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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
    #26990798 - 10/17/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Isn't this what Maria Sabina was doing with the mushrooms with the intent of healing people. The rituals she did were quite involved and had nearly a week of preparation. I don't know much about the topic of spirits and ritual. However, I assume ritual must have been very important beyond just ingesting the mushrooms. A lot of people take mushrooms, but I don't often hear about them coming back with information that could be used to heal someone. The analogy of the phone seems like a good one.


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
    #26990946 - 10/18/20 02:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It seems useful...making matter appear would be worthwhile as well.
You're making a claim, i'm just asking for something of substance and your story cannot be verified even by you.
How could you discern you are having an influence?


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26991003 - 10/18/20 05:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

the person feared that he might lose is job. because his boss was behaving very aggressive for weeks. since this episode the person slept really bad. than 2 weeks after the ritual the person texted me about how his boss attitude was changed. he was really thankful. if it did not worked. the person would not go out of his way to tell me that.

another example i got money refunded from a online store. but the money was floating between the online store and my bank. i did a ritual. asked for a shift action. and next day the money was in my account.

i can go on and on about results. but end of story is this. magick is subjective and with every result that i had, you can argue about possibilities of occurrence due to other influences.


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
    #26991327 - 10/18/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

when you are superstitious, you may be inclined to believe a lot of goofy things.

I would suggest that those who seek power from another realm, invoking spirits or angels are working proxy magic at the best, basically reorienting their own interests towards their goals by proxy - this is also known as Affirmation when no proxy (external spirit version) is involved, another term is self hypnosis.

Affirmation is known to be potentially beneficial, while the belief in dark magic is not known to be beneficial, and it is often fundamentally antisocial.

My brother has a thing about angels, and though he is a crackpot, I love him dearly. LosTresOjos is being generous here. I am just saying what I think.


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26991395 - 10/18/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I can fly through walls and summon naked ladies in my lucid dreams like as if I had temporary magical powers.  (Which is sort of
Ike what RGV is describing above).

So you may be able to tickle the right dendrites into pleasing you while the act of pleasure is accompanied via an apparition like hallucinatory naked lady  :naughty:  (while tripping in the sweet spot)  Regardless of beliefs or rituals, though those sometimes can help or hinder.

Don’t try flying through walls while tripping though....please don’t...no matter the ritual or dose.

There’s an important difference to be noted between the two!

Forgive my discombobulated incoherent post!  The APE’s are swinging in my brain forest.


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
    #26991526 - 10/18/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

josbos said:
i could make a car appear from out of nothing




:goodluckwiththat2:

Just kidding. :laugh2:


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
    #26992233 - 10/19/20 02:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
    #26992234 - 10/19/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

yes or atleast seeing them in the minds eye.

i know there are techniques for evoking these spirits to physical appearance. so physical that you can shake hands.


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26992235 - 10/19/20 02:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Don't take my words out of context. for the purpose of making me look like a fool.


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
    #26992237 - 10/19/20 03:05 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
    #26992238 - 10/19/20 03:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

uhm... Mr Dude please look to who i adressed that reply. thank you


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
    #26992240 - 10/19/20 03:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

check leave your body in 3 days a michael raduga seminar. and watch all 3 parts. to learn how to have consistent lucid dreams or astral travel


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26992242 - 10/19/20 03:13 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

😪 ZZZzzzz


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
    #26992243 - 10/19/20 03:15 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
    #26992245 - 10/19/20 03:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

ok my apologies that i missgender you. LoL

Anyway becomealivinggod forum is a great place to get answers about seeing entities and such.

those spirits that you see. are they made of colours what you can see where on earth? or are they made out of shinning energetic light?


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
    #26992269 - 10/19/20 04:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: Vylie]
    #26992276 - 10/19/20 04:36 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

you should open a free account on becomealivinggod forum and post a question there. i can not really say much about this. if you fine with what you see great. if you want to see less. than you should try to close of your third eye.  idk how. many at the forum peeps know.

i heard about a device that causes the third eye to open. i also heard it can close the third eye.  try to reach out to god helmet.com

the owner is a neuroscientist. and he made the device. shiva system. shakti system. i heard jeff harvey talking about the shakti system for the purpose of closing the third eye. i will try to find a link to the radio show


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
    #26992287 - 10/19/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Fairly certain psychs cause a disturbance in what's often referred to as the etheric/astral bodies, and thus in theory COULD make one susceptible to trickster spirits.

I've seen things on moderate doses, but I've never felt out of control or vulnerable to those things.


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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
    #26992297 - 10/19/20 05:06 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Mushrooms and Evoking/summoning spirits [Re: josbos]
    #26992324 - 10/19/20 05:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

so this nonsensical thread is about promoting your other site, which may be a pay site, where you accept cash to tell people bullshit about their visions.


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