits.
I've seen things on moderate doses, but I've never felt out of control or vulnerable to those things.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26992324 - 10/19/20 05:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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so this nonsensical thread is about promoting your other site, which may be a pay site, where you accept cash to tell people bullshit about their visions.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: redgreenvines]
#26992332 - 10/19/20 05:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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fuck is your problem p.o.s.
1. its NOT my site.
2. its a FREE site with FREE accounts.
3. I do NOT promote anything. i simple advised the young lady to go to that site. because the people on that forum. can help her further. because what she i experiencing is related with psychic senses.
4. I do NOT collect cash form this FREE site.
now hiss off
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
#26992344 - 10/19/20 05:59 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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LoL that fool cleary don't know what he is talking about. just a cynical prick nothing more. because the BS what he is saying. causes you to be brainwashed with his nonsense. thinking that you need to pay for a forum! lmaoooo
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: redgreenvines]
#26992364 - 10/19/20 06:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: so this nonsensical thread is about promoting your other site, which may be a pay site, where you accept cash to tell people bullshit about their visions.
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you are so F stupid. if she want to open a thread on that forum. than she needs to have a FREE account. F are you thinking? you can go to any random forum and start posting things. GTFO P.O.S
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26992370 - 10/19/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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be kind and honest
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Ferdinando]
#26992382 - 10/19/20 06:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am kind dear brother. i said those things for his own benefit
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26992412 - 10/19/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: redgreenvines]
#26992419 - 10/19/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah bro sure. no problem
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26992429 - 10/19/20 07:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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that's the spirit.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: redgreenvines]
#26992430 - 10/19/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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you already know bro
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
#26992485 - 10/19/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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that's nice to hear, thanks for the feedback. Remember to checkout that fprum. just go to the search and type psychic senses or astral senses. or make a free account to post questions about what you experiencing the couple of month's. if you want more information or tips. i think there are also people there that know much about lucid dreaming.
maybe there is also a sub reddit about lucid dreaming. you can also check for specific lucid dreaming forums.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26992645 - 10/19/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know you are a charlatan, posturing as an entity specialist, that's for sure.
you just don't want the heat from seasoned psychonauts.
let us parse "becomealivinggod" become, means you are not already, a living god, suggests that you will have divine powers and respect from others, which you do not have now.
is that right? power and respect from others, which you do not have now - sounds like a product pitch.
anyway, the art of dream interpretation is a wonderful thing to explore, and that applies to learning from your trips and visions as well - best not to lock it down in dark age superstition or look for meaning in the results of arcane practices designed to exclude the discerning mind.
find out what you already are. mushrooms are great for that. if you experience beings while dreaming or tripping - be a respectful host/guest. keep it simple.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: redgreenvines]
#26992702 - 10/19/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dear mr. P.O.S,
Why the fuck are you constantly sucking energy. i already told you to hiss off. begone
charlatan?¿ i already told you its not my site. its a forum, just as this is a forum. what part do you not understand?
"Don't want heat from seasoned psychonauts" man please stop that crap. you are not even close to my level.
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#26992785 - 10/19/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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what do you want to achieve here?
this is a forum about psychedelic experience, and many people do have entity experiences of a wide variety. A clear audience of thousands.
you may have something to share, or you may just be introducing yourself, I don't really know, so far, you have not shown an impressive recovery from the slightest critical commentary.
generally defensiveness and chest pounding bodes not too well, for people claiming expertise.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26992829 - 10/19/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26992846 - 10/19/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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josbos said: Dear mr. P.O.S,
Why the fuck are you constantly sucking energy. i already told you to hiss off. begone
charlatan?¿ i already told you its not my site. its a forum, just as this is a forum. what part do you not understand?
"Don't want heat from seasoned psychonauts" man please stop that crap. you are not even close to my level.
I also think you are a charlatan just by looking how you express yourself.. You are so disrespectful. I hope you get banned.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: ADCC420]
#26992902 - 10/19/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: ADCC420]
#26992982 - 10/19/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well i dont give a rat about your opinion me. Second you can cleary see that this person started attacking me for no reason.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: redgreenvines]
#26992992 - 10/19/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i never claimed to have expertise. read my comments again. i just referred to a forum where people talk about magick related topics. such as astral/psychic senses. and i know for a fact that those people can help her or could share experiences. so i don't get to reasoning for attacking me constantly. just begone
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
#26993008 - 10/19/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah that's why i say go to a forum or sub reddit about lucid dreaming or astral projection. because those sites are interactive. and people can give you pdf's/guide to more indept information, give tips ect... you dont have those benefits by watching a seminar. maybe there is a forum that the speaker has created. i know he was a youtube channel. so there should be a forum.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26993025 - 10/19/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26993056 - 10/19/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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there is a spirituality subforum here, and you could get more traction for this genre of posting in that subforum.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/82
enjoy, and be not so defensive.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
#26993059 - 10/19/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes sure, remember to set your 6 hour alarm. and when you wake up. stand and walking around for a little bit. and go back to sleep. safe journey
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: redgreenvines]
#26993061 - 10/19/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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thanks bro, you are the best!
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26993254 - 10/19/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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josbos said: Don't take my words out of context. for the purpose of making me look like a fool.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26993269 - 10/19/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i don't see a spoiler, and it was not a nasty reply. you took my words out of there intended context just to be funny. and i don't like that
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26993276 - 10/19/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Man, what is wrong with you? The spoiler (black box) says it's just a joke.
'Cause if you could make a car appear out of nothing that would be seriously useful - like Elon Musk would like to talk to you about setting up a factory somewhere.
And people would likely pay more attention to that than to vague claims about intercessory spiritual work, which is easy to do with mushrooms and doesn't require 150 ebooks or videos to learn how to do it.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26993282 - 10/19/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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the black box is just black no word joke is to been seen.
i never said that those 125 ebooks and videos are about learning how to transmute internal energy. see thats what i am saying, you keep twisting my words. those ebooks and videos are about a LOT of different topics related to magick
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26993292 - 10/19/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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put your cursor on top of it and it says this

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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26993298 - 10/19/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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ohh ok i see, well i don't have a cursor because i use my phone. but i will keep it in mind for the next time.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26993911 - 10/20/20 03:09 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26993912 - 10/20/20 03:12 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
#26993913 - 10/20/20 03:17 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i could be wrong, but i don't think its good to wake up 10 time when you sleeping. as you have learned from the seminar. your body got a sleep cycle. deep sleep REM sleep ect.. if you are woken up during sleep you might interrupted your sleep cycle. it could be a cause for your 1 2 sec journey. do you meditate? there are also herbs that can cause lucid dreams.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26993916 - 10/20/20 03:24 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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VK Jehannum had a rite. if you do that it can cause lucid dreams. google demonic initiation vk jehannum. go to that page. read everything and click on every sub link on that page. and do the work. when i did that. a few days latter i was dreaming and in my dream i made fire in my hands without tools. just pure will power. also i had a dream where by i felt a vribration in my chest (heart center) the seminar talks about vribration in the heart center when you close to the phase. i also was suddenly in my room. i might had a OBE. i will send you some links via PM
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26993924 - 10/20/20 03:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
#26993926 - 10/20/20 03:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah that's why meditation is handy both for the excitement and the direct method
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
#26994659 - 10/20/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, charlatan might be too strong of a word. Either way, i'm now even more skeptical about this whole thing especially that i have read your behavior towards other people when they have genuine concerns for what you are trying to push.
You make a claim about influencing someones thought patterns, emotions, etc. The evidence for you is simple: through a 3rd party, not even second hand, you confirm your bias. Shouldn't you attempt to speak to this Boss individual? The confirmation bias is off the charts with your example. It reeks of fish. If you think you can do this to the extent you say then that's fine. But you gotta have something of substance or else you will get similar reactions, unless you would like to stick to your echo-chambers.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26994805 - 10/20/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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you are nobody to me. so i don't give a fuck if you believe me or not. let that be clear to you
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26994984 - 10/20/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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That is obvious. And works both ways.
You are making claims but not willing to have a critical look at them.
Assertions don't fly around these parts to well.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26994990 - 10/20/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you only knew
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26995163 - 10/20/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Assertions.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26995248 - 10/20/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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See through.
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26995319 - 10/20/20 08:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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the chronically sceptical critics. it is laughable
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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
#26995676 - 10/21/20 03:15 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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